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C M Y K mauka areSiZe: #37 (221) 29.VIII-4.IX.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari `saakaSvili da misi xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebis muqa- rebs bolo ar uCans. xmamaRla bedaven imis Tqmas, rom me qarTu- li saxelmwifos mteri var da ruseTis samsaxurSi vdgavar. es utifari tyuilia, romelic erTaderT mizans emsaxureba: xalxs Cemi ndoba daakargvinos da qveynis mtrad gamomacxdon. aqamde mecineboda maT tyuilebze, magram axla ukve Cvens mravalricxovan mxardamWerebsac moRalateobas abraleben da amiT saSinel Seuracxyofas ayeneben. naTlad vxedav saakaSvilis borot ganzraxvas - Tavisi Zala- uflebis SesanarCuneblad mzad aris, adamianebi samkvdro-sa- sicocxlod gadahkidos erTmaneTs.~ ` ` r r a a W W a a , , l l e e C C x x u u m m i i , , q q v v e e m m o o s s v v a a n n e e T T i i s s a a q q a a r r T T v v e e l l o o s s k k u u T T x x e e e e b b i i a a , , m m a a g g r r a a m m g g u u l l i i d d a a S S u u a a g g u u l l i i a a y y v v e e l l g g a a n n , , s s a a d d a a c c s s a a q q a a r r T T v v e e l l o o a a ~ ~ biZina ivaniSvili: rogor SeiZleba Tamaz TamazaSvils kriminalebTan kavSiri daabralon, roca misi likvidaciisTvis `mxedrions~ da kriminalur samyaros fuladi jildo hqondaT dawesebuli SurisZieba nacionalurad kaxelebo, Tqven xom ar gamoSluvdiT, Sah abass kaxeTSi Tqveni xeliT rom udgamT taxts? xelisufleba iqamde mivida, rom gardabanSi soflis mRvdlebsac ki daeria giorgi naWyebia: gagecinebaT, magram dRes iseT situaciaSi var, rogorc Tavis droze utu miqava iyo... guguli maRraZe: saakaSvilma Tqva _ amaT surT arCevnebSi `SemiTriono~... `SeviTrevT~ da movugebT kidec! koba kapanaZe: kargad daimaxsovros saakaSvilis garemocvam: roca faraons marxaven, msaxurebsac Tan Caayoleben xolme... jemal davlianiZe: samegrelos Tavisufleba eocnebeba

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Page 1: giorgi naWyebia: jemal davlianiZe: SurisZieba nacionalurad ... · mivida, rom gardabanSi soflis mRvdlebsac ki daeria giorgi naWyebia: gagecinebaT, magram dRes iseT situaciaSi var,

C M Y K

mauka areSiZe:

#37 (221) 29.VIII-4.IX.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari

`saakaSvili da misi xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebis muqa-

rebs bolo ar uCans. xmamaRla bedaven imis Tqmas, rom me qarTu-

li saxelmwifos mteri var da ruseTis samsaxurSi vdgavar.

es utifari tyuilia, romelic erTaderT mizans emsaxureba:

xalxs Cemi ndoba daakargvinos da qveynis mtrad gamomacxdon.

aqamde mecineboda maT tyuilebze, magram axla ukve Cvens

mravalricxovan mxardamWerebsac moRalateobas abraleben da

amiT saSinel Seuracxyofas ayeneben.

naTlad vxedav saakaSvilis borot ganzraxvas - Tavisi Zala-

uflebis SesanarCuneblad mzad aris, adamianebi samkvdro-sa-

sicocxlod gadahkidos erTmaneTs.~

`̀̀̀rrrraaaaWWWWaaaa,,,, lllleeeeCCCCxxxxuuuummmmiiii,,,, qqqqvvvveeeemmmmoooo ssssvvvvaaaannnneeeeTTTTiiii ssssaaaaqqqqaaaarrrrTTTTvvvveeeelllloooossss kkkkuuuuTTTTxxxxeeeeeeeebbbbiiiiaaaa,,,, mmmmaaaaggggrrrraaaammmm gggguuuulllliiii ddddaaaa SSSSuuuuaaaagggguuuulllliiiiaaaa yyyyvvvveeeellllggggaaaannnn,,,, ssssaaaaddddaaaacccc ssssaaaaqqqqaaaarrrrTTTTvvvveeeellllooooaaaa~~~~

biZina ivaniSvili:

rogor SeiZleba Tamaz

TamazaSvils kriminalebTan

kavSiri daabralon, roca misi

likvidaciisTvis `mxedrions~

da kriminalur samyaros fuladi

jildo hqondaT dawesebuli

SurisZieba nacionalurad

kaxelebo, Tqven xomar gamoSluvdiT, Sah abass kaxeTSiTqveni xeliT rom

udgamT taxts?

xelisufleba iqamde

mivida, rom

gardabanSi soflis

mRvdlebsac ki daeria

giorgi naWyebia:

gagecinebaT, magramdRes iseT situaciaSi

var, rogorc Tavisdroze utu miqava iyo...

guguli maRraZe:saakaSvilma Tqva _

amaT surT arCevnebSi

`SemiTriono~...

`SeviTrevT~ da

movugebT kidec!

koba kapanaZe:

kargad daimaxsovrossaakaSvilis garemocvam: roca faraons marxaven,

msaxurebsac Tan Caayoleben xolme...

jemal davlianiZe:

samegrelos

Tavisufleba

eocnebeba

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saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.2

gazeTi xxelmZRvanelobs TTavisufali ppresis pprincipiT.SesaZloa, aavtoris ppozicia aar eeTanxmebodes rredaqciis aazrs.informaciis ssizusteze ppasuxismgebelia aavtori. ggasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia mmasalis ggamoqveynebidan eerTi kkviris vvadaSi.

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_ qudze kaci! mteri

mogvdgomia kars! _ ase mi-

marTavdnen Znelbedobis Ja-

ms qarTveli mefeebi qarT-

velebs.

_ qudze kaci! mteri

mogvdgomia saarCevno ubneb-

Tan! _ ase mimarTavs mixeil

saakaSvili saqarTvelos

mosaxleobas da ZalTa mo-

bilizebisken da sruli sab-

rZolo mzadyofnisken mou-

wodebs.

_ ise magrad unda dava-

marcxoT es mteri, ise mag-

rad, rom es iyos misi uka-

naskneli gafarTxaleba! _

xmaliviT iqnevs marjvenas

prezidenti saakaSvili.

ara, ar aris es prezi-

denti, es kaci mefea, oRond

ugvirgvino mefe.

amboben, meufe kalist-

rate saRoriis tyeSi gan-

Tavsebul saidumlo samWed-

loSi mefe mixeilisTvis

gvirgvins aWedinebs mWed-

lebso.

gvirgvini 1 oqtombris-

Tvis iqneba mzad da quTa-

isSi, parlamentis pirvel

sxdomaze, meufe kalist-

rate sakuTari xeliT da-

adgams Tavze mefe mixeils.

Tumca manamde mTeli er-

Ti Tvea da jer mteria da-

samarcxebeli.

_ qudze kaci! mteri

mogvdgomia saarCevno ub-

nebTan! gadavdivarT Tav-

dacvaze! _ gvrgvinavs mefe

mixeili _ wamoyareT

mkvdrebi saflavebidan da

TxoveT, kidev erTxel

dagvexmaron. marTalia,

xSirad ki vawuxebT, mag-

ram am erTxelac dagvexma-

ron da mere me vici maTi

pativiscema. kacitaZes

uTxariT, rac SeiZleba me-

ti miwerebi, rac SeiZleba

meti ararsebuli pirebi

ararsebul misamarTebze.

daazusteT sazRvargareT

wasulebis sia _ ukleb-

liv yvela emigrants xu-

Tiani `SemoaxazineT~. ne-

bivroben, genacvale, eseni

sazRvargareT, Cven kidev

aq mters vebrZviT. keTili

inebon d aRasrulon am

emigrantebma TavianTi ma-

maSviluri vali. qudze ka-

ci, anu rac SeiZleba meti

yalbi biuleteni saarCev-

no yuTebSi! datrialdiT

axla! _ cecxls yris pi-

ridan mefe da magidaze mi-

mofantul qaRaldebs ia-

takze yris.

meti damajereblobisT-

vis, rom namdvilad mefea,

mefe mixeili dangreul

Zvel cixeebs mecixovne va-

nos xelaxla aSenebinebs da

garedan JangisferiT feravs

_ viTom namdvilad Zveli,

ZvelisZveli cixea da mec

namdvili mefe var _ safe-

odleboebica maqvs, feoda-

lebic myavs, monebic myavs,

haramxanac myavs, kalistra-

te myavs _ mefe var, aba, vin

varo?

mokled rom movWraT,

mefe mixeili feodaluri

xanis mefea da misi cxovre-

bac erTi gabmuli lxini da

nadimi iyo, es Worvileli

feodali rom ar ajanyebo-

da.

ras izam, mZimea qudi mo-

nomaxisa, to est, mefisa.

_ qudze kaci! saarCevno

ubnebs mteri Semoesia! qud-

ze kaci! iSiSvleT yalbi

biuletenebi da daicaviT

mefe mixeil!

_ Tqvens saarCevno kampa-

niaSi cota leninizmi ure-

viao, _ brZana batonma rikar-

dom, euTos asambleis prezi-

dentma.

_ ase da ase iTqva Cvens

saarCevno kampaniaze da Tqven

ra azris brZandebiTo, _

hkiTxa Jurnalistma nika ru-

ruas, kulturis, fizkultu-

ris da kidev sxva kulture-

bis ministrs.

_ ra azris var da sisu-

leleao, _ upasuxa b-n nikam.

_ euTos asambleis prezi-

dentma Tqvao, _ Seapara Jur-

nalistma ministr nikas.

_ ra mniSvneloba aqvs vin

Tqva, sisulele sisulelea,

_ ixtibari ar gaitexa minis-

trma nikam.

bevri rom ar SegawuxoT,

ministri nikas komentaridan

erTaderTi daskvna SegviZlia

gamovitanoT: batoni rikardo

sulelia da sisuleleebs am-

bobs.

arada, es batono rikar-

do, rogorc giTxariT,

euTos asambleis preziden-

tia.

gamodis, rom es euTos

mravalricxovani asambleac

sulelebiT aris gatenili.

aba, Wkvianebi rom iyvnen

sulels prezidentad airCev-

dnen?

ministri nikas komentarma

parlamentari kakos (boboxi-

Zis) komentari gamaxsena,

aSS-s administracias rom

daucacxana _ Tqven xom ar

dagaviwydaT, suverenuli sa-

xelmwifo rom varT, ra ins-

truqciebs da direqtivebs

gvaZlevT, Cven ar viciT ar-

Cevnebi rogor unda Cavata-

roTo?!

bodiSs vixdiT, rom zus-

tad citirebas ver vaxdenT,

Tumca Sinaarsi absolutu-

rad zustia.

ministri nika da parlamen-

tari kako _ ai, ori burji sa-

qarTvelos damoukideblobisa.

es ori burji da erTic

dedaboZi _ Ciora.

dedaboZma Cioram brZana,

batonma rikardom leninizmi

CvenTan, nacionalebTan, da-

kavSirebiT ki ara opozicias-

Tan dakavSirebiT Tqvao...

qalbatono Ciora, Zvirfa-

so dedaboZo, utifroba ki

gamigia, magram aseTi utif-

roba ar msmenia. kidev er-

Txel gavixsenoT, ra Tqva ba-

tonma rikardom.

_ Tqvens saarCevno kampa-

niaSi cota leninizmia... am

qveyanaSi ar arian mtrebi, aq

arian gansxvavebuli azris

adamianebio.

mterze da mtrebze vin

laparakobs dRedaRame, qalba-

tono Ciora, Tqveni beladi

xom ara, romelmac lamisaa

arCevnebi saomar bataliebs ga-

uTanabros, sadac mteri unda

daamarcxo da gaanadguro,

Tumca Tqvengan aravin ufiqr-

deba imas, rom arCevnebSi mxo-

lod da mxolod saqarTvelos

mosaxleoba monawileobs.

e.i. ra gamodis, saqarTve-

los mosaxleobis is nawilia

mteri, romelic `nacmoZrao-

bisTvis~ xmis micemas ar api-

rebs da es mteri unda daa-

marcxoT, anu sakuTari mo-

saxleobisTvis apirebT omis

gamocxadebas?

ufro meti ki araferi

uTqvams amxanag lenins _

klasobrivi mteri unda gava-

nadguroTo, Tqva.

leninia Tqveni beladi sa-

akaSvili, qalbatono Ciora,

simaRleSi dagrZelebuli

lenini, romelic demokrati-

is niRbiT qarTul bolSe-

vizms aSenebs.

qarTuli bolSevizmi _

Tavisi kompartiiT, komkavSi-

riT da pioneriiT ukve saxe-

zea da swored es dainaxa ba-

tonma rikardom.

zrdili kacia batoni ri-

kardo da amitom Tqva, co-

tao, Torem man mSvenivrad

icis, rom mTeli es sistema,

rac nacmoZraobam am rva

wlis ganmavlobaSi moaxla-

forTa, Tavidan bolomde le-

ninuria, romelsac cota

stalinuri da cotac gorba-

Coviseuli aqvs Sereul-Seu-

nelebeli.

_ viRac-viRacebs surT

ukan, warsulSi, ukan, sabWo-

Ta kavSirSi dagvabrunono _

Weqda da quxda amaswinaT am-

xanagi miSa.

sabWoTa kavSirs gansa-

kuTrebiT mis bolo aTweuls

kidev ra uSavs, sabWoTa kav-

SirSi ki ara, kidev ufro

ukan gasuli saukunis 20-30-

ian wlebSi abrunebs saqarT-

velos `nacmoZraoba~ da Tu

vinme amaze xmis amoRebas ga-

bedavs, sulels eZaxis.

esec bolSevikebis sti-

lia, maTi leqsikaa.

saakaSvilma Txara, Txara

da leninizmi gamoTxara.

asvenia axla es daumarxa-

vi lenini `nacmoZraobis~ ka-

rebTan da xan Ciora dahqvi-

Tinebs da xan _ xaTuna...

ar arian `nacelebi~ leni-

nizmis dammarxavni, is qarTvel-

ma xalxma unda miabaros miwas

da erTxel da samudamod iq ga-

istumros, saidanac movida...

qudze kaci! saarCevno ubnebs mteri Semoesia! iSiSvleT yalbi biuletenebi

da daicaviT mefe mixeili!

miSam Txara, Txara, Txarada lenini gamoTxara...

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3#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

Cemo sayvareloxalxo, mogesalmebiT!mogesalmebi Cemo raWav, leCxumo, qvemo svaneTo!mogesalmebi, saqarTvelov!vaxuSti batoniSvili ai, ase

aRwerda raWas: „Sinagan ars raWa,

friad magari mTiTa, kldiTa, xra-

miTa, xeviTa da tyiTa, Seuali ga-

re mtrisagan“.

usmineT, ra sityvebia: „zafxu-

l grili, zamTar Tbili da uqa-

ro, mosavliani, nayofierebs yo-

velni marcvalni, venaxni, xilni“.

ai, ra uboZa ufalma raWas!

raWa, leCxumi, qvemo svaneTi

saqarTvelos kuTxeebia, magram

guli da Suagulia yvelgan, sadac

saqarTveloa.

Turme, xalxo, SeuZlebelia

idge am qveynis miwaze da ar iyo

amave dros mis gulSi. ai, aseTi

qveyanaa Cveni saqarTvelo.

kavkasionis cicabo ferdobeb-

ze cxovrebas saocari simtkice

sWirdeba da arc sakuTari Tva-

luwvdeneli istoriis Rirseu-

lad tarebas unda naklebi amta-

noba.

dausruleblad duxWiri

cxovreba da gaWirvebasTan gaTene-

bidan daRamebamde brZola Zalau-

neburad aviwyebs kacs Tavis namd-

vil, WeSmarit warmomavlobas... es

unda Sewydes, bolo unda moeRos

amgvar yofa-cxovrebas da Wapanwy-

vetas.

raWvelebo, leCxumelebo, sva-

nebo, Tqveni mwvervalebi „qarTu-

li ocnebis“ mwvervalebia, da Cven

erTad davipyrobT maT, sityva mo-

micia!

„qarTuli ocnebisa“ da yvela

Cvenganis mizania, rom Tanabari

yuradRebiT da mTeli Zal-RoniT

vizrunoT saqarTvelos gulze,

yvelgan, sadac is feTqavs.

ase iqneba pirveli oqtombris

arCevnebSi Cveni gamarjvebis da

xelisuflebaSi „qarTuli ocne-

bis“ mosvlis pirvelive dRidan.

me gpirdebiT amas!

gansakuTrebuli sidinje da

Tavdauzogavi Sromis unari gamo-

garCevT Tqven, am kuTxis Svilebs

da esec am mTebSi cxovrebam gas-

wavlaT.

saukuneebma moitana, albaT, es

sidinje da sidarbaisle, samSob-

los dacvis pasuxismgeblobam da

sakuTari miwis siyvarulma da er-

Tgulebam Semogvinaxa raWac,

leCxumic da qvemo svaneTic.

dRes, amden gansacdels gamovlil

kuTxeebs, daclis safrTxe emuq-

reba.

Cven ver veRirseT iseT xeli-

suflebas, romlisTvisac Tavisi

qveynis movla-patronoba da Tavis

xalxze fiqri mTavari sazrunavi

iqneboda.

kavkasionis samxreT ferdobze

gadaSlil raWas, leCxumsa da

qvemo svaneTs bunebisgan uamravi

simdidre ergo. am mxareSi TiTq-

mis ar aris sofeli, sakuTari

Zvirfasi bunebrivi resursi rom

ar hqondes.

Tumca, yvelam kargad icis,

rogori movla-patronoba sWirde-

ba yvela aseT simdidres. nebismi-

eri qveyana, romelic aseTi re-

sursis patronia, mixedavda, gamo-

iyenebda da, sul cota, mSieri da

dausaxlebeli mainc ar eyolebo-

da mosaxleoba.

albaT, arsad sxvagan ar iRv-

reba ase umowyalod sasmeli wya-

li, rogorc CvenSi, maSin roca

Cvens mosaxleobas uwyloba stan-

javs, aRarafers vambob, minerale-

biT gajerebul samkurnalo mJave

wylebze, romelic ase uxvadaa

Cvens qveyanaSi da mimxedavi aravin

hyavs.

arsad sxvagan ar iCexeba ase

daundoblad tye, rogorc CvenSi,

nadgurdeba unikaluri buneba, ra-

sac ekologiuri katastrofebi

mosdevs Tan.

glexs tye waarTves, xalxo!

saqarTvelos tyeebis udidesi na-

wili xelisuflebis neba-survi-

liT erTi jgufis xelSia moqce-

uli. yvelaze didi simdidriT -

tyis resursiT veRar sargeblobs

adgilobrivi mosaxleoba.

aq, raWaSi, iSviaTi soWi izr-

deba, Cvenia, endemuri jiSia, ula-

mazesi vercxlisferi wiwvebiT. am

soWiT karga xania evropelebic

dainteresdnen da ukve ramdenime

welia, rac gaaqvT qveynidan.

magram visgan yiduloben am

soWs, vinaa axla tyis mepatrone?

ra Tqma unda, aq damswreTagan

aravin iqneba...

roca aseTi simdidrea sofel

TluRSi, ratom unda hqondes am

mcxovreb glexs lukma-puris ga-

saWiri?! monopolistebs aqvT

xelSi Cagdebuli da imitom, aba,

adgilobrivs da glexs vin gaaka-

rebs mag saqmes?! Cveni mosaxleo-

ba mxolod mojamagired sWirde-

baT! ramdeni adamianis janmrTe-

loba da sicocxle Seewira soWis

Teslis mopovebas, vin mosTvlis.

am qveynis dardi rom ara aqvs

am xelisuflebas da piradi ke-

TildReobisTvis rom zrunavs

mxolod, imiTac kargad Cans, rom

1 kilo soWis Teslidan biujets

6 lari Sesdis, maSin roca evro-

paSi saSualod 100 dolarad iyi-

deba.

an kidev, ra gvWirs aseTi,

xalxo, rom unikaluri jiSis

yurZeni - aleqsandrouli da mu-

jureTuli gqondes, saqveynod

aRiarebul xvanWkaras ayenebde da

mainc araferi etyobodes am

xalxs, mainc siduxWireSi

cxovrobdes.

ratomaa, rom 2001 wels

1 kilogram yurZens ufro

Zvirad ibarebda saxelmwi-

fo, vidre axla.

an ratom gaauqmes kano-

ni, romelic aseT Rvinos

gayalbebisgan icavda imiT,

rom Rvinis damzadeba mxo-

lod adgilze iyo SesaZle-

beli. amiT xvanWkarisa da

sxva Zvirfasi Rvinoebis fa-

lsifikaciis safrTxe xom

axlandelTan SedarebiT mn-

iSvnelovad iyo Semcirebu-

li.

2008 wels am xelisuf-

lebam amoiRo es norma da

axla xvanWkaras Tu ginda

aq, raWaSi, Camoasxam da Tu

ginda, msoflios nebismier

kuTxeSi - kaci ar aris gam-

kiTxavi.

xelisufleba am kuTxe-

Sic apirebs giganturi hese-

bis mSeneblobas da es ga-

dawyvetilebac iseve naCqa-

revad da naucbaTevad aqvs

miRebuli, rogorc saerTod

sCvevia.

hesebis mSeneblobis wi-

naaRmdegi aravinaa, magram es

Tqven, specialistebTan erTad un-

da gadawyvitoT, mcire hesebis

mSenebloba ufro waadgeba am

kuTxes da mTlianad Cvens qveya-

nas, Tu giganturi hesebis, rom-

lebsac uamravi problema sdevs

Tan, iqneba es ekologiuri Tu

migraciuli.

erT dros sofeli uravi, lu-

xumis xeobaSi, dariSxanis mompo-

vebeli iyo da dedamiwis erTi me-

eqvsedis - maSindeli sabWoTa kav-

Siris - mZime mrewvelobas amara-

gebda. axla sabado mitovebulia,

dariSxanis sacavi dazianebulia,

rac safrTxes uqmnis bunebas da,

rac mTavaria, adamianis janmrTe-

lobasa da sicocxles.

kidev ufro uaresadaa saqme

lentexSi, sofel canaSi, sadac

dariSxanis sabados mxolod mav-

TulxlarTebi icavs. amitom xal-

xi iwamleba da dRiTidRe matu-

lobs onkologiur daavadebaTa

ricxvi.

imdeni problema CamovTavle,

kaci ikiTxavs, araferi gaukeTe-

bia, aba, am xelisuflebaso?!

diax, am xelisuflebam gaakeTa

is, rom gauTvleli da ugunuri

gadawyvetilebebis Sedegad axla

mamisonis uReltexils rusebi

akontroleben. mamisonze, saqarT-

velos meteorologiur sadgurze,

axla ukve rusuli saguSagoa gax-

snili.

Cveni mesazRvreebi iZulebuli

gaxdnen daetovebinaT mamisonis

uReltexilis sakontrolo punq-

ti da qveynis siRrmeSi 20 kilo-

metriT ukan daexiaT, Tumca amas

utifrad uaryofs es xelisufle-

ba.

ase Caabara saakaSvilma kavka-

sionis sazRvari... ase flangavs

saqarTvelos!

rac sxvam, ucxom ver dagvak-

lo, am xelisuflebam Tavisi ugu-

nuri politikiT moaxerxa. mas

yvela Rone unda exmara sakuTari

mosaxleobis adgilze damagrebi-

saTvis, cxovrebis normaluri pi-

robebis SeqmnisaTvis, rom amiT

mainc SeeCerebina saukuneebis gan-

mavlobaSi bunebrivi mesazRvree-

bisgan - am kuTxis mkvidrebisgan

am miwebis dacla.

raWa-leCxum-qvemo svaneTSi

oficialurad amJamad 47 aTasi

adamiania daregistrirebuli, rac

2002 welTan SedarebiT 4 aTasi

adamianiT naklebia.

„vardebis revoluciis“ Sem-

deg ufro metma adamianma datova

mTa da qveyana. iseTi pirobebia

Seqmnili, rom adamianebs am

miwieri samoTxidan wasvla

uwevT.

umuSevroba Cveni xal-

xis erT-erTi mTavari prob-

lemaa. am xelisuflebam ara

Tu ar aRmofxvra umuSev-

roba, rogorc gvpirdeboda,

aramed am mxriv viTareba ki-

dev ufro damZimda. da es

gansakuTrebiT maRalmTian

regionebSi igrZnoba.

ganaxevrebulia skole-

bis raodenoba. bavSvi aRar

darCa soflebSi. arada, bav-

Svi xom sicocxlea, sofli-

sac da mTeli qveynisac.

saxelmwifoebrivad mo-

azrovne xelisufleba im

udides potencials gamoi-

yenebda, riTac ase cnobilia

raWa. es misi unikaluri

kurortebia. nebismier civi-

lizebul qveyanaSi aseTi

regioni namdvilad welga-

marTuli iqneboda.

raWis turistuli po-

tenciali nawilobrivadac

ar aris gamoyenebuli. xe-

lisuflebis dapireba, rom

Saori da Sovi turistuli

centri gaxdeboda, rogorc

yvela sxva SemTxvevaSi,

mxolod dapirebad darCa.

raWaSi miwisZvram daangria

ara erTi saxli. amdeni weli ga-

vida da stiqiiT dazaralebuli

xalxi axlac elodeba saxelmwi-

fosgan daxmarebas.

ramdeni gaWirveba, ramdeni

problema CamovTvale, ramdenia

kidev, romelsac ar Sevxebivar.

Cven gamosavali unda vipovoT,

yvelam erTad.

Cven am gaWirvebidan amosvla

saswrafod unda daviwyoT da amas

mxolod Tavdauzogavi SromiTa

da brZoliT SevZlebT.

Cveni erToblivi brZola 1-el

oqtombers unda movigoT!

Semodgomaze, TiTqmis erT

TveSi, saparlamento arCevnebSi

Cven didi arCevani gvaqvs gasake-

Tebeli. es arCevnebi iqneba brZo-

la Cveni samSoblosaTvis, Cveni

xalxisaTvis, da Cven am brZolaSi

aucileblad gavimarjvebT!

gamarjvebisTvis saWiroa da

gvaqvs kidec kargad gaazrebuli

da mkafio gegma, romelic nabij-

nabij unda ganvaxorcieloT.

am brZolaSi yvelani jariska-

cebad unda viqceT, TanamebrZole-

bad, da yvelas unda esmodes, rom

mis gareSe saerTo gamarjveba ver

miiRweva. Cven es viciT da amitom

Cven gavimarjvebT!!!

(pauza)

aq mravlad xarT svanebi Sek-

rebili - qvemo svaneTidan. amitom

ramdenime sityva minda giTxraT

svaneTze. vici, TavdaWerili xal-

xi xarT da zedmetad qeba ar giy-

varT. magram ris Tqmasac vapireb,

gadaWarbebuli namdvilad ar unda

iyos.

Tumca ra unda giTxraT, sva-

nebo, svaneTze... mTel Cvens qveya-

nas zemodan dahyurebT - medidu-

`raWa, leCxumi, qvemo svaneTi saqarTvelos kuTxeebia, magram guli da Suagulia yvelgan, sadac saqarTveloa~

4 gv.

biZina ivaniSvilis gamosvlis teqsti

27 agvistos aqciaze, ambrolaurSi

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gvesaubreba koalicia `̀qqar-

Tuli ocnebis~ gardabnis raio-

nis maJoritari deputatobis

kandidati mamuka areSiZe::

_ batono mamuka, gardabani

sakmaod problemuri regionia,

ra situacia dagxvdaT adgilze,

ra awuxebs yvelaze metad adgi-

lobriv mosaxleobas?

_ daviwyeb imiT, rom mTel

saqarTveloSi gardabnis raioni

unikaluria Tavisi eTnikuri, re-

ligiuri da kuTxuri Semadgen-

lobiT. garda imisa, rom mosax-

leobis naxevarze meti araqarT-

veli, ZiriTadad, azerbaijanele-

bi arian, aseve cota somxebi,

rusebi, berZnebi da a.S. azerbai-

janelebic xom or religiur

jgufad sunitebad da Siitebad

iyofian, qarTvelebSi kuTxuri

Semadgenloba uaRresad Wrelia.

aris soflebi, sadac saqarTve-

los sxvadasxva kuTxis warmo-

madgenlebia Casaxlebuli _ qar-

Tleli, imereli, guruli, meg-

reli, garda amisa, ltolvilebi

samaCablodan da afxazeTidan.

aseve, ekomigrantebi _ svanebi da

aWarlebi, romlebic sxvadasxva

ekologiuri katastrofis gamo

am regionSi aRmoCndnen.

warmoidgineT, ro-gori siWrelea, yvelasTavisi pozicia, tradi-cia, cxovrebis wesiaqvs. am TvalsazrisiT,es raioni marTlac un-ikaluria, magram masaqvs udidesi saukunisproblema, riTac ga-morCeulia _ esaa uwy-loba. arada, igi, sab-WoTa periodSi, saxel-mwifos weliwadSi 3-4mosavals aZlevda daor did qalaqs rus-Tavs da Tbiliss kve-bavda, aseve, sabWoTakavSiris ramdenime didqalaqs.

dRes es sawarmoebi yvela ga-

Cerebulia. mTlianad moSlilia

sarwyavi sistema. rac Zalian

mniSvnelovania, moSlilia sasme-

li wylis sistemac. swored amis

gamoa, rom adamianebi dabinZure-

bul wyals svamen da Sedegad Za-

lian maRalia sxvadasxva tipis

daavadebaTa ricxvi. katastrofu-

lia ekologiuri viTarebac. iq

ganlagebulia qarxnebi, romel-

Tac filtrebi moSlili aqvT,

maTi mflobelebi filtrs Segne-

bulad ar amuSaveben, radgan es

Zviri jdeba da, praqtikulad

xalxs wamlaven. magaliTad, ase-

Ti sofelia Tazakendi, romlis

mosaxleoba cementis qarxnis ga-

monabolqvis gamo katastroful

mdgomareobaSia. katastroful

mdgomareobaSia gajis damamuSave-

beli karierebis gverdiT arsebu-

li soflebic. magaliTad, axali

samgori. gajs Ria wesiT amuSave-

ben, ar sruldeba kanoni, rome-

lic gaxsnili karieris amowur-

vis Semdeg mis damarxvasa da

mwvane nargavis gaSenebas gulis-

xmobs. aqedan gamomdinare, sof-

lebi _ gamarjveba da axali sam-

gori mTlianad mtverSia. mar-

tyofsa da saakaZes Soris radi-

aqtiuli narCenebis samarxia.

marTalia, es samarxi sarkofag-

Sia moqceuli da garkveulwilad

daculia, magram saqme Semdeg

uyairaTobasTan, danaSaulTan

gvaqvs _ dakargulia specialuri

Jurnali. aqedan gamomdinare, ara-

vin icis, ra weria iq da ra aris

damarxuli am sarkofagSi.

am samarxis TavzeZroxebi balaxs Zoven,patroni ar hyavs am ad-gils. Sesabamisad, mar-

tyofis mosaxleobasonkologiuri daavade-bebis kuTxiT seriozu-li problemebi aqvs.wylis problemis gamodaiwyo gardabnis samx-reTis zonis gaudabno-eba. Tu ase gagrZelda15 weliwadSi mTeligardabani udabno iqne-ba. es globaluri pr-oblemaa.

aseve aris sxva tipis prob-

lemebic, ZiriTadad, socialu-

ri, magaliTad, umuSevroba, ad-

gilobrivi mosaxleoba dasaqme-

buli araa da am dros ama Tu

im mSeneblobaze sxvadasxva qve-

ynidan Camoyvanili muSebi muSa-

oben. soflebSi ar aris ambu-

latoriebi, es regioni RvTis-

gan mitovebulia. samedicino

momsaxurebis sistema imdenad

areulia, adamianebma ar ician,

sad da vis mimarTon. martivi,

samedicino cnobis asaRebad

uzarmazari manZilis gavla ux-

debaT. rac Seexeba ganaTlebas,

xelisufleba ki trabaxobs aSe-

nebuli skolebiT, magram aqeT

mgoni, arc gamouxedavs. garda-

bani sportuli regionia, Wida-

obaSi uamravi evropis, msof-

lio da olimpiuri Cempioni

hyavs. am dros ki umetesi

sportuli darbazebis mdgoma-

reoba, veraviTar kritikas ver

uZlebs.

_ urTulesi problemebi Ca-

moTvaleT, Tavad rogor apirebT

am sakiTxebis gadaWras gamarjve-

bis SemTxvevaSi?

_ TandaTan vrwmundebiT, rom

ivaniSvilma am regionSi Cemi

wardgeniT swori gadawyvetile-

ba miiRo. imitom, rom es urTu-

lesi raionia da aq mogeba pres-

tiJis saqmea, raTa SemdgomSi mi-

si potencialis realizacia

moxdes. sircxvilia, Tbilisidan

15 kilometrSi mdebare raioni

aseT dReSi iyos. gardabani sa-

qarTveloSi yvelaze

didi raionia, magram

sigrZeSi sul 80 km-ia.

anu misi movla ar iyo

rTuli, Tbilisis ga-

reubnidan pirdapir

gardabani ebmeba da am

dros imdenad rTuli,

gansxvavebuli viTare-

baa gegoneba, sxva qve-

yanaSi moxvdi. am rai-

ons wlebis manZilze

erTi da igive wurbe-

lebi erTi da igive

kuTxidan asxdnen ki-

serze. klani, romelic

mravali welia raions

kiserze azis, mas

sisxls wovs. gardaba-

ni visac ar ezareba, yvelas ga-

nawilebis Temaa. aseul heqtro-

biT miwebi absoluturad ukano-

nodaa dakanonebuli.

_ gardabnis raionSi bevri

eTnikuri umciresoba cxovrobs.

qarTul sazogadoebaSi maTi in-

tegraciisTvis xelisufleba

arafers akeTebs. rogor gesaxe-

baT am problemis mogvareba?

_unda giTxraT, rom erovnu-

li umciresobis saxelmwifoeb-

rivi integraciis programa fasa-

duria. SeiZleba, qaRaldze kar-

gia, magram realurad ar srul-

deba. rogorc vatyob, Segnebu-

lad ar sruldeba. imitom ki

ara, rom ar SeuZliaT, aramed

Semdegi principis gamo _

rac SeiZleba metsibneleSi unda amyofoadamianebi, rom morCi-li iyos. amas akeTebsCveni xelisufleba, racazerbaijanelebis ma-galiTze naTlad Cans.azerbaijanlebis didinawilisTvis, es miwamaTi samSobloa, rad-gan aq sam saukuneze me-tia cxovroben. aqedangamomdinare, CvenTvismaTi integracia qarT-vel sazogadoebaSi mo-mgebiania.

rac Seexeba qarTuli enis

swavlebas Semdegi principiT

xdeba _ daiwyeba programa, 6-7

Tve aswavlian skolaSi qarTuls

da mere uceb es programa gauge-

bari mizezebiT wydeba. maswav-

leblebi ukan brundebian, bavSve-

bi ki uswavlelni rCebian. Sede-

gad, garemo maT aiZulebs mxo-

lod erTi ena _ mSobliuri

icodnen, man ar icis arc rusu-

li, arc qarTuli da araferi,

amis gamoa uswavleli da bneli.

azerbaijanelebi iTxoven, Cven

Svilebs qarTuli ena aswavle-

To. imis magivrad, rom am proeq-

tis gaaqtiureba moxdes, amis

nacvlad es xalxi RvTis anaba-

raa mitovebuli. rac Seexeba

kadrebs, romlebic saxelmwifo

aparatSi _ Zalovan Tu adminis-

traciul struqturebSia dasaq-

mebuli, _ es kadrebi SerCeulia

loialobis da ara kanonis mi-

xedviT sadac weria, rom saxel-

mwifo ena unda icode. miuxeda-

vad imisa, rom soflebSi saxel-

mwifo enis swavlebis Tvalsaz-

risiT, mZime mdgomareobaa, gar-

dabanSi qarTuli ena bevrma icis.

umaRlesi qarTul enaze Tbilis-

Si daamTavres, magram qarTul

enas ar iyeneben imitom, rom Tbi-

lisSi ganaTlebamiRebuli axal-

gazrda xelisuflebisTvis po-

tenciurad saSiSia. xelisufle-

bas adgilze ueno azerbaijaneli

sWirdeba, romelic administra-

ciaSi simbolurad iqneba, magram

brZanebas usityvod Seasrulebs.

ai, esaa integraciis procesi,

romelsac xelisufleba qvemo

qarTlSi, gardabnis raionSi avi-

Tarebs. ase rom araviTari in-

tegracia, piriqiT, dezintegra-

cia xdeba. magaliTad aviRoT,

rogori tipis propagandas ewe-

vian xelisuflebis warmomadgen-

lebi kuluarulad _ azerbaija-

nelebs eubnebian Tu opozicias

miscemT xmas, maSin 90-iani wle-

bi dabrundeba, qarTvelebi

Tqvens Zarcvas, Seviwrovebas,

saxlebSi Semovardnas, Tqveni

colebis gaupatiurebas daiwye-

beno da a.S. aseve, azerbaijane-

lebs, eubnebian _ opozicias ru-

seTTan urTierTobis aRdgena mis

bazarze Tqveni produqciis gasa-

tanad ki ar unda, aramed imitom,

rom somxebs gza gauxsnano. prin-

cipSi, es erovnebaTaSorisi SuR-

lis gaRvivebaa da romel integ-

raciazea saubari. Cven, piriqiT,

bevri adamiani gvWirdeba, rome-

lic saqarTvelos sazogadoebaSi

mTlianadaa integrirebuli da

romelsac materialuri dovla-

Tis Seqmnis saSualeba aqvs. am

adamianebis jgufs saSualo kla-

si hqvia, anu Tavisufali adamia-

nebi. rac ufro Tavisufali, in-

tegrirebuli iqneba adamiani sa-

qarTvelos sazogadoebaSi, miT

ufro seriozuli dasayrdenia

saxelmwifosTvis. esaa Cveni amo-

cana.

_ Tqven zemoT TqviT, xeli-

suflebas eSinia eTnikuri umci-

resobebiso, magram isini eTni-

kur umciresobebs, rogorc sa-

arCevno xmas, ise uyureben. maT

xan alievi dautatanebs _ xeli-

suflebas mieciT xmao, xan _

sarqisiani. faqtobrivad, Cveni

amomrCeveli mezobeli saxelmwi-

foebis prezidentebisgan imarTe-

ba. maSin visi arCevnebia es?

_ ar aris ase saqme, damTav-

rda eg ambavi. erTi kviris win

alievi azerbaijanis saxelmwifo

televiziiT gamovida da ganacxa-

da, rom aravis saqmeSi ar ereva

da saqarTvelos xelisufleba

Tavad moelaparakos sakuTar

xalxso.

kuluarulad vfl-obT informacias, romalievma Cveni xelisuf-lebis emisrebs ganu-cxada _ didxans vatyu-eT es xalxi, bevrjergaveciT dapirebebi daver SevasruleT, ami-tom am saqmeSi aRar Ca-verevio.

axla SeiZleba situacia Se-

icvalos. SeiZleba politikurma

koniunqturam Tavisi roli iTama-

Sos da alievis pozicia Seicva-

los, magram sxva ram minda giTx-

raT _ sofeli qesalos azerbai-

janel mosaxleobas, romelmac

erT mSvenier dRes aRmoaCina, rom

misi miwa, romelic arendiT hqon-

da aRebuli, Cumad gaiyida, sxvi-

sia da zamTarSi sakvebis gareSe

darCnen, amitom, mas arc oficia-

luri Tbilisi aRelvebs da arc

baqo. piriqiT, dRedaRam oficia-

luri baqos ginebaSia imis gamo,

rom ar exmarnen. qesalo uzarma-

zari sofelia sami saarCevno ub-

niT. mas ainteresebs ara is, baqo-

dan ras etyvian, aramed is, rom

xelisufleba Seicvalos da sa-

marTlianoba aRdges. aseve moeqc-

nen iormuRaloel glexebs _ xe-

daven, rom maT miwas dRes mezo-

beli qveynidan Camosuli adamiane-

bi amuSaveben, Tan maTTvis miuRe-

beli qveynidan. am sofelSi 12

aTasi macxovrebelia. am xeli-

suflebam Tavad gaukvala gza ga-

marjvebisken am regionSi wamoye-

nebul Cvens maJoritar kandi-

dats.

_ Tu aris TqvenTvis cnobi-

li, ra raodenobas Seadgens eT-

nikuri umciresobebis saarCevno

xmebi?

_ zust odenobas veravin

ityvis, uamravi adamiania qveyni-

dan wasuli. saqarTveloSi, sa-

erTod, erovnuli umciresobebi

17-18 procents Seadgens. es of-

icialuri cifrebia, magram rigi

soflebdan mosaxleobis naxevari

gasulia. magaliTad, gardabnele-

biT savsea minski, magnitogors-

ki, moskovi, igive mdgomareobaa

somxebTan dakavSirebiTac. java-

xeTSi, daaxloebiT, mosaxleobis

ori mesamedia darCenili. zus-

tad am xmebiT manipulirebas

cdilobs xelisufleba. amitom

hqvia javaxeTsa da qvemo qarTls

xmebis beReli. vici, rom xeli-

suflebam saqarTvelos rigi re-

gionebi saerTod miatova da

brZolas aRar apirebs. mTavari

xelisufleba iqamde mivida, rom gardabanSi soflis

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rad. mkacrebi da samarTlianebi

xarT. antikur xanaSi cnobili

iyo, rom svanebs asi aTasi meom-

ris gamoyvana SeeZloT. es im

dros warmoudgenlad didi jari

iyo.

ai, ra Soridan modixarT, ai,

ra didia Tqveni istoria, rome-

lic Cveni, qarTvelebis, istori-

isa da kulturis ara Tu ganuyo-

feli nawilia, aramed erT-erTi

uRrmesi fesvia.

misaxedia axla svaneTic, ise-

ve rogorc yvela maRalmTiani re-

gioni.

Cven avamoqmedebT maRalmTiani

regionebis Sesaxeb kanons, rome-

lic realurad Seuwyobs xels

mTis soflebis aRorZinebasa da

mosaxleobis dabrunebas.

Cven avamoqmedebT gansakuTre-

bul sagadasaxado SeRavaTebs in-

vestorebisaTvis, romlebic rea-

lur samuSao adgilebs Seqmnian

mTian da maRalmTian regionebSi.

xelisuflebis amocana iqneba

Tanabrad izrunos qveynis kuTxee-

bis socialur-ekonomikur ganvi-

Tarebaze. qveyanis arc erTi

kuTxe ar unda viTardebodes da-

narCeni mxareebis xarjze.

„qarTuli ocneba“ daamkvid-

rebs TviTmmarTvelobas - Cveni

moqalaqeebi TviTon miiReben ga-

dawyvetilebebs TavianT sofleb-

Si, raionebsa da qalaqebSi, Tavad

dagegmaven biujets da Tavad iqne-

bian misi ganmkargvelebi.

kanoniT iqneba gansazRvruli,

centridan ra Tanxa gadaecema ad-

gilobriv TviTmmarTvelobas. aRa-

rasodes iqneba damokidebuli am

Tanxis odenoba da gadacema-arga-

dacemis sakiTxi romelime Cinov-

nikis neba-survilze.

TviTmmarTvelobis sikeTes

yvelani igrZnobT. Cven amas gpir-

debiT!

sofels eyoleba patroni da

es patroni misi mosaxleoba iqne-

ba!

„qarTul ocnebas“ dagegmili

aqvs, aaRorZinos qarTuli sofe-

li da amisaTvis Seqmnas erTmi-

liardiani fondi. es ase iqneba, me

amas gpirdebiT!

Cveni gegmis mixedviT, soflis

meurneobaSi dasaqmebuli moqala-

qeebi SeZleben grZelvadiani,

xelmisawvdomi da SeRavaTiani

sesxebis aRebas da amiT sargeb-

lobas; mowesrigdeba miwis daka-

nonebis sakiTxebi da Seiqmneba sa-

Tanado garantiebi; glexebs xeli

SeewyobaT Tanamedrove teqnolo-

giebis aTvisebaSi, dafuZndeba ker-

Zo sawarmoebi, romlebic momxma-

rebels SesTavazeben sasoflo-sa-

meurneo inventars - traqtorebs

da yvela saWiro aRWurvilobas,

es sawarmoebi xels Seuwyoben maT

mosavlis aRebaSi, dabinavebaSi da,

saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, dasawyo-

bebaSi, bazarze gatanasa da gasa-

RebaSi.

Cven SevcvliT arsebul poli-

tikas da qarTul sofels Tavis

namdvil mniSvnelobas davubru-

nebT, qarTul bazarze kvlav dab-

rundeba Cvens miwaze moyvanili

mosavali.

gpirdebiT, 1-eli oqtombris

Semdeg, roca Cven viqnebiT xeli-

suflebaSi, mxarSi amogidgebiT

da rTveli ise Caivlis, Tqven

rom gagixardebaT. am kuTxeSi

moyvanili unikaluri yurZnis fa-

sic iseTi iqneba, am yurZens rom

ekadreba.

Cven avaRorZinebT raWa-

leCxumSi saxelganTqmuli Rvino-

ebis warmoebas. “xvanWkara”, “usa-

xelauri”, “TeTra”, “aleqsandro-

uli”, “tviSi”, “ojaleSi” da

“cicqa” mzaddeba unikaluri yur-

Znis jiSebisagan. aRniSnuli dar-

gis ganviTareba Semosavlebis

mniSvnelovani wyaro gaxdeba ro-

gorc raWa-leCxum-qvemo svaneTis,

ise mTlianad saqarTvelosTvis.

Cven gvjera, rom soflis me-

urneobis aRorZinebis sikeTe Sex-

vdeba yovel adamians, yovel oj-

axs. amas igrZnobs yoveli Tqven-

gani, da Tqvens wvlils SeitanT

qarTuli soflis meurneobis aR-

orZinebis saqmeSi.

aravis egonos, leCxumi davi-

viwye. aris ki erTi gasaWiri ma-

inc am qveyanaSi, leCxums rom ar

awuxebdes? ara mgonia. leCxumi

is mxarea, romelic, vin icis, uam-

rav gasaocar saidumlos inaxavs

da dRemde aravis umxels.

mixvdiT albaT, rom xvamlis

mTaze mogaxsenebT. istoriuli

wyaroebis mixedviT, swored xvam-

lis masivSi, misi gamoqvabulebis

siRrmeSi inaxeboda qarTvel mefe-

Ta saganZuri, romelic jerac ar

aris gamokvleuli. am mTas, sxva-

Ta Soris, Turme, antikuri avto-

rebic icnobdnen.

uamravi legendaa xvamlis

mTasTan dakavSirebuli. am legen-

debis mixedviT, amirani mis siRr-

meSi, kldeze iyo mijaWvuli. le-

gendebs rom Tavi davaneboT, ara

erTi faqtobrivi dasturi arse-

bobs, rom xvamlis mTis masivi sa-

fuZvlian arqeologiur gamokvle-

vas saWiroebs.

aq, rogorc Cans, marTlac sa-

ocari aRmoCenebi gvelodeba sa-

qarTvelos uZvelesi istoriidan.

ara erTi qarTveli mecnieri-arqe-

ologi dainteresebula am prob-

lemiT, magram sakmarisi saxsrebis

uqonlobis gamo sasurvelis gake-

Teba ver SeZlo. maTi mTavari

ocneba xvamlis mTis Seswavla

iyo.

aseTi keTilSobiluri ocnebe-

bis asrulebaze Tu ar vizruneT,

raRa „qarTuli ocneba“ viqnebiT.

gpirdebiT, rom „qarTuli ocneba“

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg,

qarTvel mecnierebsa da mkvlev-

rebsac mixedavs.

Torem xom xedavT, usaxsro-

bis gamo sakuTar istoriasac ki

ver CavwvdomivarT. arada, isto-

ria ganaTlebis erT-erTi mTavari

sayrdenia. ganaTlebis gareSe ki

ukeTes momavals ver veRirsebiT.

diax, erT-erTi mTavari prio-

riteti Cveni xelisuflebisTvis

iqneba ganaTleba.

Cven yvela sofelSi, sadac

bavSvebi cxovroben, aRvadgenT

skolas, yvela moswavles eqneba

xarisxiani ganaTlebis miRebis sa-

Sualeba da aRar mouwevT sofli-

dan sofelSi fexiT siaruli.

ojaxebs aRar eqnebaT saxelmZRva-

neloebis SeZenis problema. mas-

wavleblebi dafasebuli iqnebian,

maswavlebloba prestiJuli pro-

fesia gaxdeba, Tavisi Sromis Se-

satyvisi xelfasiT da socialuri

dacvis garantiebiT.

yvelaze mTavari da mniSvne-

lovani yoveli CvenganisTvis aris

jandacvis sakiTxi.

TiTqos jandacvas mixedes,

axali saavadmyofoebi aaSenes, mag-

ram am saavadmyofoebSi saTanado

profilis eqimebis naklebobaa da

amitom adamians Tu rame seriozu-

li daxmareba dasWirda, an quTa-

isSi unda Cavides anda, - Tbilis-

Si.

Cven mivxedavT Tqvens janmr-

Telobas, gpirdebiT!

„qarTuli ocneba“ gpirdebaT,

rom 1-el oqtombers arCevnebSi

gamarjvebis Semdeg, saxelmwifo

izrunebs uklebliv yvela moqa-

laqis janmrTelobaze!

„qarTuli ocneba“ gpirdebaT,

rom miwisZvriT dazaralebuli

ojaxebi aucileblad miiReben sa-

xelmwifos daxmarebas, romelsac

wlebia elodebian.

„qarTuli ocneba“ gpirdebaT,

rom Cven gaviyvanT gzas, romelic

ase sWirdeba raWis mosaxleobas.

es gza rikoTis uReltexilis ga-

reSe, saCxeris gavliT, daakavSi-

rebs raWas dedaqalaqTan.

Cven yvela danapirebs Sevas-

rulebT, amis sityvas me gaZlevT!

me gpirdebiT, rom saqarTve-

loSi kanoni ikanonebs. swored

kanoni mosTxovs pasuxs imaT, vinc

dRes ukanonobas sCadis.

ukanonoba da uzneobaa is,

rac am dReebSi ikadra am xeli-

suflebam - ukve bavSvebTan da-

iwyo angariSsworeba.

iciT albaT, aq, ambrolaurSi,

15-16 wlis fexburTel biWebs,

imis gamo, rom „qarTuli ocne-

bis“ maisurebi Caicves da ise ga-

vidnen raionul CempionatSi, fi-

nalSi monawileobis ufleba aRar

misces.

es aris „nacionaluri moZra-

obis“ da misi lideris namdvili

saxe - yvelas upirispirdeba,

vinc gabedavs da rame formiT sa-

kuTar pozicias gamoxatavs, da

yvela CaTreuli hyavs ukanonoba-

Si, viszec jer kidev SeuZlia

gavlenis moxdena.

yvelam viciT, rom nacionalu-

ri moZraobis aqtivistebis garda,

ubralo da, maTi azriT, umweo

xalxis daSinebaSi sxvebic mona-

wileoben. isic viciT, rom uSua-

lod arCevnebis procesisa da Se-

degebis gayalbebaSi xelisufleba

soflis mamasaxlisebisa da mas-

wavleblebis CaTrevas apirebs.

swored am adamianebs vafrTxi-

leb axla: ar daemonon xelisuf-

lebas da ar miiRon monawileoba

arCevnebis, anu Cveni saxelmwifos

momavlis gayalbebaSi!

Tu isini uars ar ityvian am

Zalian mZime danaSaulSi monawi-

leobaze, kanonis winaSe ageben pa-

suxs, radgan Cvens qveyanaSi, er-

Txel da samudamod, kanonis uze-

naesoba unda damyardes! da dam-

yardeba kidec! amis sityvas me

gaZlevT!

saakaSvili da misi xelisuf-

lebis warmomadgenlebis muqarebs

bolo ar uCans. xmamaRla bedaven

imis Tqmas, rom me qarTuli sa-

xelmwifos mteri var da ruseTis

samsaxurSi vdgavar.

es utifari tyuilia, rome-

lic erTaderT mizans emsaxureba:

xalxs Cemi ndoba daakargvinos da

qveynis mtrad gamomacxdon.

aqamde mecineboda maT tyui-

lebze, magram axla ukve Cvens

mravalricxovan mxardamWerebsac

moRalateobas abraleben da amiT

saSinel Seuracxyofas ayeneben.

naTlad vxedav saakaSvilis

borot ganzraxvas - Tavisi Zala-

uflebis SesanarCuneblad mzad

aris, adamianebi samkvdro-sasi-

cocxlod gadahkidos erTmaneTs.

ai, es ganzraxvaa miutevebeli

danaSauli qveynis winaSe, rome-

lic, ara mgonia, gonierma da

Rirsebis mqone xalxma dauSvas!

ar SegeSindeT, xalxo, Cvens

mxaresaa civilizebuli samyaro,

am dReebSi maT mkafiod gamoxates

TavianTi pozicia da leninizmad

Seafases am xelisuflebis saqci-

eli. amaze mwvave Sefaseba ra un-

da iyos!

diax, aRaravin daxuWavs

Tvals arCevnebis gayalbebaze!

aRar gauvaT!

Cven simarTles gavukvlevT

gzas da samarTlianobas davamk-

vidrebT Cvens qveyanaSi.

1-el oqtombers „qarTuli

ocneba“ aucileblad gaimarjvebs

arCevnebSi, Secvlis am xelisuf-

lebas da gpirdebiT, rom:

Cven erTad SevqmniT iseT qve-

yanas, romliTac viamayebT Cven

da iamayeben Cveni momavali Tao-

bebi!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

sadac veRaravin waarTmevs xalxs

Tavis arCevans!

Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT

Cvens qveyanas!

Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT

Cvens xalxs!

Cven gavaerTianebT Cvens xa-

lxs!

Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs ga-

Wirvebas!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

sadac aRaravis dasWirdeba lukma-

puris saSovnelad samSoblodan

gadaxvewa.

me gpirdebiT, rom Cven Sevam-

cirebT gaumarTleblad maRal

komunalur gadasaxadebs, pensia

aranaklebi iqneba, vidre saarse-

bo minimumia. Tavad saarsebo mini-

mumis odenobac gadaixedeba, Seic-

vleba da realur odenobas gau-

toldeba.

Cven gavaormagebT socialur

daxmarebas da amas miiRebs yvela,

visac es namdvilad sWirdeba. so-

cialuri daxmareba aRarasodes

aRaravis ar eqneba mosapovebeli

Rirsebis Selaxvisa da damcire-

bis xarjze, me amas gpirdebiT!

me gpirdebiT, rom „qarTuli

ocneba“ TqvenTan erTad ibrZo-

lebs da ukeTesobisken Secvlis

yvela adamianis cxovrebas!

saqarTveloSi daculi iqneba

adamianis yvela ufleba, azrisa

da sityvis Tavisufleba; sasamar-

Tlo iqneba samarTliani, media -

damoukidebeli, biznesi - xelSeu-

xebeli!

iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac

Cvens saamayo jariskacebsa da po-

licielebs miecemaT imis SesaZ-

lebloba, rom Rirseulad emsaxu-

ron saxelmwifos!

Tavisufal saqarTveloSi Ta-

visufali xalxi icxovrebs, ro-

melsac aRar eqneba politikuri

devnis SiSi! me amas gpirdebiT!

qarTvelebi, osebi, afxazebi,

ebraelebi, azerbaijanelebi, som-

xebi, rusebi, berZnebi da sxvebi

iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, romelic

samSoblo iqneba yvelasTvis!

saqarTvelo gaxdeba Tavisufa-

li, demokratiuli qveyana, evro-

puli Tanamegobrobis Rirseuli

wevri!

am brZolaSi Cven erTmaneTs

vWirdebiT, da Cven erTmaneTi

gvWirdeba. mxolod erTad dgomiT

movigebT am brZolas!

Cven gvwams da mtkiced gvje-

ra, rom gavimarjvebT arCevnebSi,

qarTveli xalxi gaimarjvebs, sa-

qarTvelo gaimarjvebs, Cven erTad

SevqmniT ukeTes momavals da er-

Tad avisrulebT qarTul ocnebas!

3 gv. `raWa, leCxumi, qvemo svaneTi saqarTvelos kuTxeebia, magram guli da Suagulia yvelgan, sadac saqarTveloa~

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televizori CavrTe da ekra-

nidan viRac qalbatoni gamovar-

da yviriliT: _ wadiT, wadiT,

mteria eg, mteri!

qalbatons axalgazrda mama-

kacebi aSoSminebdnen, magram ama-

od _ is mainc videokamerisken

miiwevda da _ mteria eg, mte-

rio, _ gahkioda mTeli xmiT.

rogorc gairkva, qalbatoni

mterSi biZina ivaniSvils gu-

lisxmobda...

...gzispiras Sekrebil adamia-

nebs avtomanqanam Cauqrola da

raRac siTxe Seasxura.

TeTri boliT gadaipenta

iqauroba...

Sekrebis monawileebSi CoC-

qoli atyda _ zogs guli ere-

oda, zogs Tvalebi ewvoda,

zogs, axvelebda da sunTqva

uWirda.

Sekrebilebs, romlebic `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ mxardamWerebi

aRmoCndnen, amerikuli peplis

sawinaaRmdego Sxam-qimikatis

xsnari Seasxures.

imave saRamos televiziiT

viRac axalgazrda kaci gamovida

(mgoni, sursaTis erovnuli saa-

gentos xelmZRvaneli) da sazo-

gadoebas auwya: _ nu geSiniaT,

peplis sawinaaRmdego Sxam-qimi-

kati adamianis janmrTelobisT-

vis absoluturad uvnebeliao.

adamians SefurTxebac ar

klavs, magram es imas ar niS-

navs, rom unda SeafurTxo. ada-

mianis janmrTelobisTvis SeiZ-

leba arc talaxi iyos didad

saxifaTo, magram es imas ar

niSnavs, rom adamians talaxi

unda esrolo. Tqven warmoidgi-

neT, adamiani arc panRuriT

mokvdeba, magram amis gamo ada-

mians panRuri xom ar unda amo-

artya da bolos, adamians SeiZ-

leba peplebis sawinaaRmdego es

Tqveni Sxam-qimikatic ar klavs,

magram mainc ar unda Seasxuro,

radgan is adamiania da ara pe-

pela, Tanac amerikuli.

erTi Cemi megobris monayols

giyvebiT _ kiroks, romelic

profesiiT `JeStianCiki~ iyo,

magram im areul-dareul 90-ian

wlebSi sakmaod mniSvnelovani

saqmeebi ebara, hkiTxes _ rodis

dawynardeba es qveyana da rodis

gveSvelebao?

_ rodis gveSveleba da ma-

Sin, me rom isev saxuravze aval

da sardali loTi kidev Tavis

puris `furgons~ daubrundebao.

es sityvebi TiTqmis oci

wlis winaT aris naTqvami, magram

am xnis ganmavlobaSi araferi

Secvlila. _ saxelmwifo saqme-

ebis gadawyvetas kvlav `JeSti-

anCikebi~, diasaxlisebi, `gruza-

vikis~ mZRolebi cdiloben.

yvela profesia didebuli da

saamayoa, magram isic ar unda

iyos sakmaTo, rom puri mepurem

unda gamoacxos, qudi mequdem

unda Sekeros, politikosma po-

litikas unda mixedos.

CvenTan ki yvelaferi isev pi-

riqiTaa: politikosebi `prara-

boben~, `prarabebi~ politiko-

soben, quds mepure keravs, purs

mequde acxobs, xolo Cemma Ta-

nasoflelma qalbatonma da mis-

ma politikurma `daqalebma~

zustad ician, vin aris saqarT-

velos mteri, vin aris ruseTis

kaci, vin visTan aris Sekruli

da vin visTan garigebuli.

Cemo Zvirfaso dapativcemulo qalba-tonebo, kargi ojaxiskargo diasaxliseboobujidan, karaleTi-dan, duSeTidan, mere-Tidan _ Zalian mainte-resebs, saidan iciTTqven es yvelaferi?saidan iciT Tqven, vinaris mteri, vin arisjaSuSi, vin visTan ar-is Sekruli da garige-buli?

Tqven ra, saidumlo masaleb-

ze migiwvdebaT xeli, sadazver-

vo samsaxurebTan gaqvT kavSiri

Tu saxelmwifoTa meTaurebis

Sexvedrebis kuluarul infor-

maciebs gawvdiT vinme?

qalbatonebs rom Tavi dava-

neboT, saidan ician, vin aris

mteri da vin aris ruseTis ka-

ci im batonebma, ivaniSvilis

xalxis danaxvaze qvebs rom das-

wvdebian xolme?

yvelafers rom TavidavaneboT, es qvebissrola saidan iswav-leT, Tqve dalocvile-bo, papuasebi xarT TuqarTvelebi xarT, uZve-lesi kulturis da uZ-velesi civilizaciiseris Svilebi?

XXI saukunea da imis nacv-

lad, rom rogorc civilizebul

ers ekadreba, ise moviqceT,

ukan, gamoqvabulebisken mivdi-

varT?

papuasebio, vaxseneT zemoT

da papuasebic ki ar isvrian uk-

ve qvebs da Cven raRa dagvemar-

Ta?

iciT Tu ara Tqven, rom qar-

Tveli kacisTvis, vaJkacisTvis,

udides sircxvilad iTvleboda,

qvas rom daswvdomoda da kacis-

Tvis esrola?

qvasrolia eris iarliys nu

miviwebebT am ocdameerTe sauku-

neSi _ sircxvilia es da Tavis

moWraa...

demokratiis mTavari nakli

isaa, rom normaluris da aranor-

maluris, Wkvianisa da uWkuos,

moazrovnis da gonebaClungis, ge-

niosis da briyvis, ganaTlebulis

da uwignuris xmas Tanabari wona

da fasi aqvs da arCevnebis Sede-

gebi imazea damokidebuli, gonie-

rebi sWarboben am Tu im sazoga-

doebaSi Tu ugnurebi?

damoukideblobis miRebis

dRidan saqarTvelos winaSe

swored es umTavresi problema

dgas _ ra gadasZalavs _ goni-

ereba Tu ugunureba?

1 oqtombers gairkveva, ada-

mianTa ra kategoria Warbobs

Cvens sazogadoebaSi...

piradad CemTvis es arCevnebi

swored amiT aris saintereso

da RirsSesaniSnavi...

vaxtang xarCilava

saidan ician ojaxis diasaxlebma vin aris saqarTvelos mteri

da ruseTis kaci?

imedi isev qvemo qarTlis da

javaxeTis aqvs. magram Cven yve-

lafers gavakeTebT xmebis dasa-

cavad, seriozuli sqema gvaqvs

mofiqrebuli. Sedegi iqneba

iseTi, rogoric Cven gvinda, Tu

xelisuflebam TviTon arCevne-

bis dRes omi, yuTebis gatace-

ba, quCaSi xalxis daxocva, da-

patimrebebi ar daiwyo.

_ amis saSiSroebas xedavT?

_ rasakvirvelia, saSiSroeba

aris. xelisuflebis qcevidan,

prezidentis amas winandeli gan-

cxadebidan _ arCevnebSi gamarj-

veba nebismer fasad _ gamomdi-

nare, rogorc sCans, yvelaferze

wamsvlelia. arCevnebSi gamarj-

veba nebismier fasad _ aseT ra-

mes hitleri ityoda albaT. Tu

demokratias RaRadeb, maSin ga-

marjveba nebismier fasad ar ar-

sebobs. zRvari moxsnilia, ne-

bismieri fasi yvelaferia, SeiZ-

leba meore diliT yvela aqti-

visti daxvriton. manamde boke-

riam Tqva _ Cven yvelaferze

wavalT, izolaciis fasadac

rom dagvijdeso. iZulebulni

varT, maT naTqvams yuri davug-

doT. xalxi, rasakvirvelia, da-

Sinebulia, magram nacionalebis

mimarT agresiulni arian. gar-

dabnis raionSi erTi sofelia,

romlisac nacionalebs iqiT

eSiniaT da verafers bedaven.

_ mizezi ra aris?

_ is, rom es aris qarTuli

sofeli, sadac mosaxleobas mi-

webi gauyides. dRes, saswrafo

wesiT, viRacebs ukan ubruneben

miwebs, ukanoneben. magram am so-

felSi miwebs ver ukanoneben

imitom, rom es miwebi iseT

xalxs aqvs waRebuli, maT ver

arTmeven, raTa Zvel mflobe-

lebs isev daukanonon. am so-

fels verafriT daaSineb, xalxi

mSieria da yvelafrisTvis mza-

daa. magram sxvagan aris daSine-

bis faqtebi, ver getyviT, rom

arCevnebi 100 procentiT moge-

bulia. sofelSi informaciul

vakuumSi myof xalxze zemoqme-

debs SeZaxili TiTqos ruseTis

agentebi varT. garda amisa, ax-

laxan gardabnis centrSi Cveni

eqvsi aqtivisti (oRond ar

icodnen, rom isini `qarTuli

ocnebidan~ iyvnen), gaaCeres da

manqanidan gadmosulma administ-

raciis warmomadgenelma maT

100-100 lari da maisurebi _

`me miyvars saqarTvelo~ dauri-

ga. azerbaijanelebsac, qarTve-

lebsac urigeben 200-300 lars,

zogs warTmeul miwebs ukanone-

ben, mimdinareobs totaluri

mosyidva. amas samwuxarod, ver

vaZlevT Sesabamis Sefasebas imi-

tom, rom bevr maTgans eSinia

amis Tqmis, Tanac Cven ar gvaqvs

dacvis iseTi meqanizmebi, rogo-

ric gvinda, rom gvqondes. Tum-

ca, rasakvirvelia, SegviZlia

amaze didi ambis atexva, avte-

xavT kidec, garkveulwilad in-

formacias vagrovebT. uamravi

daSinebis faqtebia. Cven am da-

Sinebis faqtebs ucxoel damk-

virveblebs vawvdiT.

erT faqts gety-viT, erT-erTi sof-lis mRvdeli, rome-lic Riadaa Cveni momx-re, SuaRameze saxli-dan gamoiyvanes daaTas sikeTes hpirde-bodnen, raTa Cven mxa-res aRar yofiliyo,magram aman rom argaWra, muqaraze gada-vidnen. xelisuflebaukve iqamde mivida,rom soflis mRvdl-ebsac daeria.

_ ZiriTadad, opozicia xe-

lisuflebis 30 procentze sa-

ubrobs, magram es rom gaigo,

amomrCevlis zusti raodenoba

xom unda icode, Tanac am pro-

centSi administraciul re-

surss TvliT da ara gayalbe-

bul xmebs, xom?

_ rasakvirvelia, gayalbe-

buli xmebi ar iTvleba, magram

nawilobriv iTvleba. roca 30-

procentian resurszea saubari,

esaa maqsimumi imisa, rom yvela

administraciuli da Zalovani

struqturis TanamSromeli da

maTi ojaxis wevrebi xmas xe-

lisuflebas aZleven. sinamdvi-

leSi, sul mcire, parlamentis

10-12 TanamSromeli da maTi

ojaxis wevrebi vici, romlebic

namdvilad ar miscemen xmas na-

cionalebs e.i. ar aris es maq-

simaluri ricxvi. rasakvirve-

lia, SeiZleba 30 procentic

miiRon da 35 procentic, mag-

ram es sxva meqanizmia. mxardam-

Werebi rom hyavs nac. moZrao-

bas, amas rad unda laparaki,

magram me iZulebaze vsaubrob.

xelisufleba nacionaluri

arxebis meSveobiT amkvidrebs

azrs, rom gamarjveba mainc maT

darCebaT. jer erTi, amas ar un-

da avyveT. meore, gvaqvs meqaniz-

mebi, Tu rogor movaxerxoT ada-

mianebis gaaqtiureba arCevnebam-

de, mesame _ xalxma unda ico-

des, rom xelisufleba ar geg-

mavs arCevnebis mogebas, aramed

gegmavs gamanadgurebel gamarj-

vebas. xalxma winaswar unda

icodes, xelisufleba yvelafer-

ze midis, raTa didi angariSiT

gaimarjvon. aqedan gamomdinare,

xalxi sabrZolvelad Rirsebis

dasacvad mzad unda iyos.

Tamar SveliZe

4 gv.

xelisufleba iqamde mivida, rom gardabanSi soflis

mRvdlebsac ki daeria

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7#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

gvesaubreba koalicia `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ maJoritarobis

kandidati walenjixis raionSi

giorgi naWyebia

_ batono giorgi, Tqven ko-

alicia `qarTulma ocnebam~ wa-

lenjixis maJoritari deputa-

tobis kandidatad dagasaxe-

laT, gviambeT cota ram Tqvens

Sesaxeb _ vin aris giorgi

naWyebia?

_ davibade zugdidSi

1956 wels. pirveli pro-

fesiiT inJiner-teqnikosi

var da sami wlis ganmav-

lobaSi sofel jvarSi

vmuSaobdi engurhesze.

Semdeg iuridiul fa-

kultetze Caviricxe

da miviCnev, rom ro-

gorc pirvelad, meo-

redac SesaniSnavi

profesia avirCie. Tum-

ca iuridiulze Cemi Ca-

ricxva araCveulebrivi pi-

rovnebis, Rirseuli kacis ba-

ton lado Wanturias Zalisx-

meviT moxda. gia, Sen unda Caa-

baro iuridiulze, _ Semaxse-

nebda xolme xSir-xSirad. mec

avdeqi da Cavabare (iRimeba). ga-

vida dro da me isani-samgoris

raionis mosamarTled daviniS-

ne. ar ifiqroT, TiTqos karie-

raze vyofiliyavi gagiJebuli.

yofila SemTxvevebi, roca bevr

Tanamdebobaze vTqvi uari. maT

Soris uzenaesi sasamarTlos

mosamarTleobaze, radgan aras-

dros vyofilvar upasuxismgeb-

lo da yovelTvis megona, ama

Tu im mniSvnelovan postze

yofna imxela tvirTi iqneboda,

romlis zidvasac ver SevZleb-

di da ar mindoda, Cemi azriT,

saqme gamefuWebina.

sxvaTa Soris, 1994-95

wlebSi samegrelos guberna-

torobazec uari ganvacxade.

igive mosazrebiT, rac zemoT

mogaxseneT. saxelmwifo samsa-

xuri arasdros mimaCnda privi-

legiad, amas did pasuxismgeb-

lobad vTvlidi.

_ gamodis, rom saakaSvilis

SefasebiT, korumpirebuli sa-

samarTlo sistemis mosamarT-

le yofilxarT.

_ marTlac sainteresoa,

saakaSvilma im periodis sasa-

marTlo sistemas korumpire-

bulTa sistema ratom uwoda.

SemiZlia Tamamad vTqva: im pe-

riodSi moRvaweobda seriozu-

li iuristebis kohorta, rom-

lebic marTlac saqmis mcodne-

ebi iyvnen. sistemaSi, albaT,

iyvnen korumpirebulebic, mag-

ram mTlianobaSi maTze cudi

ar iTqmis. magaliTad, me ar

maxsovs, rom Cems, rogorc mo-

samarTlis gadawyvetilebaSi

vinme Careuliyo _ verc xeli-

sufleba, verc mTavroba da

verc Cemze maRla mdgomi Ta-

namdebobis piri, amas ver gabe-

davda, magram movida 2004 we-

li da me vigrZeni nacionalu-

ri klanWebis simware _ da-

iwyes `zakazebis~ mocema, mo-

samarTleebs nel-nela Zala-

ufleba ekargebodaT, Tumca

yvelaze didi tragizmi is

iyo, rom xelisuflebidan Tu

ityodnen _ daiWire, unda da-

geWira, udanaSaulo adamianze

Tu gibrZanebdnen _ gaasamarT-

le, unda gagesamarTlebina,

camde marTalic rom yofili-

yo. me didxans ver makadres

aseTi davalebebi, magram bo-

los mainc momadgnen da am ni-

adagze momivida kidec serio-

zuli konfliqti.

erT dRes mewvia erTi me-

tad pativsacemi adamiani da

meubneba: ama da am kacs 4 we-

liwadi unda miusajoo. me

saqmes ar vicnobdi da vifiq-

re, albaT, axlobelia, 8 we-

liwadi ekuTvnis da oTxs ami-

tomac mTxovs-meTqi da vuTxa-

ri: gadavxedav saqmes da rac

SesaZlebeli iqneba, imas gava-

keTeb-meTqi. Cavixede saqmeSi

da ras vxedav _ kaci ukanono

patimaria. meore dRes Sevxvdi

da vuTxari: oTxi weli ki

ara, es patimari sasamarTlo

darbazidan aris gasaSvebi-

meTqi. maSin adeiSvilTan wa-

val da gavarkvevo. mokled,

bolos sami weliwadi mainc

miusajeo, am winadade-

biT dabrunda.

_ ras erCodnen, ra

undodaT am udanaSaulo

adamianisgan?

_ es udanaSaulo

adamiani Jurnalisti

iyo, romelsac dawerili

hqonda statia oqruaS-

vilsa da qarelze ergne-

Tis bazrobis gauqmebas-

Tan dakavSirebiT _ gaa-

uqmes ergneTis erTiani

bazari, daqsaqses sxva-

dasxva adgilas da Semo-

savlebs inawilebeno. es

ar apaties da mizezebis

Zebna dauwyes.

_ modiT, walenjixas

davubrundeT. batono gi-

orgi, fesvebi walenji-

xis raionSi gqoniaT. kargad

icnobT dRes raionis proble-

mebs? miT ufro, rom walenji-

xam gasuli saukunis 90-iian

wlebSi gansakuTrebiT mZime

dReebi gadaitana...

_ walenjixa samoqalaqo

omis periodSi samxedro Sena-

erTebis bude iyo. uvardebod-

nen ojaxSi, klavdnen, Zarcvav-

dnen, wvavdnen saxlebs. bolos,

rogorc iqna, dastabilda si-

tuacia, magram raionSi daisad-

gura udidesma zizRma eduard

SevardnaZisadmi. es gaxda Sem-

deg mizezi walenjixidan `re-

voluciis dawyebis~... bevr wa-

lenjixels dResac amitom uy-

vars saakaSvili. magram yvela-

ze saintereso mainc is aris,

rom samegrelos raionebi

fasadurad mainc Secvlilia,

aqa-iq raRac aris gakeTebu-

li, magram walenjixa isev

gapartaxebulia. rom ityvi-

an, RmerTisganac da kacis-

ganac mitovebuli da gave-

ranebulia.

walenjixis tyes Cine-

lebia Seseuli.

Waniswyali sagrZnoblad

dapataravda imis gamo, rom ga-

iCexa da gaveranda wablis uni-

kaluri tyeebi.

erTi SexedviT Rarib wa-

lenjixas tyis saxiT udidesi

simdidre aqvs, SesaniSnavi sa-

kurorto adgili _ squri

upatronodaa mitovebuli. gam-

geblisTvis uTqvamT _ squram-

de gza gavakeToT, turistebi

Camovlen, raions eSvelebao.

gamgebels upasuxia _ jer Ca-

movidnen turistebi da gzas

mere gavakeTebTo...

_ batono giorgi, icodiT,

rom koaliciidan deputato-

bis kandidatad dagasaxelebd-

nen?

_ Cemi wardgena ucnaurad

moxda. kandidatebis didi nawi-

li ukve cnobili iyo, roca me

damirekes da deputatobis kan-

didatoba SemomTavazes. me,

praqtikulad, uari vTqvi: rai-

onSi lado Wanturia iyos da

me deputatobis kandidatad vi-

yaro kenWi-meTqi? baton lados

samecniero saqmianobis gamo

elementaruli dro da saSua-

leba ara aqvs, germaniaSi uni-

versitetSi kaTedris gamgea da

misTvis advili ar iqneba par-

lamentis deputatobao, miTx-

res. amis Semdeg davTanxmdi.

vici, brZola ukompromiso da

mZime iqneba, magram sxva gamosa-

vali ar aris. walenjixa Cemi

mSobliuri raionia. misi ke-

TildReobisTvis brZola namd-

vilad Rirs.

_ Tu icnobT walenjixis

axlandel deputats? vin aris

axla Tqveni mTavari konkuren-

ti?

_ walenjixis maJoritari

deputati biznesmeni roman fi-

fia, ZiriTadad, ruseTSi moR-

vaweobs da mgoni, kargad qar-

Tulic ki ar icis.

am arCevnebSi ki Cemi konku-

renti levan qardava gaxlavT.

_ cnobili megis qardavas

mogvare yofila.

_ mogvare ki ara, mejvare

da naTesavicaa. masac moskovSi

aqvs gaSlili saqmianoba.

magram mTavari isaa, rom Za-

lovan struturebTan daaxlo-

ebul adamianTan gviwevs konku-

rencia.

raionis dRevandeli gamgebe-

li isic gvarad qardava, faqtob-

rivad, marionetia, magram Sesa-

niSnavad gamosdis adamianebis

`Sewamlva~ amerikuli peplis

sawinaaRmdego saSualebebiT...

me dRes imis ufleba ar

maqvs, restoranSi davpatiJo

axlobeli da xelisufleba

usasyidlod ukanonebs walen-

jixaSi glexebs miwebs. adre

gaekeTebinaT, magram axla

sWirdebaT da akeTeben. daxma-

rebas ugzavnian, SeSas urigeben

da a.S. es CvenTvis Tu akrZa-

lulia, maTTvis nebadarTulia.

_ ra gegmebi gaqvT? ras ga-

akeTebs `qarTuli ocneba~ da

giorgi naWyebia walenjixisT-

vis?

_ daaxloebiT 20-25 Sex-

vedra ukve Catarebuli maqvs.

TiTqmis yvela sofelSi, yvela

ojaxSi Sevdivar, rom gavigo,

ra uWirT, ra ulxinT.

ZiriTadi saprogramo doku-

mentebi `qarTul ocnebas~ da

biZina ivaniSvils aqvs. magram,

cxadia, mec maqvs Cemi gegmebi

da arCevnebSi gamarjvebis Sem-

deg daviwyeb maT ganxorciele-

bas. mimaCnia, rom mesaqonleoba

walenjixaSi erT-erTi priori-

tetuli unda gaxdes, vfiqrob,

Cais kultura isev unda ava-

RorZinoT, meabreSumeoba da

a.S.

gagecinebaT da, dRes iseT

situaciaSi var, rogorSic Ta-

vis droze utu miqava iyo _

samarTlis aRdgenas vapireb wa-

lenjixaSi da rogorc utu mi-

qava ambobda: `koCis koCi~ unda

movspo, kaci unda kacobdes da

yvelam erTiani samarTliT un-

da icxovros.

soflis meurneoba ZiriTadi

prioriteti unda gaxdes rai-

onSi. gasaumjobesebelia inf-

rastruqtura. msoflioSi, al-

baT, arsad ar iqneba iseTi ug-

zooba, rogoric walenjixaSia.

magaliTad, sofeli saCino ram-

denime kilometriT aris daSo-

rebuli raionuli centridan

da saCinomde cxenis gzac ki

aRar aris. soflidan sofelSi

SeuZlebelia manqaniT gadasv-

la. arada, ulamazesia yvelafe-

ri. walenjixaze lamazi bevri

adgili ar iqneba saqarTvelo-

Si, Tavisuflad SemiZlia amis

Tqma.

_ rogor midis winasaarCev-

no procesi?

_ warmoidgineT, rom arc

megona, amdens Tu SevZlebdi,

xalxTan Sexvedrisas vcdilob

bolomde vaCveno am xelisuf-

lebis maxinji saxe. isev Sevdi-

var azartSi, emociebisgan la-

mis cremlebi wamomivides.

xalxs uWirs. sxvanairad arc

SeiZleba.

_ batono gia, Tqven xarT

iuristi, samarTlismcodne. Tq-

veni azriT, SeiZleba ka-

nonierad `nacionalur

moZraobas~ arCevnebSi

mougo?

_ diax, marTlac Zne-

lia. es adamianebi saxel-

mwifoebriobanas TamaSo-

ben da erTobian. biujeti

gadaabares e.w. ndobis

jgufs, romlis Semadgen-

lobaSi bokeria, kublaS-

vili da maTnairebi arian

da Cven gvaiZuleben amaT

gamovucxadoT ndoba.

demokratiuli brZo-

la amaTTan, ra Tqma un-

da, Znelia. aq arc fsev-

dodemokratiaa, arc sru-

li totalitarizmi. usa-

marTloba zeimobs dRes

saqarTveloSi. saqarTvelos

Tavis droze hqonda mowinave

evropuli samarTali. adamianis

uflebebi maqsimalurad iyo

daculi. dRes racaa, yvela

vxedavT.

mokled, yvelas gvesmis,

rac xdeba irgvliv, magram uam-

ravi SemTxvevaa bolo xanebSi,

roca `nacionalebidanac~ ki

gadmovidnen `qarTul ocneba-

Si~. mas Semdeg, rac ivaniSvil-

ma gamoacxada, arc erTi pro-

fesionali umuSevari ar darCe-

bao, xalxs moexsna SiSi. zogi-

erTi Cumad meubneba, mxars

`qarTul ocnebas~ vuWero.

brZola iqneba, magram gamarjve-

ba gardauvalia...

iranda kalandaZe

gagecinebaT, magramdRes iseT situaciaSi

var, rogorc Tavisdroze utu miqava iyo...

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albT gsmeniaT aseTi anekdo-

ti: siyvarulis xasiaTze mo-

sulma marom mixo rom vera-

friT gaaRviZa, yurSi Cahyvira:

_ `ade, kaco, ade, mteri mog-

vadga, mteri, gaiRviZe Se sasik-

vdile! `mteriooo?~ _ gaaxila

Tvali mixam da baliSisken wai-

Ro xeli yviriliT: `am Sah

abasma xo gaatraka saqme, xmalo,

ar mimtyunoo~ da fexze wamox-

ta mterTan Sesarkineblad, mag-

ram mteri maincdamainc Tavis

saZinebelSi rom ver aRmoaCina,

dawva da xvrinva amouSva.

dResac asea kaxeTSi, miuxe-

davad Tavs damtydari aTasi

`nacionaluri~ Wirisa, buneb-

rivi kataklizmebisa da aoxre-

bul-gaxriokebuli yofisa,

`mixa~ mters anu maincdamainc

garedan mosul dampyrobel

Sah abass, xilulad rom ver

xedavs, mSvidad sZinavs da ama-

sobaSi samSoblo uverandeba!

metic, `mixas~, imitom rom gu-

lalalia, imitom rom `Sinau-

ri~ dampyrobeli ver warmoud-

genia, imitom, rom sakuTar

ezo-mamulSi TavCarguli ebrZ-

vis miwas da sarCo-sabadeblis-

Tvis mudmivad Sromobs, SesaZ-

loa, arc adardebdes globa-

luri kataklizmebi, magram _

odes yofila kaxelebi, mebr-

Zolebi da amayi kaxelebi ase

TavCaqindruli da ase damcire-

bulebi xmas rom ar iRebdnen

da sakuTar naWuWSi iketebod-

nen Slegi `mefis~ Semxedvare?!

sityva `Slu~ _ ka-xeTSi giJs, cets, su-lels, da caltvinaWkuamxiaruls niSnavsda vis vgulisxmob amSemTxvevaSi, adviligasagebia, ara?

ar vici, risi bralia, mag-

ram am bolo 20 wlis ganmav-

lobaSi kaxelebi maincdamainc

ver daikvexnian politikuri

aqtivobiT, gnebavT, aqcia, _ ma-

nifestaciebze siaruliT da

gnebavT saarCevno cieb-cxele-

bisas, es SesaZloa, imis bra-

lic aris, rom kaxelebi, zoga-

dad, dinji, momTmeni, mofiqra-

li xalxia da `gasci, Tqveni

dedac~ _ is Tqma urCevniaT,

umravles SemTxvevaSi, magram

maTma siCumem, maTma TviTnebo-

bam da zogjer Tavis motyue-

bis mdgomareobam, amasobaSi

mTeli kaxeTi monebad rom aq-

cia, ra hqvia amas?

mec kaxeli, ufro sworad

ki qiziyeli, ubatono kuTxis

Svili var, mixaaa! me Tu ar me-

Sinia, me Tu ar vuqindrav Tavs

saakaSvil-merabiSvil-adeiSvi-

lebs, Sen ra dagemarTa da ra-

tom iTmen amdens?

ageee, Senma siCumemra damarTa RvTism-Sobel mariams msxal-gorSi, xedam? sisxliscremlebiT atirdada gonze mainc ver mo-giyvana! vazis samamu-le rqa gadagiWraRmerTma. Cemi sisx-lis Rirsi ara xaro,mainc Cumada xar?! mi-gilew-mogilewa ze-daSe, bani, Weri, saqo-neli, sarCo ar dagi-tova da arc hkiTxu-lob, ratom gagimetaase? imitom gagimeta,rom ilias yvarelSida erekles TelavSi,taxti eSmaks daudgida Seni siCumiT ukmevgundruks mis xangrZ-livobas, gaige?

aba, daakvirdiT kaxelebo,

rodis mere gangirisxdaT ufa-

li ase?

aseTi setyva, aseTi qariS-

xali, aseTi wyaldidobebi gax-

sovT odesme?

mTeli Cemi bavSvoba mesmo-

da aRrialebuli xevis xma la-

godexSi, magram erTi metriT

ar gadmosula mdinare arc

gzaze da arc vinmes ezoSi.

setyvac minaxavs da qaric, mag-

ram qariSxali da isic mTebiT

garSemortymul kaxeTSi, ara-

sodes msmenia. cidan wamosul

yinvis lodebze xom saerTod

zedmetia saubari da isic iv-

lissa da agvistos dasawyisSi!

maxsovs, rTvelis win, setyva

Tu wamoayrida, bebiaCemi maro,

sacers gaitanda gareT: `ase

gaceri, ase gaceri da wvimad

aqcieo~ _ exveweboda RmerTs

da Tqven warmoidgineT, ramde-

nime wuTSi setyvac klebulob-

da, wvimad iqceoda da Wirna-

xulsac arafers uSavebda. mag-

ram aq es ki ar aris mTavari,

mTavari isaa, rom stiqiasTan

brZolaSi, rwmena iyo mTavari

da dRes ki kaxelebis umrav-

lesobis rwmenac, RmerTic da

iesoc _ saakaSvilTan aqvT ga-

igivebuli, rac araTu mkrexe-

loba, aramed yvela Wiris sa-

Tavea, gamigeT?

ro dalayunobs mand da

_ `ui, miSa Sen ki genac-valeo~ _ eubnebiT, ma-rTla sul gamoSl-uvdiT, Tu raSia saq-me?

iqneb dagaviwydaT, rodis

mere dagerxaT magrad? `nwu,

nwu, miwaa mosaxnavi, 30 lari-

an vauCerebs dagirigebTo, ge-

yofaT sawvavSio~_ roca giTx-

raT Tqvenma miSam, ratom ar

miubrundiT da ratom ar

uTxariT, rom 30 lariT verc

miwas moxnavT da verc mtris

dedas mot...vT? anda, ratom

ver gaubedeT, geTqvaT isic,

rom mezobel azerbaijanamde,

e.i. 50-60 kilometrSi `mazu-

Ti~ Calisfrad SeiZleba geyi-

daT, magram misi `nac.tamoJni-

kebi~ gadmotanis nebas ar gaZ-

levdnen da Tu mainc moisur-

vebdiT gadmotanas, garTmevd-

nen da Rvridnen?

anda, mTelma kaxeTma ro

icodiT, petre ciskariSvilis

biznesis ambavi da isic, rom

icodiT _ azerbaijanSi iafad

nayidi benzin-mazuTiT, mis biz-

ness rom azaralebdiT, ratom

ver amoiReT xma da ratom ar

SesCivleT Tqvens miSas maSin,

roca didi zarzeimiT daiare-

boda Tqvensas?

lagodexSi, mdinare alaz-

nis pirze, Wiauris tye rom

gagikafaT ciskariSvil-adeiS-

vilma, sul muxis, wiflis,

wablisa da cacxvis xeebi rom

gadagiWraT morebad da ucxoe-

Tis gzas rom gauyenes, ratom

ar iRebdiT xmas?

tyesa da RreSi, mTasa da

barSi, Sinagan saqmeTa saminis-

tros brakonierebi, irems,

Rors, jixvs, kakabsa Tu xox-

bebs erTianad rom anadgurebd-

nen, ratom ucqerdiT Soridan

da sdumdiT?

mere es gaCexili tyeebi

alazanma rom datbora da sa-

erTod daaWaoba iqauroba, yve-

la jerze rom diddeboda da

mihqonda Tqveni saxnav-saTese-

bi, ratom ver bedavdiT imis

Tqmas, rom _ am yvelafris mi-

zezi, saakaSvili da misi gu-

bernatorebi iyvnen da ara adi-

debuli alazani, romelic

sul moedineboda kaxeTSi?

kacooo, riT verSeigneT, rom yvarel-Si, gurjaanSi, lago-dexSi, Telavsa da ax-metaSi tyeebis Cexvamgamoiwvia es ubedure-bebi, `amaTi~ mucle-bis gaxeTqvam imsxver-pla sofelic, qala-qic da tyec?

gaxsovT, datborili Wale-

bidan, moWrili xeebisgan dar-

Cenili morebis gamotanis uf-

lebasac rom ar gaZlevdnen?

isic gaixseneT, `SeSis bi-

leTebs~ rodis girigeben, no-

embris bolos, xom? noemberSi,

talaxsa da wvimaSi, SuSis ty-

idan gamotana rogoria, ha? e.i.

ra gamodis?

es Tqveni `xelisufleba~

Tan gexmarebaT da Tan ara,

xom?

axla es tyeebic rom viRac

gadamTielebze gayida, maS, ra

fexebi unda SeukeToT `feCeb-

Si~ wels?

kargi, gaziT gaTbebiT, mag-

ram arc samsaxuri, arc miwi-

dan Semosavali da arc arafe-

ri xom ar gagaCniaT, kaxelebo,

azerbaijanul `sokars~ fuls

riT gadauxdiT? riT iyidiT

SeSas, romelic ukve dRes

600-700 lari Rirs? adre

Rvino-aryiT mainc iqarvebdiT

dards, magram axla Rvinoc

rom aRara gaqvT, `zavodobebi~

rom aRar geqnebaT ori-sami we-

liwadi, ra geSvelebaT?

me getyviT rac geSvelebaT

_ male yvarelSi, rTvelSi Ta-

vis mamulSi, miSa Roris mwva-

debs rom daatrialebs, sawna-

xelidan da aryis qvabidan gad-

mosul Rvino-arays rom gadah-

kravs, Soridan uyureT nerwy-

vmoreulebma da erTxmad Se-

mosZaxeT: `miSa, Sen ki genacva-

le, gavla- gamovlaSiao!~

vidre miSas dakrulze buq-

naobT da gubernator RviniaS-

vilis Tvalebis brialis geSi-

niaT, ver xedavT, rom kaxele-

bis deda-taZar alaverdsac

wyali miadga Ziris gamosaTx-

relad?

ver xedavT, rom erekles

Telavi erTianad moiTxara da

daingra?

ratom? ratom da kidev er-

Txel gimeorebT:

eSmaks scemT Tay-vans da misi taxtigidgaT Suagul kaxeT-Si, kerZod ki yvarel-Si _ saakaSvilis ad-gil-mamulSi,

xolo `miSa gviyvarxar~, am

sityvebiT aZlierebT satanas

da isic yoveli aseTi SeZaxi-

lis Semdeg, kiskisiT gpasu-

xobT: `ara, es me miyvarxarT

da Zalian meamayebiT~-o.

kaxelebo! Sah abasi xmliT

modioda Cvenze da ver gvimor-

Cilebda! saqarTveloSi Semo-

suli yvela dampyrobeli,

Tqveni xmlebis msxverpli xde-

boda da saqarTvelos fari,

aki, amitomac giwodaT xalxma!

magram,

dRes xom xedavTrogor motrialdaazri? `kaxelebi mTav-robaSi TiTqmis argvyavs, ubralod isi-ni karieristebi ararian da imitom~ _ Ca-ikiskisa Sluim stiqi-

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.netSSeemmooggvviieerrTTddiiTT FACEBOOK-zze

Sah abasi

kaxelebo, Tqven sul xom argamoSluvdiT, Sah abass kaxeTSiTqveni xeliT rom udgamT taxts?

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9saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.

idan ramdenime dReSi, roca `xalxis da-saxmareblad~ Caifrina ramdenime saaTi.es fraza ki, Cveneburad, e.i. kaxuradiciT ras niSnavda? kaxelebi mTavrobaSimosasvlelad ar ibrZvian, imitom, romgamoy...bulebi arian da qveynis bedicy...ze hkidiao, gaigeT?

arada, amas ro is geubnebaT, visac es qveyana mar-

Tla erT adgilze hkidia, visTvisac RmerTi, eklesia

da ieso, mxolod winasaarCevno lazRandarobaa, visT-

visac kaxelebis mier sisxliT morwyuli mTa da ve-

li mxolod `warsulis bneli gadmonaSTia~ da visT-

visac zogadad qarTuli eTnosi mxolod saarCevno

xmebia _ ar unda gadmoiRo fexebiT?

ras SescicinebT pirSi da ratom gibrundebaT az-

ri misi wasvlisTanave, roca ambobT: amis dedac

mov...nT, magram Tavs zemoT Zala ara gvaqvso?

jooo! kaxeli da egeTi orproWoba? Saigne da da-

imaxsovre, Tavs zemoT RmerTia, dabla kidev is miwa,

romelic SenisTanebs ki ar dautovebiaT, aramed er-

TpirSekrulma mebaxtrionelebma dagitoves da azrze

modi, ra?

kargiT, aiReT is 1500-1200 da 500 lari, ianvri-

dan Tu dascaldaT, 1000 lariani vauCeric gamaarT-

viT, magram mere? mere xom sul Tqveni kisridan ama-

iReben zarals? age, biZinam 80 milioni CaujibaT,

xalxs Sesabamisi daxmareba gauwieTo, magram dainaxeT,

sad wavida es fuli? sad wavida da Sluis biWebis

jibeebSi, rogorc `damsaxurebuli premiebi~, kaxele-

bisaTvis gaweuli samsaxuris gamo.

amis Semdeg, kidev gikvirT, aTasi ubedureba ratom

dagatexaT RmerTma Tavs?

mTel saqarTveloSi imdeni eklesia da imdeni ci-

xe-koSki arsad ar aris, ramdenic kaxeTSia da amiT,

iciT, ra minda giTxraT?

eSmaks maTraxi droze gadahkariT daqveyanaze ifiqreT, Torem `kriSaaxdili~saakaSvili verc Sifers da verc kramitsver dagixuravT xarisxianad, verc gzebsdagigebT da verc `samuSao adgilebs~mogiZebniT, Tavisi `dasaqmebis~ saminis-troTi!

ratom? ratom da imitom, rom mamali viria da

rogorc CvenSi ityvian xolme, `mamali viri da ma-

keee?~ ai, egrea magis saqme da imitom, gaigeeT?

Zvirfaso kaxelebo! Cven odiTganve `Cakrulos~ da

ganieri `mravalJamieris~ momRerali kuTxe varT!

odiTganve miwasTan da dampyrobelTan meomari kuTxe

varT da dRes, roca viRacam eWvqveS daayena Cveni sab-

rZolo SesaZlebloba `hkaT~ magaT, rame ro ar See-

SaloT da sul Tav-pirze daalewo is bani, rogorc

Tavis droze muxran batons daalewes gmirma da amay-

ma kaxelebma!

ase Tu ar izamT, verc xils dadgamT godriT,

verc dekeuls gazrdiT da verc kalos galewavT ya-

nebSi!

da erTic... Sah abasi ukve didi xania ka-xeTSi daboginobs da erTianad aoxrebsmandaurobas! dRes mas sxva saxeli hqvia,sxvanairi iaraRi upyria xelT da cxenismagivrad `vertaliotiT~ dahqris Tqve-ni baR-venaxebis Tavze! ara gjeraT? kar-gi maSin, Tu Cemi ar gjeraT, aixedeT ze-viT, gaixedeT gardigardmo da ueWveladdainaxavT...

irine gogosaSvili

_ saqarTvelo aris Tu ara ukeTesi qve-

yana, vidre rva wlis winaT iyo? _ am

kiTxvas, rogorc ritorikul kiTxvas ise

svamen xan saakaSvili, xan ugulava, xan me-

rabiSvili, Tumca kiTxvis ritorikuli pa-

Tosis miuxedavad, guli ar uTmenT da pa-

suxsac TviTon moayoleben xolme: _ miu-

xedavad imisa, rom jer kidev bevri ram

aris gasakeTebeli, saqarTvelo dRes uke-

Tesi qveyanaa, vidre rva wlis winaT iyoo.

imedi unda gagicruoT, pativcemulo

nacionalebo _ saqarTvelo dRes ukeTesi

ki ara gacilebiT uaresi qveyanaa rva wlis

winandel saqarTvelosTan SedarebiT.

ar gjeraT? axlave Sevecdebi dagaje-

roT...

rva wlis winaT saqarTveloSi mxo-

lod 5 000-mde patimari iyo, dRes es

ricxvi 23 000-s aRwevs.

rva wlis winaT e.w. siRaribis

zRvars qvemoT mcxovreb adamianTa ricxvi

300 000-s ar aRemateboda, dRes qarTvel

proletarTa raodenoba milionamde gai-

zarda.

rva wlis winaT afxazeTi da e.w.

samxreT oseTi separatistul regionebad

iwodeboda, dRes orives damoukidebeli,

suverenuli saxelmwifo hqvia.

rva wlis winaT cocxlebi iyvnen is

axalgazrdebi, romlebic 2008 wlis ag-

vistos omSi daiRupnen.

rva wlis winaT afxazeTidan dev-

nilTa armias samaCablodan devnilebi dae-

matnen da saqarTveloSi devnilTa axali

`getoebi~ gaCnda.

rva wlis winaT cocxlebi iyvnen

axalgazrdebi, romlebic am xelisuflebam

quCebSi upatrono ZaRlebiviT daxoca.

rva wlis winaT jer kidev ar iyo

2007 wlis noemberi, 2011 wlis sisxlia-

ni 26 maisi da sxva avadsaxsenebeli Tari-

Rebi, roca xelisufleba sakuTar xalxs

gaugonari sisastikiT uswordeboda.

rva wlis winaT saqarTvelos mo-

saxleobis garkveul nawilSi jer kidev

cocxlobda imedi, rom `vardebis revolu-

ciiT~ mosuli axalgazrda xelisufleba

aRadgenda teritoriul mTlianobas, aR-

mofxvrida umuSevrobas da siRatakes, Seq-

mnida axal samuSao adgilebs.

sul male es imedi mokvda, masTan er-

Tad mokvda telekompania `imedi~ da misi

damfuZnebeli badri patarkaciSvili.

rva wlis winaT naklebi iyo SiSi

da gacilebiT meti iyo demokratia.

rva wlis winaT arsebobda sasamar-

Tlo da arsebobdnen mosamarTleebi dRes

arc sasamarTloa da arc mosamarTleebi _

isini prokurorebis nebis aRmsrulebel

Tojinebad iqcnen.

rva wlis winaT arsebobda konsti-

tucia, rogorc qarTuli saxelmwifos

yvelaze mTavari da wmidaTawminda doku-

menti. dRes es dokumenti gaupatiurebuli

da daCexilia.

rva wlis winaT saqarTvelo imiTac

iyo ukeTesi qveyana, rom Tqven, `naciona-

lebi~ Raribebi iyaviT, dRes ki miliarde-

bi iSoveT da am miliardebiT cdilobT Za-

lauflebis samudamod SenarCunebas...

ase rom rva wlis winandeli saqarTve-

lo gacilebiT ukeTesi qveyana iyo, vidre

rva wlis Semdgomdroindeli saqarTveloa.

giorgi gamezardaSvili

saqarTvelo dRes gacilebiT uaresi

qveyanaa, vidre rva wlis winaT iyo

rva wlis winaT da rva wlis Semdeg

mixeil saakaSvili

kaxeTSi

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`̀saerTo gazeTs~ esaubreba

iuristi koba kapanaZe

_ batono koba, marTalia,

saprezidento arCevnebamde jer

kidev droa, magram yvela vxe-

davT, mixeil saakaSvili daCqa-

rebuli tempebiT `aSenebs~ qala-

qebs, aaxlebs taZrebs... mas

surs, istoriaSi meore `aRmaSe-

neblis~ saxeliT Sevides.

_ gacveTili gaxda ukve ba-

toni saakaSvilis frazebi, rom

man aaSena Tbilisi, siRnaRi, an

Tundac baTumi. Cven yvelam kar-

gad viciT, vin ra aaSena, visi

fuliT da ris fasad keTdeboda

es yvelaferi wlebis ganmavlo-

baSi. viciT, rom prezidents am

procesSi umeteswilad mxolod

lentis gamWrelis funqcia hqo-

nda. Tundac ganaxlebuli baTu-

mi, romelic mec Zalian momwons,

vaRiaroT, rom ar iZleva aRmSe-

neblobaze yelmoRerebuli saub-

ris saSualebas.

minda mivmarTo mixe-il saakaSvils: batonoprezidento, roca aRm-Seneblobaze saubr-obT, ar dagaviwydeT,rom Tqven, Tqveni ini-ciativiTa da gauazre-beli politikiT mxo-lod werovani da go-rovani `aaSeneT~ da esgaxlavT Tqveni mmarT-velobis erTgvari sim-boloc. Tqveni prezi-dentobisa da mxedarT-

mTavrobis logikuridagvirgvineba. samwu-xaroa, magram Tqveniepoqis saqarTveloaucileblad Seva is-toriaSi ara rogorcTamarisa da daviTisepoqa, rogorc es TqvenTqvensave iluziebSigaqvT warmodgenili,aramed, rogorc wero-vanisa da gorovanis sa-qarTvelo.

meore mxriv, marTla ar mes-

mis, ratom ar reagirebs ufro

mwvaved qarTuli sazogadoeba

qsenofobiur gancxadebebze. ra-

tom ewinaaRmdegebian sxvadasxva

aRmsareblobis sakulto nagebo-

bebis aSenebas. am qveyanaSi xom

imdeni sinagoga, meCeTi da marT-

lmadidebluri eklesia unda

aigos, ramdenis saWiroeba da Se-

saZlebloba iqneba.

prezidents Zalian cota

dro darCa, magram miuxedavad

amisa, mas jer kidev aqvs SesaZ-

lebloba, bolo gadawyvetileba

mainc miiRos iseTi, rom saqarT-

velos saxelmwifos ganviTare-

bis Sansi sabolood ar mouspos.

mxolod misi rogorc xelisuf-

lebidan, aseve Zalauflebidan

wasvla iqneba SesaZlebloba sa-

qarTvelos ukeTesi momavlisT-

vis.

_ saakaSvilma mmarTvelobis

vadis amowurvisTanave unda da-

tovos prezidentis posti _

ase fiqrobs, savaraudod, saqar-

Tvelos mosaxleobis naxevarze

meti. Tumca, naklebad SesaZle-

belia, magram mainc masac undo-

des wasvla. Tqveni azriT, iqneb

aqvs valdebulebebi amerikasTan,

romlis xelSewyobiT gaprezi-

dentebuladac miiCnevs zogier-

Ti, an ruseTTan an sxva rome-

lime politikur wresTan

ucxoeTSi?

_ Zalian siRrmiseul rameebs

mekiTxebiT.

jer erTi, savalaloa da

tragedia, saqarTvelos mosaxle-

obis garkveuli nawili mainc Tu

fiqrobs, rom qveynis prezi-

dents, SesaZloa, sxvebis winaSe

ufro meti valdebulebebi hqon-

des, vidre sakuTari amomrCevle-

bis mimarT.

meorec, ara mgonia, miT ume-

tes, amerikaSi, garkveuli lo-

bisturi wreebis garda vinme ij-

des da tvins icxelebdes imaze

fiqriT, rogor datovon saakaS-

vili saqarTvelos xelisufle-

baSi.

ai, sul sxvaa ruseTis sa-

kiTxi. bolo dros yvela vxe-

davT, rom miuxedavad ucenzuro

politikuri ritorikisa, TiT-

qos garkveuli Zvrebi SeiniSneba

rusul-qarTul saxelisuflebo

urTierTobebSi. Tundac is ga-

vixsenoT, 2008 wlis ambebTan

dakavSirebiT putinma axlaxan ra

gancxadeba gaakeTa. amiT xom man,

praqtikulad, saakaSvilis momx-

reebs misi gancxadebis interp-

retaciis saSualeba misca. am

logikiT, Tuki qveynis SigniT

politikuri oponentebi saakaS-

vils adanaSaulebdnen cxinvalSi

sabrZolo moqmedebebis dawyeba-

Si da xelisufleba amas realur

kontrarguments ver upirispi-

rebda, ruseTis prezidentis am

e.w. „aRiarebiT“ es Tema TiTqos-

da daixura.

erTi Sexed-viT, gamodis,batonma pu-tinma am gan-cxadebiT ba-ton saakaSvi-ls bolo sa-maSvelo rgo-li gadmoug-do misive op-o n e n t e b i skritikisganTavis dasaca-vad.

man es gancxadeba xom marT-

lacda saakaSvilisTvis yvelaze

saWiro, metad kritikul dros,

ise gaakeTa, rom erTi SexedviT

ruseTis xelisuflebas amis po-

litikuri saWiroeba arc hqo-

nia. amitomac qmnis es gancxade-

ba mometebuli eWvebis safuZ-

vels.

_ anu saakaSvili da putini

SeTanxmebulad moqmedeben?

_ saqme isaa, rom aucilebe-

li araa adamianTan raime saxis

kontaqti iqonio, masTan urTi-

erTsasargeblo politikur Ta-

maSebSi rom Sexvide da raime

tipis rCevebi misce. savaraudod,

am tipis urTierTobis iluzias

uqmnis axla batoni putini pre-

zident saakaSvils. iqneb ruse-

Tis imediT gabedos da xelisuf-

lebaSi darCes. magram saakaSvi-

li araa iseTi kaci politikuri

TamaSebis konstitucia ar esmo-

des. wesiT, man kargad unda

uwyodes, rom Tu igi xelisuf-

lebis mSvidobian gadacemas ar

moaxdens, ris Sesaxebac batonma

obamam pirdapir da Riad ga-

nacxada misive TandaswrebiT, ar-

Cevnebis damTavrebidan meore

dResve araTu saqarTvelos me-

gobrebs, TviT batoni saakaSvi-

lis mcirericxovan lobisteb-

sac, Tundac dasavleTSi, aRar

eqnebaT aranairi argumenti, rom

formalurad mainc isaubron

qarTul demokratiaze.

es, Tavis mxriv, niS-navs imas, rom dasavle-Tisa da civilizebulisamyarosgan zurgSeq-ceuli saqarTvelo,ruseTis mZlavri sam-xedro-politikuri ma-nqanis pirispir mar-todmarto aRmoCnde-ba.

es baton putins, romelmac

bolo kvlevebiT kidev ufro da-

karga Sida reitingi, saSualebas

miscems saqarTveloze axali ga-

marjvebis gziT meore sunTqva

gaixsnas da saakaSvils Seusru-

los danapirebi erTi adgiliT

dakidebis Sesaxeb. mokled rom

vTqvaT, Tu saqarTvelom batoni

saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi da-

rCena ar dauSva da baton pu-

tins, romelsac haeriviT sWir-

deba mtris xati, rogorc yu-

radRebis gadasatanad, aseve axa-

li gamarjvebis misaRwevad, amis

saSualeba ar misca. maSin ruse-

Tis xelisufleba veRar moaxer-

xebs samxedro konfliqtis mis

sazRvrebs gareT gatanas, ro-

gorc es 2008-Si moxda da Cven

didi albaTobiT samSvidobos ga-

valT.

magram davuSvaT Secdomis

albaTobac. axlaxan vTqviT, rom

saakaSvils, SesaZloa, putini am

tipis gancxadebebiT, urTierTsa-

sargeblo politikuri TamaSis

iluzias uqmnides da saqarTve-

los prezidentma ar gaiTvalis-

winos sxva argumentebi, daije-

ros is, rom TiTqos Ceni mezo-

beli qveynis xelisufals dasav-

leTTan saubrisas damatebiT ar-

gumentad sWirdebodes misi xe-

lisuflebaSi darCena – martivi

logikiT: ratomaa xelisufleba-

Si dabrunebuli putini arade-

mokrati da avtoritari, maSin,

roca xelisuflebaSi darCenili

„agresori“ saakaSvili jer ki-

dev demokratiis Suqurad iTv-

leba?! Sesabamisad, Tu prezi-

denti saakaSvili oTxi wlis

winandel agvistos gakveTilebs

ar gaiTvaliswinebs, kargad ar

gaixsenebs, Tu ras eubnebodnen

amerikelebi, ar gaiTavisebs imas,

rom putini, Tundac porovnuli

Tvisebebidan gamomdinare, masTan

ara urTierTsasargeblo, aramed

mxolod calmxrivad sasargeblo

politikur TamaSebSi Seva, ar

gaiTvaliswinebs ruseTis prezi-

dentis wina profesias da amas

argumentad ar CaTvlis, Tu isev

wamoegeba provokacias, swored

es iqneba misi mxridan daSvebu-

li im tipis strategiuli Sec-

doma, romelic, rbilad rom

vTqvaT, misi karieris katast-

rofulad dasrulebas ganapiro-

bebs.

amitomac Cvens qve-yanas sxva arCevani araaqvs. an xdeba xelisuf-lebis mSvidobianadgadabareba da saqarT-velos mimarT grZel-deba dasavluri mxar-daWera, an daaxloe-

biT viTardeba Cvensmier zemoTnaxsenebiscenari, rac ara mxo-lod prezident saa-kaSvilisTvis iqnebakatastrofuli, ara-med daasrulebs qar-Tul saxelmwifoebri-obas.

am yvelafris Semdeg „nuras

ukacravad“ xelisuflebas aravis

davuTmobo, rac ufro xmamaRla

iyvirebs batoni saakaSvili, es

mis naTqvams ufro met damaje-

reblobas SesZens, viTom?! aqvs

mas sxva arCevani?! ra Tqma unda,

ara, da es man SesaniSnavad icis.

amitomac ukve saxeze gvaqvs xe-

lisuflebis gadacemis TiTqmis

yvela simptomi, Tu es misi mxri-

dan ganxorcielebuli strategi-

uli simulacia ar gaxlavT. Tu

es ase ar aris, ratom Sevida

prezidenti da mmarTveli poli-

tikuri gundi Tavidanve „qar-

Tul ocnebasTan“ im tipis po-

litikur orTabrZolaSi, rome-

lic imTaviTve naTeli iyo, rom

ara mxolod amomrCevlebSi ar

gazrdida “nacionaluri moZrao-

bis“ mimarT ndobas, aramed civi-

lizebuli da progresuli dasav-

leTis guliswyromasac aucileb-

lad gamoiwvevda. es xom apriori

cnobili unda yofiliyo maTTvis.

ar SeeZloT umtkivneulo poli-

tikuri svlebiTa da samarTlia-

ni gzebiT daebalansebinaT koa-

licia?! –ra Tqma unda, SeeZloT!

amisTvis mxolod farTod gaxe-

lili Tvalebi iyo saWiro da

ara politikuri urTierTobebis

piradSi gadatana. maSin ratom

ar gaakeTes es? amitomac vambob,

prezidentis gancxadebebis miuxe-

davad, saxezea xelisuflebis ga-

dabarebis TiTqmis yvela niSani.

Sesabamisad, mmarTveli partiisa

da xelisuflebis warmomadgenel

Cems Tanamoqalaqeebs ki vurCev:

Tu politikur momavalze ar

ifiqreben da gunds ar datove-

ben, maindamainc usamarTlo da

miT umetes ukanono brZanebebs

nu Seasruleben, Zalian male ka-

nonisa da marTlmsajulebis wi-

naSe martodmartoni, pirispir

rom ar aRmoCndnen.

roca faraonebs mar-

xaven, msaxurebsac

Tan Caayoleben xol-

me, es tradicia Zve-

li egviptidan modis

da ukeTesia, am ri-

tuals rac ufro

naklebi ubralo mok-

vdavi Seewireba.

_ e.i. Tqveni az-

riT, saakaSvils was-

vlis garda sxva ar-

Cevani ar aqvs?

_ ki, aqvs kidev

erTi arCevani _ mo-

emzados ara premie-

robisa da parlamen-

tis Tavmjdomareo-

bisTvis, aramed, ro-

gorc erTxel ukve

gamovTqviT eWvi amis

Sesaxeb, wavides aWa-

ris avtonomiuri

respublikis meTau-

rad. kargad davak-

virdeT, igi swore-

dac amisTvis xom ar emzadeba?!

raRa Tqma unda, im politikuri

ganlagebis pirobebSi, rac, sava-

raudod, momavalSi gvelodeba,

amis daSvebac ar SeiZleba. es,

daaxloebiT, igive iqneba, bavSvs

asanTi mivceT da saTamaSod Ti-

vis zvinTan marto davtovoT.

iranda kalandaZe

kargad daimaxsovros saakaSvilis garemocvam: roca faraons marxaven, msaxurebsac Tan Caayoleben xolme...

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11#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

vveessaauubbrreebbiiTT kkooaalliicciiaa `̀qqaarr-

TTuullii ooccnneebbiiss~~ wwaarrmmoommaaddggee-

nneellss,, qqaallbbaattoonn guguli ma-RraZes

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo gguugguullii,, aarriiss

TTuu aarraa aarraaTTaannaabbaarrii ppiirroobbeebbii

wwiinnaassaaaarrCCeevvnnoodd,, xxeelliissuufflleebbaa-

ssaa ddaa ooppoozziicciiaass SSoorriiss??

_ naTlad Cans, rom winasa-

arCevno pirobebi sruliad

araTanabaria xelisuflebasa

da opozicias Soris, Tumca,

SegaxsenebT, rom opoziciaSi

vgulisxmob `qarTul ocnebas~

da ara romelime sxva fsevdo-

opoziciur partias, romelnic

saerTod ar Canan arCevnebamde,

xolo arCevnebis dros sokoe-

biviT amovlen xolme. me sul

mikvirs, ra finansebiT da ada-

mianuri resursebiT arseboben

isini wlidan wlamde, rodesac

Cvens `qalTa partias~, rom-

lis sapatio prezidentic me

dResac var da sakmaod mxar-

damWerebic gvyavs, arCevnebSi

monawileoba damoukideblad

gviZneldeboda yovelTvis. cxa-

dia, rom aseT e.w. `opozici-

ur~ partiebs `kvebavs~ xeli-

sufleba, romelic maT iyenebs

namdvili opoziciis winaaRm-

deg sxvadasxvagvarad. ZiriTa-

dad, maT avaleben namdvili

opoziciis lanZRvas. araTana-

bari pirobebi ar aris is, rom

`qarTuli ocnebis~ winaaRmdeg

saarCevno kodeqsSi Seitanes

cvlilebebi, kontrolis pala-

tis mier ukanono dajarimebe-

bi, gadaadgilebis SezRudva,

saofise Tu RonisZiebebisaTvis

farTobebis daqiravebis SeuZ-

lebloba, partiuli embleme-

bis damzadebaSi xelis SeSla,

mxardamWerebisa da wevrebis

daSineba-daWera da a.S. aTasg-

vari ukanono Tu usamarTlo

kanonebis gamoyeneba xdeba imi-

saTvis, rom `qarTul ocnebas~

moqmedebis saSualeba ar mie-

ces. Tumca mTeli es saxeli-

suflo qmedebani male fuWi

aRmoCndeba, radganac miuxeda-

vad winasaarCevno araTanabari

pirobebisa, `qarTuli ocnebis~

warmatebuli saarCevno svla

grZeldeba. arc imas aqvs seri-

ozuli mniSvneloba, ra nom-

riT miiRebs is arCevnebSi mo-

nawileobas, mTavari aris ga-

marjveba.

araTanabari pirobebisa da

saarCevno garemos SeqmnisaTvis

xelisuflebam gada-

keta ara marto iva-

niSvilis finansuri

wyaroebi, aramed Se-

ecada mTlianad da-

ebloka `qarTuli

ocnebis~ saarCevno

kampania imiT, rom

waarTva ufleba ri-

giT adamianebs Tavi-

si finansuri SesaZ-

leblobebis farg-

lebSi mxari daeWi-

raT maTTvis sasur-

veli politikuri

ZalisaTvis, rac de-

mokratiis anabanaa.

Tumca, xelisufleba

verafers uxerxebs `qarTuli

ocnebis~ mTavar kapitals _

xalxs.

ase, rom, xelisuflebis

mcdelobam, gadaeketaT finan-

suri resursi _ Sedegi jer

ver gamoiRo, rac Seexeba

`Taflis kveris~ gamoyenebas,

esec gaZneldeba maTTvis, rad-

ganac xelisuflebas aRar aqvs

amdeni finansuri resursi.

aRar ician rogor gaaRatakon

xalxi da waarTvan ukanaskneli

kapikebi. marto satransporto

jarimebiT wels xalxisgan

amoRebuli aqvT 40 milioni

lari! rTul mdgomareobaSia

jer kidev SemorCenili bizne-

si. marTalia, isini mxolod

xelisuflebis axloblebi ari-

an, magram maTac seriozuli

xarjebis gaweva uwevT im gaz-

rdili moTxovnilebebis dasak-

mayofileblad, rasac maT xe-

lisufleba sTxovs.

mogelaZis samsaxuri `nac-

moZraobis~ mxridan Cadenili

darRvevebisa Tu danaSaulis

mimarT _ brma da yrua!

yovelive zemoTqmulidan

gamomdinare, xelisufleba cd-

ilobs srulad da sruliad

ukanonod gamoiyenos yvela Se-

saZlebloba, raTa saarCevno

upiratesoba mis mxares iyos.

xelisuflebis mxares ar

aris mTavari _ simarTle!

dRes am simarTles gamouCnda

damcveli biZina ivaniSvilis

saxiT.

__ rraa ggaaZZlleevvTT iimmeeddss,, rraa

SSaannssii aaqqvvss `̀ooccnneebbaass~~??

_ `qarTuli ocnebis~ San-

sebi rom realuri ar iyos, am-

dens ki ar inerviulebda xe-

lisufleba? jer marto Sex-

vedrebze mosuli xalxi Cveni

gamarjvebis sawyisi safuZve-

lia. amas daumateT is xalxi,

vinc Sexvedrebze ver midis?

imaT xom `yelSi hyavT amosu-

li~ es xelisufleba, Tqveni

azriT, vis miscemen isini xmas?

yvela wina arCevnebze opo-

ziciis marcxis mTavari mizezi

iyo is, rom `nacmoZraoba~ yo-

velTvis axerxebda im 30 pro-

centi amomrCevlis saarCevno

yuTebTan moyvanas, romelic

misi momxre iyo, mosaxleobis

70 procentidan ki vinc xeli-

suflebis opozicia iyo, mxo-

lod 10 procenti midioda ar-

Cevnebze imitom, rom ar sje-

rodaT gamarjvebis. fiqrobd-

nen da arc Tu usafuZvlod,

rom xelisufleba mainc gaa-

yalbebda arCevnebs.

dRes `qarTul ocnebas~

srulad Seswevs imis Zala,

rom daicvas xalxis xmebi!

__ rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, rraammddeennii

pprroocceennttiiss aaRReebbaass SSeeZZlleebbss aarr-

CCeevvnneebbSSii `̀ooccnneebbaa~~??

_ `qarTuli ocneba~ SeZ-

lebs imas, rom movides umrav-

lesobiT, rom arsebulma xe-

lisuflebam waagos arCevnebi

da dasjerdes im mcire pro-

cents, rac SeiZleba moipovos

calkeuli saarCevno ubnebSi

im adamianebis xmebis xarjze,

romelic samkvdro sasicocx-

lod arian dakavSirebuli

`nacmoZraobasTan~? vimedovneb,

maT eyofaT goniereba, rom Se-

eguon Tavis marcxs, rameTu

xalxis nebas veravin ver

aRudgeba.

__ kkaacciittaaZZiiss `̀ggaabbeerriill~~ ssii-

eebbzzee rraass iittyyvviiTT?? vviiss ddaavvaallee-

bbaass aassrruulleebbss ssiieebbiiss ddaazzuussttee-

bbiiss kkoommiissiiaa??

_ kacitaZis komisias hqon-

da ormagi daniSnuleba: pirve-

li _ dasaCuqreba `axali me-

marjveneebisa~ im RalatisaT-

vis, rac maT Caidines opozici-

uri rvianis mimarT, roca axa-

li memarjveneebis mxridan sa-

erTo formatidan gamosvlam

misca SesaZlebloba xelisuf-

lebas gaeformebina xelSekru-

leba viTomda opoziciasTan sa-

arCevno garemos gaumjobesebis

Sesaxeb, ramac faqtobrivad, Za-

lian dagvaSora saarCevno ga-

remos realuri gaumjobesebi-

sagan da meorec, aseTi komisi-

is SeqmniT miawodes ucxoe-

lebs iluzia imisa, rom apire-

ben saarCevno siis gasworebas.

es yvelaferi gaTvlili

iyo mosaxleobis im nawilzec,

visac jer kidev gulubryvi-

lod sjeraT `axali memarjve-

neebis~ opozicionerobisa da

hqondaT imedi, rom komisia ra-

imes gaasworebda. jer is rad

Rirs, rom miuxedavad imisa,

rom saxelad erqvaT saxelmwi-

fo komisia, masSi muSaobis

msurveli usaTuod unda yofi-

liyo an gamxdariyo `axali me-

marjveneebis~ partiis wevri!

amomrCevelTa siebis dazus-

teba ar warmoadgens xelisuf-

lebisaTvis aranair siZneles,

rom maT gaaCndeT amisi neba!

maT aqvT yvela monacemi sxva-

dasxva dros arCevnebSi rea-

lurad monawileobisa, qveyni-

dan gasulebisa, gardacvlile-

bisa, sacxovrebeli adgilis

Secvlisa.

dRevandeli `gaberili sie-

bi~ aris Cveni xelisuflebis

da misi sateliti partiebisa-

Tvis arCevnebis gayalbebis yve-

laze didi saSualeba da am

Sanss isini xelidan ar gauS-

veben.

rac Seexeba `amomrCevelTa

ligisa~ da `qarTuli ocnebis~

kardakar programebs, isini

bevrad ufro zustia da sando.

amomrCevelTa aqtiurobis

SemTxvevaSi es dauzustebeli

siebi xelisuflebas raime

mniSvnelovani gayalbebis saSu-

alebas veRar miscems!

__ SSeeZZlleebbss TTuu aarraa iivvaanniiSSvvii-

llii iimmaass,, rroomm mmSSvviiddaadd mmoovviiddeess

xxeelliissuufflleebbaaSSii??

_ `qarTuli ocneba~ mxo-

lod da mxolod arCevnebis

gziT apirebs da moaxerxebs ki-

dec gamarjvebas. rac ufro bo-

lo fazaSi gadava yvelaferi da

`nacmoZraoba~ naTlad dainaxavs,

rom aRara aqvs mogebis Sansi,

miT ufro gamZafrdeba maTi

mxridan represiebi mosaxleobis

mimarT, magram SiSs xalxSi uk-

ve veRar danergaven, es dro uk-

ve wavida. jini amoSvebulia da

ukan veRar daabruneben.

Cven SevlebT arCevnebamde

mSvidad misvlas. yvela cdi-

lobs iyvnen mSvidebi da prin-

cipulebi.

saakaSvils wamoscda _ `am-

aT undaT arCevnebSi SemiTrio-

no~ _ sworedac rom `SeviT-

revT~ da movugebT kidec!

eTer kasreliSvili

saakaSvilma Tqva _ amaT surTarCevnebSi `SemiTriono~...

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12 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.

prezidentma mixeil saakaS-

vilma `nacionaluri moZrao-

bis~ baTumis maJoritarobis

kandidatad giorgi baramiZe da-

asaxela.

ratom maincdamainc barami-

Ze? imitom, rom baramiZes sa-

Sualo skola baTumSi daum-

Tavrebia; kidev imitomo, rom

politikaSi man momiyvanao; ki-

dev imitomo, rom afxazeTis

omis dros erTad vmonawileob-

diT tyveTa gacvlis procesSi

da iq davaxlovdiTo; kidev

imitom, rom Cemi pirveli naT-

loba misgan maqvs miRebuli da

es arasdros damaviwydebao...

orive personam, jobs, rac

dasamaxsovrebelia, is ar dai-

viwyos, dawyebuli imiT, rom

naTel-mironi arian; rom bara-

miZe da zurab Jvanias meuRle

saakaSvilis ufrosi Svilis

naTliebi arian, swored im zu-

rab Jvaniasi, romlis gardacva-

lebis realuri ambavi miCuma-

Tebulia da bevrs egona, rom

uaxloesi megobari, gia bara-

miZe raRac radikalur nabijebs

gadadgamda, magram...

radgan drois simciris ga-

mo gakiTxv-gamokiTxva ver mo-

vaswari, (rac movaswari,

mTlad damabnies, ra baTumio)

baTumis romeli skola daam-

Tavra `maradmwvane didubelad~

wodebulma baramiZem da inter-

nets gadavxede _ giorgi bara-

miZe daibada 1968 wlis 5 ian-

vars q. TbilisSi. daamTavra sa-

qarTvelos politeqnikuri ins-

titutSi qimiuri teqnologiis

fakulteti~... da grZeldeba.

ra akademiuri moswrebiT gamo-

irCeoda `gepeiSi~, amaze aRaraa

saubaria, magram romeli qala-

qis romel skolaSi an skoleb-

Si swavlobda pativcemuli ba-

ramiZe, arsadaa miTiTebuli.

jandabas, sadRac, romeli-

Rac skolas daamTavrebda, ko-

munistebi ise ar SeuSvebdnen

umaRles saswavlebelSi-meTqi

da davanebe Tavi, magram axla

is momxvda TvalSi, rom batoni

baramiZe 1989 wlidan `mwvane-

Ta moZraobis~ erT-erTi dama-

arsebeli yofila. mexsierebis

deficitia Tu sxva ram, aqaoda,

batoni Jvania gardacvlilia,

cocxlad darCenilebi ki qon-

Si curaven, xmas ar amoiRebe-

no? _ 1985 wels, universite-

tis damTavrebis Semdeg baton-

ma Jvaniam mecnierebis xel-

SewyobiT Camoayaliba ekologi-

uri asociacia, romlis baza-

zec 1988 wels Seiqmna moZra-

oba `saqarTvelos mwvaneebi~ da

mis xelmZRvanelad airCies zu-

rab Jvania, anu, sanam baramiZe

1989 wels am moZraobis `erT-

erTi damaarsebeli~ gaxdeboda,

moZraoba 1988 wels ukve daar-

sebuli iyo da xelmZRvanelic

hyavda...

baramiZe, Turme labrasTan

gamarTul brZolebSi iRebda

monawileobas _ ki-

dev erTxel vurCi-

oT baton barami-

Zes, rom mexsiere-

bas mouxmos, kar-

gad gaixsenos lab-

rasTan omi, isic,

rom tankTan bevrs

gadauria suraTi

da saerTod, romel

batalions daasaxe-

lebs, romlis me-

Tauric moyuCebu-

li ar hyavT an vi-

ris abanoSi, an su-

lac saiqioSi?

baramiZes, ro-

melsac baTumi mxo-

lod `Zveli intu-

ristiT~ Tu axsovs

isic bavSvobaSi,

risi imedi aqvs ar-

CevnebSi? (SeiZle-

ba, arasworad dav-

svi kiTxva, `risi

imedis~ nacvlad,

unda mekiTxa `visi

imedi~ da pasuxi

mzad iqneboda) imi-

si xom ara, rom aWaraSi sakma-

od gavrcelebuli gvaria bara-

miZe?

raimes gavrcelebaze Tu

midga saqme, aWaraSi is kadre-

bicaa gavrcelebuli, rogor

moawyo im dros Sss ministrma

gia baramiZem prezidentis ina-

uguraciis ori Tvis Tavze saC-

venebeli sadamsjelo farTo-

masStabiani specoperacia e.w

`svanuri dajgufebis~ winaRm-

deg, romelTa vinaobac

ojaxis wevrebiT Se-

moifargla: asakovani

evgeni afrasiZe, misi

meuRle dodo sidiani,

goCa da omex afrasi-

Zeebi, Smagi afrasiZe

meuRliTa da mcirew-

lovani SvilebiT, ro-

melTagan ufrosi 13

wlis iyo, umcrosi 3

wlis...

is kadrebicaa gav-

rcelebuli, sadac

Cans, rom afrasiZeebis

ojaxis winaaRmdeg Ca-

tarebul specoperaci-

aSi monawileobdnen:

Ss saministros gulu-

as saxelobis specda-

niSnulebis razmi, Ss

saministros Sinagani

jaris specrazmi, uS-

iSroebis saministros

antiteroristuli cent-

ris specrazmi, samegre-

lo-zemo svaneTis samxa-

reo policiis mTeli pi-

radi Semadgenloba da

amave dros specrazmi,

mTlianobaSi 1000-mde ni-

Rbiani, romelTa Seiara-

RebaSi iyo: avtomatebi,

yumbarmtyorcnebi, `muxe-

bi,~ da tanksawinaaRmdego

yumbarmtyorcnebi; speco-

peraciaSi monawileobdnen

agreTve: 12 vertmfre-

ni_Sveulmfreni, ameriku-

li `irokezebi~ da rusu-

li ÌÈÏ-8 _ aseTi Seia-

raReba afxazeTSi ar hqo-

niaT mxareebs...

giorgi afrasiZe, Smagi

afrasiZis Svili, rome-

lic specoperaciis dros

13 wlis iyo: _ me da ba-

buas erT oTaxSi gveZina,

gverdze oTaxSi Cemi biZebi iw-

vnen. meZina da babuam rom ga-

maRviZa, vertmfrenis xma gavi-

ge, rasac, daaxloebiT erT

wuTSi srolac mohyva, sroliT

Semovidnen, pirdapir saxls es-

rodnen. manamde isinic babuam

gaaRviZa. ucbad CavicviT. babu-

am Tqva, bavSvi gaiyvaneT saxli-

dano da TviTon xelebaweuli

gavida aivanze, yviroda, ar is-

roloT, bavSvia saxlSi, gneb-

debiT, gnebdebiTo, am dros ba-

buas ukve tyvia moxvda da da-

eca. goCam damiZaxa, Semodi sax-

lSio da mec Sevirbine. daax-

loebiT xuTi wuTi isrodnen

gabmiT. cota rom SeCerda, go-

Cam miTxra mezobelTan gadagiy-

vano da xeli momkida. Cvens ze-

moT aris koSki, sadac spec-

razmelebi da snaiperebi iyvnen

da iqidan daiwyes srola. Cven

rom gavrbodiT, xis boZebia da

imas xvdeboda, erTma tyviam

SarvalSi gamiara. biZaCemma me-

zobelTan damtova da ukan gab-

runda babuas saxlSi, egeba

cocxali iyos da gadarCeso.

sadac biZiam Semiyvana, im sax-

lsac srola dauwyes da im me-

zobelma meore mezobelTan ga-

damiyvana da iqidan vuyureb-

diT, ra xdeboda. erTi yumbara

esroles babuas saxls da wa-

mebSi cecxli moekida mTel

saxls... srolebi rom damTavr-

da, biZaCemi ukve gardacvlili

iyo... mTel ojaxs aginebdnen,

eg gindodaT da eg gagikeTeT,

Tqveni dedao... erTi mezobeli

Seepasuxa da fexebSi esro-

les... saxlSi rom Sevedi, bebia

da deda cudad iyvnen. yvelafe-

ri gadmoyrili hqondaT specna-

zelebs da bavSvebs eubnebod-

nen, iaraRi sad gaqvT damalu-

lio. (bavSvebis asaki: 9, 7 da

3 wlis)`Skafebi~ gadmoyares,

daamtvries, dalewes yvelafe-

ri, magram iaraRs ras ipovid-

nen, araferi ar iyo saxlSi...

biZaCemi, goCa, daWrili iyo,

or specnazels xeli hqonda

mokidebuli da miaTrevdnen,

TviTon veRar dadioda, ukan

mamaCemi, Smagi miyavdaT, magram

is SedarebiT ukeT gamoiyure-

boda, Tavisi fexiT dadioda,

Casves vertmfrenSi da gafrin-

dnen. meore biZa, omexi, ukve

gardacvlili iyo da saxlis

win, orRobeSi egdo sisxlis

gubeSi, araferi ar efara zed.

ezoSi rom Sevdiodi, micvale-

bulTan samni idgnen da lapa-

rakobdnen, neta exla cxeli

svanuri kubdarebi gvaWa-

mao... moTxoviT, qalebs

moTxoves mere, mezoblis

qalebs, (televiziiT naC-

veneb kadrebSi kubdaris

`mTxovneli~ gia baramiZe-

a) ai, amxela saqme gavake-

TeT, es banditebi mogaSo-

reT da kubdarebi mainc

gamogvicxveTo. erTma maT-

ganma civad upasuxa,

mkvdari kaci win gigdiaT

da Tqven kubdarebs

gvTxovTo?~

omex afrasiZe, Smagi

afrasiZis Svili (im dros

9 wlis iyo): _ `rom ga-

viRviZe, ukve ismoda ver-

tmfrenis da srolis xma.

mamam sawolis qveS Seg-

viyvana: me, Cemi erTi Zma,

Cemi da da dedaCemi. mere

bebia Camovida da isic sa-

wolis qveS Semoiyvana ma-

mam. mamaCemi gverdze

oTaxSi dadioda, rasac

naxulobda zed gvafareb-

da. srolis xma ismoda,

didi afeTqebis xmac... sa-

wolis qveS viyaviT, ar

daminaxia, xma gavige, rom

Semovidnen bebiam hkiTxa,

vin momikaliTo. qmari da

Svili mogikaliT da Svi-

li dagiWeriTo... bebia da

deda ver gamovidnen, cu-

dad iyvnen... me romel sa-

wolzec meZina, sul

dacxriluli iyo... rom

gamovedi, biZaCemi davinaxe

orRobeSi dagdebuli da

sami jariskaci edga Tav-

ze. biZaCems yelze ekeTa

oqros jaWvebi, erTma

mkerdze daado fexi da

moaglija is oqroebi, me-

re erTma moixsna avtoma-

ti, mokle iyo, gulze da-

ades da suraTebi gadauRes, me-

re aiRes isev avtomati. me da

mezoblis bavSvebi viyaviT. ga-

diT iqiTo da Cven cota gavi-

wieT, magram vuyurebdiT mainc.

mezoblis qalebi eubnebodnen

micvalebuli mogveciTo, magram

axlos ar uSvebdnen aravis.

orRobeSi talaxiani wyali mo-

dioda da imaSi egdo biZaCemi...

romelmac moglija jaWvebi,

imas niRabi ekeTa, im ors _

ara.~

ecerSi, afrasiZeebis ojax-

ze Catarebuli specoperaciis

kvaldakval, sainformacio sa-

Sualebebma gvamcnes, rom afra-

siZeebis mier daxocili xal-

xis saidumlo samarx-samalavs

miagnes da televiziiT gviCve-

nes kadrebi, rogor amohqondaT

samarxidan adaminis Zvlebi,

romelTagan, nawili, dadastu-

rebulad, viTom levan kalaZi-

sa iyo...

rogorc Semdeg gamoirkva,

`samarx-samalavi~ me-17, me-18

me-19 saukunis sagvareulo sa-

marxi iyo, magram, rogorc spe-

coperaciis ambavi, ise `samar-

xebis~ ambavic ambad darCa...

RamRamobiT ra esizmreba

kubdarismoyvare baramiZes, Tvi-

Ton ukeT icis, magram cxr-

agzis parlamentaric rom ga-

xdes, mTeli cxovreba yelze

eqneba SemoWerili specopera-

cia, romelic ojaxisTvis umZi-

mesi SedegiT dasrulda _ oja-

xis ori wevri, daCexil-dacx-

riluli omex afrasiZe da sax-

lSi cocxlad gamomwvari evge-

ni afrasiZe, cocxlad darCeni-

li dabrmavebuli goCa da sas-

tikad nacem-nawamebi Smagi af-

rasiZeebi cixeSi, am specopera-

ciis Semswre Smagis meuRle _

fsiqiatriul klinikaSi, xolo

bebia da oTxi SviliSvili

usaxlkarod da Semweobis ga-

reSe darCenili.

meti raRa unda Tqva bara-

miZis gamtknarebuli saxis Sem-

xedvarem ase naucbaTevad, mag-

ram rac iTqva, is araa sakmari-

si?!...

maia WeliZe

cxragzis parlamentari rom gaxde, afrasiZeebis codva mainc mogeweva, baramiZe!

omexafrasiZe

afrasiZeebissaxli

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guram petriaSvili:`wina saparlamento arCevnebSi

me mxari davuWure da myavs

amis mowmeebi, me arasodes ara-

fers ar vmalav, mxari davuWi-

re leiboristul moZraobas. es

iciT, saidan modis? es aris

ara partiuli ambebi, es aris

Cemi cxovreba. Cemi cxovreba

aseTia: me var sofleli biWi.

Cemze amitomac iyvnen gabraze-

buli e.w. elitaruli... vnaxe

kuboSi es elitarizmi... elita-

ruli warmomadgenlebi inte-

ligenciis, rom me var xixo,

soflidan gamosuli, rogor

vbedav me... es iyo sasacilo,

imitom, rom me erTxel gamo-

viwvie egeni. axlac viwvev, isev

igive SemadgenlobiT viwvev.

dawyebuli im liana isakaZiT,

robert sturuaTi da sxvebiTa

da sxvebiT... axla roberti

moxsnes da ar SeiZleba masze

ramis Tqma. magram rom ar mo-

exsnaT, me movxsnidi, radgan man

rusTavelze Tqva, rom SoTa

rusTavels aqvs suleluri po-

ema, romelic savsea vefxvebis

xocviT da tiriliT. Se kai ka-

co, rusuli skola gaqvs dam-

Tavrebuli.... albaT, dadgmac

imitom unda, rom gaaTaxsiros

albaT. ase dawera maSin, me min-

da vaCveno, ra sisuleleao.

Cemzec visaubreb... magali-

Tad, dRes, jer ar wamikiTxavs

da wavikiTxav albaT dRes,

romeliRac gazeTSi, xaCilavas

gazeTSi viRaca qalma damcxo.

ratom damcxo, sainteresoa!

ver miaRwies Tavis mizans, al-

baT. me SimSilic gamovcade, si-

civec, usaxlkarobac gamovca-

de, umuSevrobac, yvelaferi ga-

movcade, erTaderTi ar gamo-

micdia sikvdili! albaT, unda

movmkvdariyavi me da maSin iqne-

boda kmayofili is qalbatoni,

romelic Cemze wers. gavauTo-

veb im naZiralas, davaviwyeb we-

ra-kiTxvas saerTod! gpirdebiT

me Tqven! roca wavikiTxav im

gazeTs. ra dabeWdes, jer vna-

xoT! gvinda-ar gvinda gadavdi-

varT pirovnebebze, imitom, rom

pirovnebebma moaxdines es amba-

vi, gana sxvam moaxdina. me, ma-

galiTad piradad, arc minaxavs

da arc didi survili maqvs

vnaxo gia yaryaraSvili. gia

yaryaraSvilma Tvis droze mo-

atyua zviadi, moatyua mTeli

Cveni xalxi. wavida osebTan un-

da vibrZoloo, wauyvana xalxi

da Tbiliss rom gascda, Semo-

abruna Tavisi iaraRi da dagvi-

Sina Cven.

araferi bevr xalxs ar ga-

davwvdi... erTi da igive... axla

me aq salome zurabiSvilic

rom movixsenio, Tavis janri

kaSiasTan erTad, naTlia-naT-

lulebi rom SeuRldnen, rac

saqarTveloSi didi codvaa...xo,

es lamazi saubari ar aris. imi-

tom rom me gamovdivar am sve-

turi raRaceebidan, ara var me

sveti...

rac Seexeba sa-

burTaloze deputa-

tobas, me arafers

ise ar gavakeTeb,

rom winaswar ar

vifiqro. me vifiqre

winaswar da axla me

rom vTqva, me maqvs

diaxac Sansi, rom va-

jobo andro uruSaZes

da usufaSvils, Tqven

metyviT, kvlav pirovne-

bebze gadaxvedio da...

maqvs, diaxac, maqvs Sansi. ra-

tomac ar maqvs?! imaTaca aqvT

da mec maqvs!

raSia iciT, saqme, me Camove-

di, samwuxarod Tqvenc xarT im

adamianTa ricxvSi, romlebsac

maincadamainc ara aqvT kargad

Segnebuli, vina var me. me var

guram petriaSvili, romelic,

rom Camovedi, uamravi adamiani

maCerebda quCaSi, uamaravi, Tu

mogatyuoT, momikvdnen Svilebi

da SviliSvilebi, uamravi ada-

miani maCerebda da meubneboda,

gagaxaraT RmerTma, Tqvena xarT

batoni guramio?! me vuTxari,

batonisa ra mogaxsenoT da gu-

ramai naRdad var-meTqi. Zalian

gviyvarxarT, ra kargia, rom Ca-

moxvediTo. amitom maqvs imedi!

amas garda, mas mere, rac me

aqedan wavedi, bevri dro gavi-

da da adamianebs hqondaT saSu-

aleba, wynarad dafiqrebuliyv-

nen. Tu rasa vwer me. me var am

wuTSi, amas geubnebiT sruli

pasuxismgeblobiT, me kritiko-

sica var da amitom SemiZlia,

kargad giTxraT, pirdapir

giTxraT, rom me var saqarTve-

loSi yvelze kargi mezRapre.

mezRapreoba es sasacilo saqme

ar aris. mezRapre iyo anderse-

ni, oskar uaildi, da vin dawe-

ra „patara ufliswuli“?...

rogori mezRaprec var, iseTive

poeti ara var, magram kargi po-

eti var. es patara ambavi ar

aris. amas garda, me viyavi naZa-

ladevSi maJoritari. SegiZli-

aT gaikiTxoT, yovel SemTxveva-

Si me movTxov ki ara, vTxov im

adamianebs, vinc CemTan mosul-

xarT Tqveni gasaWiriT, CemTan

saxlSi rom mosulxarT bevri

Tqvengani, vinc cocxlebi xarT,

wasulebs - naTeli. uTxariT am

adamianebs, rogor SegxvdiT me

Tqven. me SemiZlia davifico,

rom bevr adamains vaSovnine bi-

na, bevri adamiani, usamarTlod

rom iyo cixeSi _ gamoviyvane,

bevrs vaSovnine samuSao, zogs

manqana vaSovie, romelic ekuT-

vno-

da mas. ase vmuSaobdi me. SemiZ-

lia, rom kargad vimuSao.

saakaSviliT dawyebuli

usufaSviliT damTavrebuli,

yvelas ilia WavWavaZis port-

reti ukidia kabinetSi, ilia

uyvarT! iliam Tqva aseTi ram,

ilias sameba aseTi aris: ena, ma-

muli, sarwmunoeba. enis uke-

Tesi damcveli, SegiZliaT

hkiTxoT, visac gindaT, enis

ukeTesi damcveli vidre viyavi

me, saqarTveloSi Znelad moi-

Zebneba. avtomati me ar amiRia.

Tumca im naZiralebis sawinaaR-

mdegod, vinc Cven gvebrZoda,

saWiro iyo, rom ameRo da cu-

dia, rom ver aviRe. maSin iqne-

ba me damecva berdia beriaSvi-

li da Cemi Zmakaci - amiran ka-

laZe, da ise advilad veRar

moeklaT egeni.

rac Seexeba cxovrebis gaum-

jobesebas, am wuTSi getyviT,

Cems konkurentebs araferi ar

aqvT Camoyalibebuli, rom vus-

men, axla iwyeben „meti sarge-

beli xalxs“, ras niSnavs meti

sargebeli? guSin rac hqondaT,

imaze metia dRes? meorec, sar-

gebeli ra sityvaa, CarCuli,

vaWruli sityvaa. sargebeli ki

ara, mieciT xalxs wesieri sa-

muSao, mieciT xalxs wesieri

xelfasi, da araferi ar sWir-

debaT imaT, rom, kafe gaxsnan,

is gaxsnan. me ar miTqvams samu-

Saos Sesaxeb da magaze pasuxs

ver gagcemT. magram me vici,

aseTi magaliTi daniis cxovre-

bis. daniSi yvelaze mdidar

adamians SeuZlia iyos mxolod

10 000-jer mdidari, vidre

yvelaze Raribi. es imas niS-

navs, rom me Tu mdidari kaci

var, me unda vecado, iseTi

cxovreba Sevqmna, maSin meqneba

meti fulis gakeTebis saSua-

leba, Tu amaT raRacas mivcem,

am Rarib xalxs. raRac aseTi

unda moxdes.~

`maestro~,

`pirdapiri saubari

zaza xuciSvilTan~,

fragmentebi interviudan

goga xaindrava: `nika

rurua aris kriminali, dam-

naSave da ar vapireb misi ga-

monaTqvamebis komentirebas.

darwmunebuli var igi,

rogorc yvela sxva

damnaSave, romel-

mac Tavi moiyara

saakaSvilis gar-

Semo, iseve agebs

pasuxs Tavis namoR-

vawarze, rogorc

saakaSvili.

rac Seexeba leni-

nizms, erT rameSi dave-

Tanxmebi, Zalian axlosaa

am mdgomareobasTn saakaS-

vili. rogorc istoriidan

viciT, Tavis droze leni-

nisTvis kremlSi gazeTebi

SemohqondaT, romelic spe-

cialurad misTvis iyo da-

beWdili. TviTin ki darboda

da xes xan erT kuTxeSi

rgavda, mere amoiRebda da

meore kuTxeSi dargavda. re-

alurad, saakaSilic am mij-

nazea misuli, ubralod,

qalaqebs aSenebs xeebis

nacvlad.

Cveni yvelaze didi

ubedureba is aris, rom

ar gvinda simarTles

SevxedoT TvalebSi, va-

RiaroT, rom qveynis sa-

TaveSi dgas fsiqiurad

SeSlili adamiani! es

aris mTavari da amis Se-

degia saqarTveloSi da-

nergili sistema, sxvadasxva

uwyebebi, romelTac lamazi

saxelebi ki hqviaT, magram

sinamdvileSi sadamsjelo

da sruliad ukanonoa. sanam

Cven yvelani erTad, evropa

iqneba, amerika Tu saqarT-

velo, ar daveTanxmebiT di-

agnozs, rom saqarTvelos

saTaveSi dgas wonasworobi-

dan gamosuli adamiani, ro-

melic ver akontrolebs Ta-

vis qmedebas da rac mTava-

ria, ver akontrolebs Tavis

enas. me vadastureb am diag-

nozs, xolo rac Seexeba po-

litkur opozicias, Zalian

naklebad maxsovs dRes po-

litikur avanscenaze mdgom

opozicias iseTive gamonaTq-

vamebi hqonoda, rogorc me.

me var opozicia, magram ara

politikuri! SeiZleba vin-

mes rame uTqvams pirvel

pirze, magram ra vqnaT, es

realobaa, saakaSvili rom

avadmyofia es icis mTelma

msofliom. nebismieri adami-

ani, vinc sami wuTi uyurebs

mis gamosvlas, amas advilad

mixvdeba! anu kritika mtris

xatis Zebnaze naklebad

ekuTvnis politikur opozi-

cias. Cven, danarCen sazoga-

doebas, ki ar gvevaleba we-

sebis dacva. me vlaparakob

imas, raSic darwmunebuli

var da amaSi eWvi ar epare-

ba, ara marto opozicias,

aramed saakaSvilis uaxloes

garemocvasac ki, dedamisis

CaTvliT, rom es adamiani ab-

soluturad aris gasuli

moxmarebis zonidan!

rac Seexeba euTos sapar-

lamento ansambleis Sefase-

bas - mcire leninizmi, Cemis

azriT niSnebi ki ar aris

mxolod amis saqarTveloSi,

aramed gaqanebuli leniniz-

mia! amas adasturebs krimina-

li, araraoba ruruas gancxa-

deba, romelic uflebas aZ-

levs Tavs asambleis prezi-

dents SeniSvnebi misces. es

arsi leninizmis Tavi da Ta-

vi! xolo Ciora ras WikWi-

kebs, es visTvis aris sainte-

reso, magaT Tavis wreSi aRa-

ravin usmens! Cven am yvel-

fers wlebis ganmavlobaSi

vuyurebdiT. evropam Zalian

didi Secdoma dauSva, rom

wlebis ganmavlobaSi Tvals

xuWavda, radgan es aris saf-

rTxe Tavad evropisTvis, ro-

ca is uSvebs, rom Tundac

mis periferiaSi arsebobs

qveyana, romlis demokratia-

sa da reformebzea laparaki

da sinamdvileSi is aris ne-

obolSevikuri reJimi. da Tu

Sen amas eguebi, es niSnavs,

rom sakuTar Tavs ormos

uTxri, romelSic adre Tu

gvian aucileblad Cavardebi.

amis niSani yo avstriis pre-

mierad rom airCies faqtiu-

rad, faSisti da mere Se-

mohkres gangaSis zari! dRes

qveyanaSi, romelsac preten-

zia aqvs demokratiaze, aris

reJimi, romlis saTaveSic

dgas aRviraxsnili bolSevi-

ki! da igi imitom aris pir-

veli piri, rom asaTiani

aRar aris TbilisSi!

adamianis uflebis, Tavi-

suflebis, Rirsebis mxriv

dRes gvaqvs bevrad uaresi

qveyana, vidre rva wlis win.

biujetia aqvs meti! sadaa es

infrastruqtura, maCveneT?

ganaxlebul baTumSi meore

sarTulze wyali ar adis da

qalaqSi kanalizacia ar

aris. Tu gainteresebT ga-

naxlebuli baTumi, moSor-

diT im kempinskebs da gaia-

reT baTumSi. asevea gzebic,

romelic Tavis droze, rva

wlis win daigo. me maxsovs

mTavrobis wevri viyavi, ro-

ca mileniumis programas xe-

li moawra zura Jvaniam,

rogorc premierma da 2009

wels es gza unda yofili-

yo baTumSi, 2011 wel - so-

xumSi. maxsovs didi bil-

bordebi iyo gakruli da is

fuli, romelic amaSi iyo

aRebuli, am proeqts iTva-

liswinebda. sad aris gaCe-

rebuli es gza? roca deda-

qalaqSi patara wvimis gamo

adamianebi iRupebian, sadac

saniaRvre sistema ar arse-

bobs, romel infrastruq-

turaze vlaparakobT?!~

`maestro~,

fragmentebi interviudan

pativcemulo guram! is

qalbatoni, Tqven rom naZira-

las uwodebT da dauToebas

upirebT, me var, irine gogo-

saSvili.

radgan Tqvensas ar iSliT,

male iseT dokumentur masa-

lebs gamovaqveyneb, vnaxavT,

vis daaviwydeba wera-kkiTxva

da vin darCeba dauToebuli.

i. gogosaSvili

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saakaSvilis reJimisTvis gan-

sxvavebuli azris mqone yvela

adamiani rom mtrad aRiqmeba,

amis erT-erTi TvalsaCino maga-

liTi generali Tamaz TamazaSvi-

lia, romelsac `nacmoZraobis~

winaSe erTaderTi `danaSauli~

miuZRvis, igi `qarTu jgufis~

prezidentis irakli RaribaSvi-

lis simamria. generals isic ar

akmares, TiTidan gamowovili

braldebiT (cecxlsasroli

iaraRisa da asafeTqebeli masa-

lebis ukanono Senaxva-tareba)

cixeSi rom gamoketes da axla

televiziebSi intensiurad tri-

alebs videoklipebi, rom Turme

TamazaSvili kaxeTis samxareo

policiis ufrosobis dros kri-

minalur avtoritetebTan iyo

`Sekruli~ da narkomovaWreebsa

da adamianis gamtaceblebs mfar-

velobda. bunebrivad Cndeba

kiTxva, Tu es adamiani amden `da-

naSaulSi~ iyo SemCneuli, ra

uSlida xels `vardosnebs~ mis-

Tvis aqamde moeTxovaT pasuxi,

ratom gaaxsendaT es yvelaferi

biZina ivaniSvilis politikaSi

mosvlis Semdeg? aSkaraa, rom aq

sul sxva raRacasTan gvaqvs saq-

me.

Tamaz TamazaSviliwlebis ganmavlobaSimarTlac iyo kaxeTissamxareo policiis Se-fi, mis gamgeblobaSiiyo pankisis xeobac.ase, rom, generalma yve-laferi kargad icis,rac iq xdeboda da rasaqmianobiT iyvnen da-kavebuli im periodSiTundac es Cveni `axal-gazrda reformatore-bi~.

arasasurveli mowmeebis mi-

marT rom `vardosnebs~ gansa-

kuTrebuli damokidebuleba

aqvT, yvelas kargad moexseneba.

Tu imasac gavixsenebT, rom dRe-

vandeli xelisufleba yofili

`mxedrionelebis~ navsayudelia,

TamazaSvilma ki Tavis droze

marto kaxeTSi ki ara, lamis

mTel saqarTveloSi aRkveTa ma-

Ti TavaSvebuli TareSi, gamo-

ricxuli ar aris, rom es maTi

mxridan SurisZiebac iyos.

zurab gamezardaSvi-li:: `am klipebs Tu davuje-

rebT, Turme Tamaz TamazaSvili

adamianebis gamtaceblebs da nar-

komovaWreebs mfarvelobda, aseve

`Sekruli~ yofila kanonier

qurdebTan. xmamaRla vacxadeb, es

aris sruli sicrue. batoni Ta-

mazis samxareo policiis ufro-

sobis dros me lagodexis kri-

minaluri policiis ufrosi gax-

ldiT. masze mxolod imis Tqma

SemiZlia, rom iyo kargi xelm-

ZRvaneli da Zalze Zlieri ope-

ratiuli muSaki. misi xelmZRva-

nelobiT uamravi specoperacia

gvaqvs Catarebuli ara marto

kaxeTSi, aramed mTel saqarTve-

loSi. areulobis wlebSi kaxeT-

Si uamravi mZime danaSauli iyo

momxdari _ adamianebis gataceba,

mkvleloba, yaCaRuri Tavdasxma

da am danaSaulobebSi eWvmitani-

lebis dakaveba gvixdeboda, ro-

gorc kaxeTSi, ise TbilisSi,

rusTavSi, WiaTurasa da guria-

Sic. es iyo kargad organizebu-

li bandituri dajgufeba da mi-

si gauvnebelyofa (1996-97 wle-

bi) Tamaz TamazaSvilisa da la-

godexis maSindeli prokuroris

zurab zurabaSvilis xelmZRvane-

lobiT moxda. 186-epizodiani

saqme iyo, am dajgufebis yvela

wevri Sesabamisi braldebiT mie-

ca pasuxisgebaSi da obieqturi

sasamarTlo ganaCenic dadga.

am damsaxurebis adamiani ki

dRes patimaria da ukanonod ix-

dis sasjels, magram mjera, rom

samarTlianoba izeimebs da bato-

ni Tamazi isev Cadgeba qarTuli

samarTaldamcavi struqturebis

avangardSi.

- bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss sswwoorreedd

aamm ggaannccxxaaddeebbaamm ggaaaaRRiizziiaannaa nnaaccxxee-

lliissuufflleebbaa ddaa eess kklliippeebbiicc `̀ggaa-

mmooaaccxxvveess~~......

- Tamaz TamazaSvili marto

kargi profesionali ki ara, kar-

gi meojaxecaa, hyavs SesaniSnavi

meuRle, Svilebi, SviliSvilebi.

rodesac aseT braldebas uyene-

ben adamians, xom unda gaiTva-

liswinon, amisTvis ra mtkicebu-

lebebi aqvT. es misi ojaxisTvis

didi fsiqologiuri dartymaa.

am klipebis Semqmneli erTi

dRiT ar unda cxovrobdes, mis-

Tvis morali da zneoba ufro

mets unda niSnavdes, vidre vin-

mes saamebeli gancxadebebis ke-

Teba.

rac Seexeba misTviswayenebul brals, raSi

sWirdeboda generalsdauregistrirebeliiaraRi, roca mas ofi-cialurad aqvs iara-Ris tarebis ufleba.maioris zemoT Cinismqone pirs, romelic

daTxovniT ar tovebsZalovani struqturisrigebs, sicocxlis bo-lomde aqvs iaraRistarebis ufleba. bato-ni Tamazi ki sakuTarigancxadebis safuZvel-zea Sss-dan gaTavisuf-lebuli.

biZina ivaniSvilma politika-

Si mosvlis Sesaxeb rom gaakeTa

gaakeTa gancxadeba, Tamaz Tama-

zaSvili maleve daakaves am ab-

surduli braldebiT. vimeoreb,

misi xelmZRvanelobiT Zalze

bevri specoperacia gvaqvs Cata-

rebuli, ra drosac uamravi dam-

naSave iqna dakavebuli da pasu-

xisgebaSi micemuli.

kaxeTis policiambatoni Tamazis xelm-ZRvanelobiT gadatexawelSi damnaSaveTa sam-yaro da `mxedrioni~ ka-xeTSi. mis mokvlaze`mxedrionelebs~ ful-adi jildo hqondaTdawesebuli. Tavad varamis Sesaxeb saqmis ku-rsSi. ranairad SeiZle-ba, rom adamiani, rom-lis likvidaciaSic fu-ls ixdidnen, raime sa-xiT dakavSirebuli yo-filiyo kriminalur

samyarosTan?- rraammddeennaaddaacc vviiccii,,

TTqqvveenncc ggiippiirreebbddnneenn ddaaWWeerraass..

- iqidan gamomdinare,

rom aqtiurad var CarTuli

saarCevno kampaniaSi, Cems

ojaxzec iyo zewolebi. me

da Cems vaJs daWeras gvpi-

rebdnen. amaze Tqveni gaze-

Tic werda. me lagodexis

raionidan var. iq erT pi-

rovnebas, romelic Cveni aq-

tivisti iyo, kerZod, zviad

xvedeliZes daavales, rom

sul Cems gverdiT yofili-

yo da informaciebi miewo-

debina uSiSroebis samsaxu-

risTvis. is roca daakaves, pir-

dapir mosTxoves, an `qaTmebis~

sakanSi waxval an Cveni agenti

gaxdebio. mas Tavi rom daexsna,

sanam saqarTvelos datovebas

moaxerxebda, informatorobaze

daTanxmda. es pirovneba axla

gaqceulia da ucxoeTidan gaake-

Ta es gancxadeba. mas dauswreb-

lad miusajes oTxweliwadnaxe-

variani patimroba. dedaCemi peda-

gogia da Cems gamo isic gaaTavi-

sufles samsaxuridan.

vinmes CvenTvis mikerZoeba

rom ar daebralebina, zurab ga-

mezardaSvili dainteresebuli

piria da cxadia, Tamaz TamazaS-

vils daicavso, amitom `saerTo

gazeTma~ xsenebuli sakiTxebis

Sefaseba saerTaSoriso organi-

zacia `kavkasiel xalxTa konfe-

deraciis~ Tavmjdomares zaal

kasreliSvils sTxova, miTume-

tes, rom igi warmoSobiT kaxe-

Tidanaa da Zalze kargad icnobs

Tavis droze iq ganviTarebul

movlenebs.

zaal kasreliSvili:`Tamaz TamazaSvils me pirovnu-

lad ar vicnob, aranairi Sexeba

ar mqonia, magram, mogexsenebaT,

CeCneTis omis Semdeg Crdilokav-

kasiidan ltolvilTa didi naka-

di gadmovida kaxeTSi da xSirad

moumarTavT CemTvis, rogorc ko-

nfederaciis xelmZRvanelisTvis

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs,

oRond ara regionaluri poli-

ciis xelmZRvanelis doneze. mec

Cemi SesaZleblobebisa da kavSi-

rebis farglebSi, vcdilobdi

amecilebina mosalodneli safr-

Txeebi, rogorc saqarTvelosT-

vis, ise patiosani Crdilokavka-

sielebisTvis. imitom, rom ram-

denime cudi adamianis gamo bevr

Zalze karg Crdilokavkasiels

Seeqmna problema, radgan isini

am adamianebTan gaaigives. ase,

rom, metnaklebad saqmis kursSi

var, rac xdeboda. Tamaz Tama-

zaSvili, faqtiurad, am klipebi-

dan gavicani. aqamde megona, rom

sareklamo klipi ama Tu im kom-

panias, pirovnebasa Tu Tu

brends uwevda reklamas. axla ki

vixile `unikaluri~ klipi, ro-

desac viRacas lanZRaven.

Cemi azriT, xeli-suflebam Zalze sasa-cilo mdgomareobaSiCaigdo Tavi. TamazaS-vili mas Semdeg daiWi-res, rac biZina ivaniS-

vili qarTul politi-kaSi gamoCnda da ba-tonma Tamazma piradadumaspinZla `qarTuliocnebis~ warmomadgen-lebs qiziySi.

me mis warsuls kargad ar

vicnob, magram vsvam kiTxvas, Tu

es kaci kaxeTSi mafiis bosi iyo,

2003 wlidan xom TviTon arian

xelisuflebaSi da 2012 wlamde

ratom ar daiWires, axla gaax-

sendaT misi `danaSaulobebi~?

maSin ratom ar gaasamarTles

adamianis gamtaceblebisa da kri-

minalur avtoritetebis mfarve-

lobisTvis, an narkotranzitis

kontrolisTvis? klipSi am da-

naSaulebze saubroben, magram

misTvis es braldebebi ar wauye-

nebiaT. Tu marTla damnaSavea es

kaci da mis mimarT pirovnul an-

gariSsworebas ar aqvs adgili,

maSin gaesamarTlebinaT am bral-

debebiT da sajaro ganxilvis

sagani gamxdariyo sasamarTlo

procesi, rom gagverkvia mtyuan-

marTali. amas ar akeTeben da ge-

nerals iaraRis ukanono tare-

bisTvis asamarTleben. minda

giTxraT, rom yvela maRali Ci-

nis oficers da yvela yofil

deputats, 1992 wlidan moyo-

lebuli, iaraRis Senaxvisa da

tarebis ufleba aqvs. amis para-

lelurad is feTqebadi masale-

bis Senaxvis braldebac wauyenes.

feTqebad masalad iTvleba gli-

cerini, `margancovka~ da aceto-

nic, romelic sayofacxovrebo

pirobebSi Cveulebriv moixmare-

ba. Cven arc is viciT, am kacs ra

feTqebadi masala `aRmouCines~.

ise, `qarTuli ocne-bis~ winaaRmdeg martoes samarcxvino klipiar yofila, sxva klipiciyo, sadac daRupuligmiris dedis emociurida uaryofiTi ganwyo-ba gamoiyenes. leqsonatroSvili marTlacgmirulad daiRupa, ma-gram, saubedurod, de-damisma dRemde ar ic-is, rom misi Svili br-ZolaSi miatoves.

SurisZieba nacionaluradrogor SeiZleba Tamaz TamazaSvils

kriminalebTan kavSiri davabraloT, roca misi

likvidaciisTvis `mxedrions~ da kriminalur

samyaros fuladi jildo hqondaT dawesebuli

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man arc is icis, rom am nat-

roSvilis danayofis brZolis

dros im mimarTulebiT gaSveba,

ra mimarTulebiTac gauSva misma

xelmZRvanelobam, iyo danaSau-

lebrivi qmedeba. dazvervis gare-

Se konkretuli mimarTulebiT

Setevis dawyebis brZanebis gace-

ma, danaSaulia. am mamacma biWma

uTanasworo brZolaSi, Tanac wa-

gebul omSi gmiruli Seteva mii-

tana da ramdenadac vici, daWri-

li da cecxlwakidebuli bolom-

de ibrZoda. es maSin, roca misi

batalionis meTauri vinme kikabi-

Ze ugzo-ukvlod iyo gamqrali.

kaciSvilma ar icis kikabiZisnai-

ri meTaurebi rodis da sad gaq-

rnen. Tu ukandaxevis brZaneba

hqondaT miRebuli, maSin savele

meTaurebi ratom gawires?

modiT, isev TamazaSvilis Te-

mas davubrundeT. xelisuflebas

Tu imis Tqma unda, rom biZina

ivaniSvilis garemocva cudia, ma-

Sin bolomde gviTxras simarTle.

vsargeblob SemTxve-viT da me zaal kasre-liSvili `kavkasiel xa-lxTa konfederaciis~Tavmjdomare am da aramarto am sakiTxebze te-ledebatebSi viwvev, ro-gorc am klipebis avto-rebs, ise `nacmoZrao-bis~ liderebsac, maTSoris petre ciskariS-vils, romelsac am kli-pebis mixedviT Tu vims-jelebT, kargad undascnoboda Tamaz Tama-zaSvili. ramdenjermexmamaRla daisva sa-kiTxi, rom dRevandelisaparlamento umrav-lesobis lideri iyoe.w. amRebi, anu Suamava-li narkomovaWreebsada narkomomxmareblebsSoris da rom is amis ga-mo hyavdaT gatacebulipankisis xeobaSi.

Tavis droze am ambavs didi

skandali mohyva, magram mere yve-

laferi miaCumaTes. saparlamento

umravlesobas, petre ciskariSvi-

lis advokats an nacmoZraobis aq-

tivs am sakiTxze erTxel mainc

Tu gaukeTebiaT raime gancxadeba?

xmas ratom ar iReben? Tqvi, rom

ase iyo, an ar iyo, ratom dum-

xar?~

maSindel `axalgazrda re-

formatorebs~ 2003 wlidan ukve

xelisuflebas arasdros uTqvams

Tu risTvis gaitaces petre cis-

kariSvili. maSin oficia-

lurad mxolod is iTqva,

rom batoni petre Tavis

sacolesTan erTad seir-

nobda kus tbaze, ra

drosac moxda gataceba.

albaT, bevrs axsovs ga-

tacebulebis gamoxsnis

Semdeg zurab Jvaniasa da

maSindeli Ss ministr ka-

xa TargamaZis erToblivi

brifingi. TargamaZis

orazrovani sicilic ge-

maxsovrebaT, roca is

parlamentis Tavmjdoma-

ris maRalfardovan gan-

cxadebebs ismenda. sazogadoebis-

Tvis maSinve naTeli gaxda, rom

sinamdvileSi arc ise iyo saqme,

rogorc moqkavSirma SemogvasaRa.

sxvaTa Soris, im periodSi da

Semdgomac aqtiurad vrceldebo-

da xmebi, rom ciskariSvili da

misi megobari gogona sinamdvile-

Si pankisis xeobaSi daiWires,

rodesac `boeviki-reformatori-

~is narkotikis `asaRebad~ iyo iq

Casuli. profesional policiel-

Ta TqmiT, narkotikebTan dakavSi-

rebuli pirebi xSirad iyenebdnen

qalbatonebs Sirmad, policias

eWvi rom ar gasCenoda. ise, mxo-

lod gulubryvilo Tu ifiqrebs,

aseT saqmeze qalTan erTad vin

wavao. rogorc ambobdnen, ciska-

riSvils erTi iqauri narkomo-

vaWre `gadagdebuli~ hyavda, anu

saqoneli `posleze~ wamoiRo da

mere fuli aRar gadauxada. mar-

Talia, man meore `barigas~ fuli

gadauxada, magram am ukanasknelma

igi `gadagdebulTan~ `CauSva~

klienti aq aris da imoqmedeo,

Tumca zaal kasreliSvili am

versias ar eTanxmeba.

zaal kasreliSvili::`madloba RmerTs, rom Cvens or-

ganizacias arc maSin da arc ax-

la kriminalebTan da teroris-

tebTan saqme ar hqonia, magram

uamrav informacias vflobdiT.

Cvens xelT arsebuli in-

formaciiT, petre ciska-

riSvili da misi sacole

marTlac Tbilisidan gai-

taces. maT pankisSi im mar-

tivi mizeziT ar aiyvandnen,

rom amis gamo adgilobriv

mosaxleobas da maSindel

ltolvilebs, romelTa

Soris mebrZolebic iyvnen,

mdgomareoba gaurTuldebo-

daT. maT erCiaT es xeobis

gareT momxdariyo. ramdena-

dac vici, erT-erT narko-

movaWres, romelic Semdeg

tualetSi aafeTqes, adgi-

lobrivebi da ltolvile-

bi imitom daupirispirdnen,

rom man ramdenjerme Tavisi kri-

minaluri aqcia-operacia pankisis

teritoriaze Caatara. is Turme

gaafrTxiles, Seni saqcieliT

qarTvelebis problemebs aq mog-

vitan, Cven dagvbraldeba da meo-

red aRar gaakeToo. man isev rom

gaimeora, uTqvamT: tualetis

virTxasaviT iqcevi da cxovreba-

sac ase daamTavrebo. meeWveba

vefxia margoSvili CeCen mebrZo-

lebs aefeTqebinaT, radgan ro-

gorc giTxariT, isini iq proble-

mas ar Seiqmnidnen (rogorc san-

do da kargad informirebulma

wyarom `saerTo gazeTs~ uTxra,

margoSvili `reformatorebTan~

daaxloebuli persona gaxldaT

da savaraudod swored maT moi-

Sores, radgan bevr maTTvis ara-

sasurvel informacias flobda –

m.s.).

Cven maSinac da dResac aqti-

ur sazogadoebriv-politikur

cxovrebas veweviT. miT umetes,

rom maSin Cven viTvlebodiT Se-

vardnaZis #1, realuri Zalis

mqone opoziciad da Sesabamisad,

kanonieri xelisuflebis sisxli-

ani gadatrialebis avtorebis

opoziciadac. me rigiT meomrebs

ki ara, maT patronebs vgulisx-

mob. ramdenjerme scades kidec

CvenTan dapirispireba, magram Zvi-

ri daujdaT da Tavi dagvanebes,

miT umetes mas mere, rac zogi-

erTi maTgani Zalze gamdidrda

da sazRvargareT `voiaJebi~ da-

iwyo.

ase, rom, yvelaferikargad maxsovs. Tundacis, rom `mxedrionis~yvelaze Zlieri qveda-nayofi kaxeTSi iyo.isic maxsovs, rom sa-qarTveloSi ori gamok-veTilad mebrZolo xa-siaTis, Tan Wkviani ma-RalCinosani policie-li ebrZoda ara marto`mxedrions~, aramed mT-lianad kriminalur sa-myaros. eseni iyvnen Ta-maz TamazaSvili da viq-tor gobroniZe (guriissamxareo policiis uf-rosi – m.s.). `vardosneb-ma~ orive gayares samsa-xuridan.

rodesac samxareo policiis

ufrosi xar da gaqvs ufleba da

Sinagani mowodebac, rom ebrZo-

lo saxelmwifoebriv doneze ay-

vanil, gasamxedroebul krimina-

lur dajgufebas, cxadia, gaqvs

informacia aramarto rigiT kri-

minalebze, aramed maT mfarveleb-

zec.

aqedan gamomdinare, Ta-maz TamazaSvilma daviqtor gobroniZem yve-laferi ician `vardos-nebis~ saqmianobaze 2003wlamdec da `vardebisrevoluciis~ Semdegac.

Tu vinmes hgonia, rom 2003

wlis Semdeg kaxeTis regionis

gamgeblebi, gubernatorebi da de-

putatebi mxolod xelfasiT

cxovroben, maT teledebadebateb-

Si davumtkiceb, rom Zalze seri-

ozuli korufciis budea ara mar-

to Rvinis da koniakis spirtis

warmoebis sferoSi, aramed xe-

tyesa da sawvav-sapox masalebSic,

romelic azerbaijanidan kontra-

banduli gziT Semoedineboda.

sanam Tamaz Ta-mazaSvili poli-tikaSi gaereoda,nacelitas xelsar uSlida da imi-tomac ar exebod-nen. axla misialaparakebis See-SindaT. sanam Cu-mad xar, naciona-lebi fiqroben,rom an debilixar da araferiici, anda ici, mag-ram xmis amoRebisgeSinia. maT ori-

ve varianti awyobT.rogorc am qveynis erTi ri-

giTi moqalaqe, Sevwuxdi amdeni

uniWo klipebis yurebiT. batono

mixeil saakaSvilo, Ss ministro,

uSiSroebis sabWos mdivano,

aRiareT rom modiT, Tamaz Tama-

zaSvili iyo da aris is Zala,

romelsac Tqvens winaaRmdeg ka-

xeTSi realurad SeeZlo proble-

mebis Seqmna da amitomac moiSo-

reT~.

manana suxiSvili

politikur oponen-

ts, Tundac konku-

rents mosisxle

mtrad rom aRiqvam,

maT da maT momxreebs uwmin-

durs rom uwodeb, sakons-

titucio vadebis dacva rom

ar ginda da a.S. da a.S. vina

xar amis Semdeg? vina xar da

namdvili prorusi mmarTve-

li, radgan pro-rusulia is,

rac ruseTs gvamsgavsebs, mis

politikur sistemas imeo-

rebs. Torem me, piradad, ev-

ropisken mimiwevs guli,

iqiTken, sadac xelsufleba-

Ta demokratiuli cvla

sruliad bunebrivi ramaa da

politikuri oponenti, ub-

ralod, oponentia da ara

mosisxle mteri. ar SemiZ-

lia am barbarosobis da Ca-

morCenilobis atana

egre iyo Tu ara?

nino burjanaZe par-

lamentis Tavmjdo-

mare rom ar yofi-

liyo, miSa gaxdeboda prezi-

denti? burjanaZes rom ar

gaepravebina miSas revolu-

cia, axla vin iqneboda qvey-

nis pirveli piri? kacooo,

maSin Tu kai qali da didi

patrioti iyo, axla radaa

ruseTis agenti? ase 3-4 we-

liwadSi xdebian adamianebi

super-moRalateebi?

rodesac tyveebis

gacvla gagania omis

dros afxazeTSi me

da paata zaqareiS-

vilma davasruleT... nabiW-

varma giorgi aivengos Ze ba-

ramiZem interviu misca te-

leviziasa da presas, rogor

riskavda Tavisi dampali gva-

miT am gacvlebisas....mogvia-

nebiT movida da gvTxova ka-

rierisTvis mWirdebao!!!!!

dRes baTumSi ori

tyveTamfarveli ga-

moikveTa ..... Turme

aivengoviCTan erTad

mixo nikalaeviCic cvlida

tyveebs!!!!

yvela variantSi

kargad viqnebiT, an

kibos movicilebT,

an SevewirebiT Ta-

visuflebas, riTac samoTxes

gavinaRdebT, madloba miSas,

rom qristianuli saTnoebiT

Tavganwirvis Sansi mogvca.

nacebo, riT ver ga-

igeT, rom veranairi

cifri ver giSve-

liT... normaluri

da Rirseuli qarTveli 5-s

samudamod amoiRebs xmarebi-

dan. Tqven verc CergoleiS-

vilis “tabula” da veRarc

xaratiSvilis gamravlebis

tabula giSveliT

xom giTxariT, miSa

dinozavria-Tqo?

150 weli apirebs

cxovrebas ... es da-

sawyisisTvis, Torem danar-

Cens mere gadawyvets.

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kenedis mkvlelo-

bas, rodis daabra-

leb `qarTul ocne-

bas”, ha? apa, sxva aRar dar-

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afeTqebas!:) darCenili kidev

bevria. maS pizis koSki vin

daxara? da saerTodac eWvia,

rom kaxeTis dasetyvac misi

ideaa, rom mere daxmareboda

xalxs da moesyida. amboben

Tavad zevsTan aris garigeba-

Sio. obamas xom biZo afinan-

sebda. mere gvirabi gaTxara

bombeidan londonamde da

motyda.

xalxis azriT

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`saerTo ggazeTi~

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ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa CCeeCCnneeTTiiss rreess-

ppuubblliikkaa iiCCqqeerriiiiss mmTTaavvrroobbiiss

yyooffiillii wweevvrrii,, aammJJaammaadd ppoollii-

ttiikkuurr eemmiiggrraacciiaaSSii mmyyooffii bbaa-

ttoonnii maTe cixesaSvili

__ bbaattoonnoo mmaaTTee,, mmooggeessaallmmee-

bbiiTT ddaa mmiinnddaa ggkkiiTTxxooTT,, TTuu iicc-

nnoobbTT xxiizzrrii aallddaammoovvss??

_ xizri aldamovs vicnob,

Cven dabadebuli varT saqarT-

velos erT-erT ulamazes

kuTxeSi _ pankisis xeobaSi,

sadac cxovroben saqarTvelos

erTguli qistebi.

didi megobroba ar gvqonia,

is asakiT Cemze ufrosia, Tanac

sxvadasxva soflebSi vcxov-

robdiT.

__ rruussuullii ssaaiinnffoorrmmaacciioo

ssaaSSuuaalleebbeebbii iittyyoobbiinneebbiiaann,, rroomm,,

rrooggoorrcc CCeeCCnneeTTiiss rreessppuubblliikkiiss

wwaarrmmoommaaddggeenneellii xxiizzrrii aallddaammoo-

vvii aammbboobbss,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss xxeellii-

ssuufflleebbiiss mmiieerr ddeevvnniilliiaa ddaa

mmookkvvllaass ZZlliivvss ggaaddaarrCCeenniillaa,,

aaxxllaa CCeeCCnneeTTSSiiaa ddaa TTaavvss SSeeddaa-

rreebbiiTT ddaaccuullaadd ggrrZZnnoobbss,, mmaann

bbooddiiSSii mmoouuxxaaddaa CCeeCCeenn xxaallxxss

ddaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss

rreeJJiimmii aammxxiillaa,, rraass ggvveettyyvviiTT aamm

ggaannccxxaaddeebbeebbzzee??

_ idevneboda Tu ara xizri

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis-

gan, ver getyviT, magram vici

is, rom CeCen xalxs misi sabo-

diSo araferi sWirs. CeCnebs

misTvis ndobis mandati ar Ca-

ubarebia. eri ndobis mandats

abarebs, magaliTad, kanonierad

arCeul prezidentebs, aseTi

mandati hqondaT tragikulad

gardacvlil kavkasiis prezi-

dentebs: zviad gamsaxurdias,

joxar dudaevs, zelimxan ian-

darbievs, aslan masxadovs, sa-

qarTveloSi arsebuli reJimi,

rusebmac da qarTvelebmac xi-

zirze ukeTesad ician, ase,

rom, amiT mas didi aRmoCena ar

gaukeTebia.

Tu xiziri idevneboda sa-

qarTvelos xelisuflebis mi-

er, maSin qarTul sainforma-

cio saSualebebSi ratom aqeb-

da wlebis ganmavlobaSi saa-

kaSvilis xelisuflebas da

ilaSqrebda opoziciis winaaR-

mdeg?... an CeCen xalxs raSi

mouxada bodiSi, kargad vemsa-

xure xalxs, ar vuRalate

eris Rirsebas da vaJkacobaso

Tu ra? 2004 wlidan is ara-

nair Tanamdebobaze ar muSaob-

da, iyo rigiTi moqalaqe, sa-

qarTveloSi Tavs kargad

grZnobda da iyo im opoziciis

winaaRmdegi, vinc saakaSvilis

reJims ebrZoda.

__ mmaann iissiicc kkii uuTTxxrraa rruussuull

mmeeddiiaass,, rroomm kkooaalliicciiaa `̀qqaarrTTuu-

llii ooccnneebbiiss~~ lliiddeerrii mmeecceennaattii

ddaa qqvveellmmooqqmmeeddii bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvvii-

llii ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss rreeJJiimmmmaa SSeeiiZZ-

lleebbaa iisseevvee ggaammooaassaallmmooss ssii-

ccooccxxlleess,, rrooggoorrcc eess ppaattaarrkkaa-

cciiSSvviilliiss SSeemmTTxxvveevvaaSSii ggaaaakkeeTTaaoo..

_ xizirs rusuli sainfor-

macio saSualebebiT rom ar

Seexsenebina ivaniSvilisTvis,

ar icis batonma biZinam, ra un-

da gaakeTos da rogor moiq-

ces? es aris qarTul sainfor-

macio saSualebebSi dabeWdili

masalebis gameoreba. mas dama-

dasturebeli sabuTebi ar dau-

dia, rac niSnavs, rom misi gan-

cxadebebi araseriozuli iyo,

ise ki, ar mesmis, vin miiCnevs

xizir aldamovs politikosad

an diplomatad.

__ CCeeCCnneebbii aarr mmiiiiCCnneevvTT xxiizz-

rrii aallddaammoovvss ppoolliittiikkoossaadd ddaa

ddiipplloommaattaadd?? rriiss ssaaffuuZZvveellzzee

eennddoo mmaass mmaassxxaaddoovvii.. ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-

llooSSii rraa mmiissiiiiTT ggaammooggzzaavvnnaa??

ssxxvvaaTTaa SSoorriiss,, uunnddaa iiTTqqvvaass,,

rroomm iiggii ccuuddii aavvttoorriitteettiiTT aarr

wwaassvvllaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooddaann.. qqaarrTTvvee-

lleebbii mmaass ppaattiivvss sscceemmddnneenn..

_ gasagebia, magram xiziri

ar yofila joxaris warmomad-

geneli saqarTveloSi da verc

iqneboda. cxonebuli zviadi ma-

Sin groznoSi iyo da Sevard-

naZis xelisuflebasTan ar yo-

fila araviTari urTierToba.

zustad vici, mas rusi spec-

samsaxurebis zewoliT alapa-

rakeben. kidev gimeorebT, is

aris saqarTvelos moqalaqe da

ar yofila iCqeriis warmomad-

geneli 2004 wlidan.

__ aamm ddRReeeebbSSii SSeessrruullddaa

ccxxiinnvvaalliiss ttrraaggeeddiiiiddaann 44 wwee-

llii,, TTqqvveenn,, vviinncc wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavv-

lloobbaaSSii qqaarrTTuullii ((ddaa aarraa mmaarr-

ttoo qqaarrTTuullii,, jjooxxaarr dduuddaaeevviiss

mmTTaavvrroobbaaSSii mmooRRvvaawweeoobbddiiTT))

eerroovvnnuullii mmooZZrraaoobbiiss lliiddeerree-

bbiiss ggvveerrddiiTT iibbrrZZooddiiTT.. ggaammooiiaa-

rreeTT CCeeCCnneeTT-rruusseeTTiiss oorrii oommii,,

rrooggoorr SSeeaaffaasseebbTT 22000088 wwlliiss 88

aaggvviissttooss mmoovvlleenneebbss??

_oms da omis Temas ar min-

da xolme Sevexo, radgan gamo-

viare 4 omi _ inguSeT-oseTis,

afxazeTis da CeCneT-ruseTis

ori omi, romelic dResac ar

aris damTavrebuli. vnaxe aTa-

si ubedureba da gaWirveba. is,

rac moxda 2004 wlis 8 agvis-

tos, ar unda momxdariyo. es

calsaxaa. omSi gamarjvebuli

aravin gamodis. oms orive mxa-

re agebs. 4 weli gavida mas

Semdeg da ra moigom saqarTve-

lom, an ra moiges osebma? ara-

feri ngrevisa da ubedurebis

garda, aris asobiT

sakuTari saxlebidan

devnili mosaxleoba,

dainvalidda xalxi,

arian ugzo-ukvlod

dakargulebi...

kavkasiaSi macxov-

rebeli erebi mcire-

ricxovani varT, ar

SeiZleba Cven Soris

omis an saomari pro-

vokaciis daSveba.

rac Seexeba ru-

seTs, putinma ganacxa-

da, ara mxolod vem-

zadebodiT saomari

operaciebisTvis, aramed Cven

vamzadebTdiT da vaiaraRebdiT

samxreT oseTis mosaxleobasa-

co. ruseTis generalur Stabs

hqonia sxva gegmac, rom iqnas

dapyrobili saqarTvelos te-

ritoriebi, aRniSnaven, rusi

eqspertebi, mokled, midis ga-

nuwyveteli laparaki omis Se-

saxeb da moskovSi Cems megobar

laSa latarias aqvs biznesi,

ltolvili cxinvaleli qale-

bi midian masTan samuSaos

saTxovnelad da iwyeben kide-

vac muSaobas. amiT imis Tqma

minda, rom SeuZlebelia xalx-

Ta Soris urTierTobis gawyve-

ta da moSla, megobruli ur-

TierToba mainc imarjvebs.

jarebis sardlis yuraSvi-

lis gancxadeba msoflio sain-

formacio saSualebebma aita-

ces: `cxinvalSi saqarTvelos

konstituciuri wesrigis aRd-

genisTvis vawarmoebT omso~...

ar SeiZleba situaciis

iqamde miyvana, es danaSaulia,

oms politikosebi igeben, rom-

lebic Zalauflebaze arian

Seyvarebulni, aCaReben sisx-

lisRvrebs, raTa sisxliT Sei-

narCunon adamianebze batonoba.

omi dRes aris xalxisTvis po-

litikosebis mier nasroli

tyvia, sadac orive mxare agebs.

ase moiqca Tavis droze Sevar-

dnaZe, ase moiqca saakaSvilic.

urTierToba saxelmwifoebs

Soris iyo, aris da momaval-

Sic iqneba. rac Seexeba saakaS-

vilsa da putins Soris arse-

bul urTierTobas, kargia, rom

qarTvel da rus xalxebs So-

ris konfliqti ar arsebobs.

putinma araerTxel ganacxada,

araviTari Sexvedra da molapa-

rakeba ar meqneba saakaSvilTa-

no. 2008 wlis agvistos mov-

lenebis dros oon-is is uSiS-

roebis komitetis sxdomaze,

roca gadioda saqarTvelos sa-

kiTxi, maSindeli saqarTvelos

e.w. diplomatis alasanias

kiTxvaze: Tqvenma prezidentma

Cveni prezidentis zarze yur-

mili arc ki aiRoo, ruseTis

warmomadgeneli Curkini pasu-

xobs: vin daelaparakeba Tqvens

bandit da damnaSave preziden-

tso. marTalia, politika si-

carieles ver itans da yovel-

Tvis ivseba dinamiuri ZalebiT,

magram qarTul da rusul po-

litikas Soris gaCnda samedi-

cino problema, sadac profi-

laqtika ufro iafia, vidre

mkurnaloba.

politikosis mxridan nabi-

jis gadadgmis dros saWiroa

xolme politikis swori war-

marTva, ruseTis politika kav-

kasielebis mimarT yvelasTvis

cnobilia. rogorc ki Semovida

ruseTi kavkasiaSi da dadga

Tavisi rusuli Ceqma, erTi

dRiTac ki, dRevandeli dRis

CaTvliT, ar Sewyvetila kavka-

sielebis brZola damoukideb-

lobis da TavisuflebisTvis.

yvelas esmis, ruseTi didi da

Zlieri saxelmwifoa, magram es

ar niSnavs patara erebis mi-

marT, rogorc moeprianeba, ise-

Ti politika awarmoos.

ra Caidina da ras akeTebs

ruseTi CeCneTis mimarT ar

icis dasavleTma, an msofliom,

an saerTaSoriso organizaci-

ebma, Sedegi nulia. unda gavac-

nobieroT, rom kavkasielebi ar

ebrZvian rus xalxs, isini eb-

rZvian da ibrZoleben rusizmis

araswori politikis winaaRm-

deg.

__ bbaattoonnoo mmaaTTee,, ddRReess ssaaqqaarr-

TTvveellooSSii uuaammrraavvii pprroobblleemmaaaa,,

mmaaggrraamm mmTTaavvaarr ssaakkiiTTxxaadd SSaarrSSaann-

ddeellii ooqqttoommbbrriiss SSeemmddeegg bbiiZZiinnaa

iivvaanniiSSvviillii ddggaass.. aarrCCeevvnneebbii aaxx-

lloovvddeebbaa.. mmiiss kkooaalliicciiaass aarrCCeevv-

nneebbSSii ssxxvvaaddaassxxvvaannaaiirr pprroocceenn-

tteebbss uuwwiinnaasswwaarrmmeettyyvveelleebbeenn..

TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvvii-

llii ddaa mmiissii eelleeqqttoorraattii mmooaa-

xxeerrxxeebbss ggaammaarrjjvveebbaass mmooZZaallaaddee

xxeelliissuufflleebbaassTTaann,, rroommeellssaacc

aarraa ddaa aarr ssuurrss ZZaallaauufflleebbiiss

ddaaTTmmoobbaa??

_ saqarTveloSi saarCevno

maraToni, rom ityvian, kulmi-

naciisken midis. Cven, kanonieri

xelisuflebis warmomadgen-

lebs araerTxel gvaqvs gacxa-

debuli, rom yvelaferi, rac

xdeba dRes saqarTveloSi, am

saxelmwifo aparatis arsebo-

bac ki aris arakanonieri da

arakonstituciuri am sistemis

mier daniSnuli arCevnebic

aris arakanonieri. ismis kiTx-

va, icis es yvelaferi qarT-

velma xalxma? icis da mainc

midis arCevnebze?

sanam saqarTveloSi ar iq-

neba politikuri konkurenci-

is sistema da ara is modeli,

romelsac nacmoZraoba sTava-

zobs xalxs, dawynareba SeuZ-

lebeli iqneba. zogierTi la-

parakobs ruseTis modelze,

es modeli saqarTveloSi ver

gava da arc unda gavides. sa-

qarTveloSi an unda iyos

opozicia, an ara, da ara ise,

rogorc emersoni werda, par-

tiebi da seqtebi imisTvisaa

mogonili, adamianebs damouki-

debeli azrovnebis unari wa-

arTvaso... dRes saqarTvelo

dgas realuri problemis wi-

naSe. problema aris realu-

ric da mogonilic. vnaxoT,

xalxi romel problemac air-

Cevs.

is Zalaufleba, rasac

dRes saakaSvili iyenebs Tavisi

xalxis winaaRmdeg, amdenis

uflebas, saqarTvelos isto-

riaSi, arc erTi mefe ar aZ-

levda sakuTar Tavs, istoria

aravis arafers ki ar patiobs.

__ ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii ssaaaakkaaSSvviillss

bbeevvrrii eeZZaaxxiiss ddiiqqttaattoorrss,, zzooggss

iiss wwmmiinnddaawwyylliiss ddiiqqttaattoorrii aarr

hhggoonniiaa,, mmaaggrraamm ddiiqqttaattoorruukkaa kkii,,

TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, rraattoomm aarr rreeaaggii-

rreebbss ddaassaavvlleeTTii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii

aaRRmmoocceenneebbuull aavvttoorriittaarruull

rreeJJiimmzzee??

_ modiT gavarkvioT, risi

krizisia saqarTveloSi poli-

tikuri, socialuri, xelisuf-

lebis, Tu TviT xalxSia kri-

zisi? Cven ar viciT, miveCvieT,

Tu ase gvgonia, dasavleTs, an

msoflios aqvs Cveni vali, ra-

tom gvgonia, rom dasavleTma

unda gviSvelos? me istoriko-

si var da istoriaSi aseTi va-

lis Sesaxeb araferi msmenia.

saqme isaa, varT Tu ara mzad

samarTlianad vmarToT qveyana.

kanonierebis CarCoebSi vawar-

mooT xelisuflebis cvla?!

dasavleTisgan ras viTxovT,

ra gaakeTa evropam an adre, an

axla?! putinma ganacxada _ ev-

rokavSiri is xamia, romelmac

axali wevrebis saxiT lukmebi

moagrova, magram maT gadayla-

pas ver axerxebso... sworia am

SemTxvevaSi putini...

iranda kalandaZe

maTe cixesaSvili: maTe cixesaSvili: `CeCen xalxsxizris bodiSi ar sWirdeba~

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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17saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.

2008 wlis agvistos xuTdRian

omze, romelsac saqarTvelos xeli-

suflebis mxridan `samxreT oseTSi

konstituciis aRdgena~ ewoda Tavda-

pirvelad, xolo ruseTis mxridan

`ruseTis moqalaqeebis dacva~. bevri

iTqva da daiwera amaze. am Temaze

orive mxarem gadaiRo mxatvruli da

dokumenturi filmebi.

am ormxriv kinematografiul omSi

daibada 50-wuTiani dokumenturi

filmic, romlis saTauri iyo `omi

08. 08. 2008 muxanaTobis xelovneba~

da gavrcelda mTel msoflioSi ing-

lisur, espanur da germanul enebze

Targmnili. milionobiT mayurebelma

naxa es filmi da rogorc saqarTve-

los prezidentis danaSaulis video-

mowmem miiRo saTauri `filmi-wyevla

saakaSvilisa.~

`sameuli: saakaSvili, iuSCenko da

buSi unda CamoaxrCon!

dawyevlili iyos is qveynebi, ro-

melTac SeaiaraRes saqarTvelo Cveni

mravaltanjuli naciis gasanadgureb-

lad!

wyeuli iyos mixeil saakaSvili!!!~

_ ismis ojaxis xuTi mSvidobiani wev-

ris damkargavi, aseve mSvidobiani mcx-

ovrebis wyevla-godeba.

SeiZleba, nebismieri qveynis moqa-

laqe ar eTanxmebodes Tavisi qveynis

prezidentis politikur kurss, mag-

ram rodesac mis prezidents Seuar-

cxyofen, Tavmoyvareoba elaxeba da

raRacas mainc ityvis sapasuxod, mag-

ram ra qnas imave moqalaqem, roca mi-

si qveynis prezidents wyevlian Sinac

da gareTac? roca mkvlelad Tvlian

Sinac da gareTac?

rogorc amboben, omi saSinelebaa,

aravis indobs, Sesabamisad, arc

msxverplia ucxo, magram...

aris erTi iseTi `magram~, rasac

aranairi gamarTleba ar aqvs...

SemTxveviT, maJoritarobis erT-

erTi kandidatis amomrCevelTan Sex-

vedras Seveswari da aseve SemTxveviT

aRmovCndi muxrovanis samxedro na-

wilSi momxdari amboxisTvis Zebnili

da TianeTis gzatkecilze Catarebuli

specoperaciis dros mokluli pol-

kovnik gia krialaSvilis dedis, qal-

batoni lena nazariSvilis gverdze.

iqve patrulis mier zandukelis quCa-

ze mokluli giorgi gamcemliZis mama,

jambul gamcemliZe SevniSne meuRles-

Tan, guliko gamcemliZesTan erTad,

saqarTveloSi mravalTa msgavsad

cremlSeumSrali dedebi. odnav moSo-

rebiT, irine enuqiZis Zma gogi SevniS-

ne, kidev erTi gamwarebuli Zma da

sandro girgvlianis biZa...

lena nazariSvili: _ `me var

85 wlis yovelmxriv gamwarebuli da

ganadgurebuli deda. biWi xom momik-

les, qaliSvils usinaTlo Svili

hyavs da axla bankma bina gauyida. qma-

ri ar muSaobs, Svili ar muSaobs, ma-

mamTili 83 wlisaa, raRa unda imuSa-

os da ai, ase arian quCaSi, ai, ase

varT. ivaniSvilis gverdze ratom xar,

ratom dagexmarao da pensia damiyada-

Res _ ra vqna, ra gavakeTo! ra did

pensias me viRebdi, 120 lari mqonda,

magram Svilis sasaflaos vakeTebdi,

krediti aviRe da 66 larsRa viRebdi

_ isic damiyadaRes. mTeli dReebia

vtiri, Cemi sicocxle sicocxlea? me

miyida Svilma is adgili sasaflaoze,

me unda viyo iq da TviTon wavida mi-

waSi... ra un-

dodaT Cemi

Svilisgan! af-

xazeTi moiara,

cxinvali moia-

ra, 2008 wlis

agvistoSi sax-

lSi rom unda

C a mosuliyo ,

cx i n v alid a n

daWrilebi da

micvalebulebi gamohyavda. saakaSvili,

TviTon miwaze mixoxavda, sikvdilis

eSinoda da ai, aseTi mebrZoli xalxi

ki zogi xom daxoca, cixeSi kidev

ramdenia, vin moTvlis. ratom momikla

Svili, imitom, rom yvelaferi icoda,

rac xdeboda da moxda? _ moRalated

gamoiyvana. gasvenebaSi xalxi miTanag-

rZnobda, meubnebodnen, nu tirixar,

Seni Svili gmiri iyoo. gmiroba ar

mexareboda, Cemi Svili cocxali min-

da!

saakaSvili prezidenti ki ara, gi-

Jia, giJi!

magas moukvdes is ori Svili,

RmerTo!~

ragind `magari iyos miSa~, RmerTo,

netav, erT kacs ormagi wyevlis zid-

vis Zala Seswevs?

guliko gamcemliZe: _ `vin

esrola Cems Sv-

ils konkretu-

lad, amaze ar

maqvs saubari,

vTvli, rom saa-

kaSvilma momik-

la, radgan es

misma mowodebam

`nulovani tole-

rantoba!~ _ gamoiwvia...~

arcTu didi xnis win gavrcelda

videoCanaweri _ roza wyabelia, rome-

lic prezidentTan pirad problemebze

sasaubrod Sexvedras cdilobda, nac-

moZraobis aqtivistebma Zalis gamoye-

nebiT waiyvanes da sardafSi Caamwyv-

dies. rodesac es amba-

vi gaxmaurda, masTan

`mosafereblad~ saa-

kaSvili mivida: _

`vinc Cadgeba Cemsa da

gaWirvebul adamians

Soris, romelic mo-

sulia imisaTvis, rom

miTxras Tavisi gaWir-

veba da im Tqvenma Ta-

nasoflelebma, erTma-

orma, romlebmac moga-

yenes Seuracxyofa,

didi xania pasuxi va-

gebine _ es iqneba gak-

veTili yvelasaTvis~,

_ daamSvida didma nacionalma ,nacio-

nalebis tyvedyofili misTvis Cveuli

daulagebeli frazebiT.

sainteresoa, ra niSniT arCevs ba-

toni prezidenti gaWirvebulebs? –

faqtia, gaWirvebulad ar miaCnia yve-

la gaWirvebuli.

isic faqtia, rom srulebiT ar

anaRvlebs baton prezidents, vis

uWirs da ratom, miT umetes, Tu im

`gaWirvebuls~ samadlod gadagdebu-

li makaroni da zeTi ki ar unda, sa-

marTals eZebs...

gebelsis cnobili frazaa _

`sityva `kultura~ rom mesmis, xeli

iaraRisken~ gamirbis~. faqtobrivad,

igive emarTeba baton saakaSvils sity-

va `simarTlis~ (samarTlianobis, ka-

nonis) gagonebaze...

prezidents eSinia simarTlis!

prezidents eSinia Svilmokluli

dedebis, Svilmokluli mamebis!

prezidents eSinia 2008 wlis ag-

vistos omSi daRupuli vaJkacebis de-

debis!

diax, eSinia im mamaSvilis (asaTi-

ani) sulebis, Svili rom 2008 wlis

agvistos sasaklaosTvis gaimeta da

mama 2011 wlis 26 maisis sasaklaos-

Tvis...

diax, yvelafris eSinia prezi-

dents da gansakuTrebiT im cocxle-

bis, romelTac simarTle ician!

diax, eSinia da amitom daemala

foTSi, RvTismSoblis Sobis taZarSi

misuli agvistos omis dros daRu-

pulTa ZaZebiT Semosil dedebs da

maTTan erTad iq myof xalxs, ise ga-

iZurwa `meufis rezidenciisken~, dac-

vam araTu masTan vinmes miaxloeba, ga-

daRebis ufleba ar misca `gareul

Jurnalistebs~ da teritoriis dato-

veba moiTxova...

diax, eSinia da swored amitom, 19

ivliss, sanam stiqiiT dazaralebul

TelavSi imyofeboda prezidenti saa-

kaSvili, gamgeobis SenobaSi daamwyv-

dies Svilkvdari deda, meri marga-litaSvili da sanam prezidenti

ar wavida, ar

gamouSves. 20

ivliss isev

scada qalba-

tonma merim

prezidentTan

Sexvedra, magram

amaod, sod-is

kaxeTis sammar-

Tvelos ufro-

sis moadgilis daviT legaSvilis da-

valebiT igi Zalis gamoyenebiT Casves

manqanaSi da gaitaces _ ramdenadac

viciT, gomboridan ukan ar mibrunebu-

la prezidenti da arc aravin daus-

jia, ratom CadeqiT Cemsa da gaWirve-

bul adamians Soriso...

ramdenime dRis win TbilisSi fe-

xiT Camosul Svilmkvdar dedas (oja-

xis mtkicebiT, badri tabiZe polici-

elis cemis Sedegad gardaicvala) qe-

Tevan gadelias da mis qaliSvils

prezidentis rezidenciis misadgomebi

Zalis gamoyenebiT daatovebines. fe-

xiT eqvsdRiani msvlelobisa da oTx-

dRiani mjdomare aqciis Semdeg sameg-

reloSi iZulebiT daabrunes.

qeTevan gadelia: _ `damesien

25-30 patruli Tavis kameriT, miTx-

res, aq ukanonod zixar prezidentis

wino, unda

agiyvanoT da

wagiyvanoT sax-

lSio. uari

vuTxari, mag-

ram momkides

xeli, Cemi bav-

Svis suraTi

gamitexes~...

arc am Sem-

TxvevaSi gamo-

uRia xeli `gaWirvebulis~ gasaWiris

gamo baton prezidents, ar daswevia

rikoTze...

marTalia, es Svilmkvdari dedebis

dacinvisa da masxrad agdebis pirveli

da savaraudod (Tu xelisufleba ar

Seicvala), ukanaskneli SemTxveva ar

aris, magram mainc aravin kiTxulobs,

hyavs Tu ara `ylinjiReWia~ saakaS-

vils deda an dedismagvari vinme mainc

gulSematkivris saxiT da saqarTve-

los, RvTismSoblis garda, gulSemat-

kivari TviT qarTvelebis saxiT...

maia WeliZe

ormagi wyevla

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cxeniswyals gavcdi. movli-

li ezo-karebi abrundnen da,

rogorc mudam, gulSi sixaru-

li vigrZeni. svaneTidan movdi-

var, aWaridan movdivar Tu ime-

reTidan, samegrelos danaxvaze

suli mexsneba da vfiqrob, uf-

ro ki vvaraudob _ kolxuri

sisxli Cqefs-meTqi CemSi! sai-

dan sadao, _ kiTxvacaa, magram

Cveni warsulis Semxedvares,

gana raime unda gagikvirdes?

sadac megobari poeti, jar-

ji fxoveli meubneba erTxel:

veJo, Cemo davlo, iq, CvenSi,

erTi xevia, zafxulSi wyalm-

cire, avdarSi boboqari _ WiWe

xevad ixsenieben fxovelni... Se-

ni nano megrelia da aba, hkiTxe

`WiWe~ xom pataras niSnavs!

veTanxmebi da veubnebi Zmo-

bils, rom adamianebis didi ga-

daadgilebis Semdgom vin sad

gaCerda, vin romel adgils mi-

eyina, adgilobriv komlad, mo-

saxled iqca, es saidumloeba

mxolod RmerTma uwyis! Cemi

Svili rati _ bavSvobaSi, de-

duleTSi, senakis raionis so-

fel xorSSi, zafxulSi mxo-

lod oriod kviriT avida da

dabrunebulma ukve mTlianad,

enis borZikis gareSe icoda

megruli...

tial fiqrs ra gaaCerebs...

axla im midamoebSi vimyofebiT,

sadac 90-ian wlebSi zviad

gamsaxurdias momxreebs dasdev-

dnen, sadac dawyevlili Sevar-

dnaZe yaCaRebad qceul e.w.

jars agzavnida da moZmeT

sisxls aqcevda. gaocebuli

iyo Cemi colis biZa, senakSi

mobinadre kaci _ ra xalxi

gvesxmoda Tavs, ar mgonia qar-

Tvelebi yofiliyvnen... saSine-

lebaa, magram aucileblad ga-

saxsenebelia _ moTareSeebma

samegrelos erT-erT sofelSi

rogor daades Sublze iaraRi

ojaxis ufross, mamas da ubr-

Zanes sakuTari gogo gaeupati-

urebina! amgvari uRvTo ram

TviT saqarTvelos istoriaSi

ar saxeldeba... ar yofila mte-

ri, visac amgvari ram moefiq-

rebinos!.. Semdgom, am meoce sa-

ukunis jalaTebma SevardnaZis

jariskacebma, am ubeduri ka-

cis, Tvalwin gaaupatiures co-

lic, qaliSvilic da roca

sulgamwarebulma sTxova _ ba-

rem mec momkaliTo, _ jibria-

ni zeimiT wausisines, Sen unda

icocxlo da daitanjoo!

kidev giTxraT? rao? viRa-

ca meubneba _ amgvari saSinele-

bebi ra gasaxsenebeliao! ara da

ara, megobaro da Tan Sewuxebu-

lo unda giTxraT! unda Cagi-

lursmoT tvinSi, radgan is

cxoveli, is afTari, is leSi-

Wamia vinc tvinSi Caujina ma-

Sindel molaSqre marodio-

rebs, dRes wynarad ganisvenebs

krwanisis rezidenciaSi da

kvlav cdilobs, Tavisi sisx-

lis beltebiT savse, xorcis

naglejebiT amoyorili gvam-

stomaqi, magidaze dagvidos! ki-

dev cdilobs Wkua dagvarigos,

televiziis ekranidan Tu gaze-

Tebidan (romelTaganac ramde-

nime misi sakuTrebaa!) nadiris

qSeniT iCurCulos...sworedac

man moawyo yoveli ubedureba

saqarTveloSi, ris gamoc, amJa-

mad, daRupvis pirad vimyofe-

biT! swored misi gamozrdili

mtaceblebi ilokaven saxe-tu-

Cebs moZmeTa sisxliT gawiTle-

buli enebiT! swored isini

arian _ amJamad rom gvemuqre-

bian _ Cven veraviTari arCevne-

biT ver gadagvayenebT, Cvens

aSenebulSi sxvas aravis Sevad-

gmevinebT fexso!

saakaSvilma arasgziT ar

daapatimra SevardnaZe, radgan

igi misi moZRvaria! qarTveli

xalxi rogorc Cans verasodes

naxavs samsjavroze wayenebul

SevardnaZes, rac didad samwu-

xaroa!

aba naxeT batonebo, Semom-

xedeT, momismineT kidev ra

hqnes SevardnaZe-ioselian-ki-

tovanis pirsisxlianma yaCaReb-

ma: samegrelos erT-erT so-

felSi miadgnen saxls, sadac

dambezReblis TqmiT zviadis

momxre cxovrobda. gaesaubrnen:

_ Sen zviadisti xar!

_ ra aris zviadisti ar vi-

ci, magram zviad gamsaxurdias

pativs vcem, miyvars eg kaci...

Tqvenc unda mxarSi daudgeT

da saqarTvelo gadavarCinoTo...

_ saqoneli gyavs?

_ myavs...

_ gviCvene!

_ SevardnaZis marbielebma

mozveri iqve axlos mdeloze

dakles, Semdgom am sawyal

kacs muxlebSi TiTo tyvia Ca-

ujines, xel-fexi Seukres da

TiTqmis naxevar metrze CaTx-

ril samareSi Caawvines. cocx-

al kacs miwa miayares, zed

saflavze cecxli gaaCaRes,

Samfurebi gaTales, mwvadi

aaSiSxines da miyril miwis Ti-

Teul ganZrevaze _ vaSao, aR-

muvldnen!

cocxali kaci saflavSi ix-

rCoboda da ukanasknelad ebr-

Zoda mzakvar wuTisofels!

vin iyvneno, _ SemekiTxebiT.

_ vin iyvnen da zogierTi

maTgani dResac omis veteranis

wignakiT dadis da sinamdvile-

Si xelis TiTebze moZmeT piri-

dan amoglejili oqros kbile-

bisgan gadamdnari beWedi uke-

TiaT.

meti raRa gindaT, megobre-

bo! saakaSvilis televiziam,

amas winaT `profilSi~, asaTi-

anis qali rom uZRveba xom na-

xeT dodo gugeSaSvili, xom

datkbiT misi saubriT, xom isi-

amovneT misi simRerebiT da

`blatnoi~ laparakis maneriT,

xom iangeloza, xom ikekluca?

gana sazogadoebam mZafrad

gamoxata protesti? ra Tqma

unda ara!

mxolod sofeli darCeli,

samegrelos mxolod es ulama-

zesi sofeli SeZrwunda da ki-

dev erTxel Seecada eTqva

CvenTvis am dedakacis mier Ca-

denili saSineli danaSaulis

Sesaxeb.

iqneb goCa jiqias ambavic

gavixsenoT?

dedis wis axalgazrda kaci

gamoasalma wuTisofels!

`Svili ar momikla _ deda-

Svilobaso~, _ ase emudareboda

sabralo deda yaCaR oficers,

magram sad iyo maSin smena da

gagoneba? anda sad iyo goneba?

aba naxeT, rogoraa ayirave-

buli Cveni cxovreba _ maSin-

deli sardali yaryaraSvili

Zalian xSiradaa televiziis

ekranze da amJamad romeliRac

partiasTan misula axlos _

`erovnulebi~ hqvia Turme!

xom aris SeSlili es Cveni

samyaro? goCa jiqias loginSi

Caawvines Sepyrobili yaryaraS-

vili zviad gamsaxurdias momx-

reebma...

vinmes uSvela amgvarma sama-

gieros gadaxdam?

sandro kavsaZe trabaxobda

_ samegrelos tyveobaSi Zlivs

vpove simSvideo!

aseTia dRevandeli suraTi

da ufro uaresi is gaxlavT,

rom politikur scenaze mrav-

lad ireva, mravlad moCans sa-

qarTelos damaqcevarTa, armia-

Si momsaxure personali! usir-

cxvilod miiweven karieris ki-

beebze. aq viRas ar naxavT _

mxedrionelebs, gvardielebs,

iaraRiT morbenal biW-buWebs,

romlebmac 1991-1992 wlebSi

moaxdines kanonieri xelisuf-

lebis damxoba da dRes mxo-

lod ruseTs abraleben!

saakaSvilis politikurma

fandma _ rom ruseTi gaxldaT

erTaderTi mteri Cveni qveyni-

sa, yoelive Cafarcxa da

CrdilSi moasvena. Cveni, qarT-

veli banditebi, ZmaTamkvlele-

bi, Turme arasodes arsebobd-

nen. yvelaferi sxvebma hqnes!

arada, saxadi jerac mosax-

delia!

Tavis droze, jer kidev

1980 wels, zviad gamsaxurdi-

am kargad Seiswavla da Semd-

gom gamoaqveyna `saubrebi sa-

murzayanoSi 1980 wels~. sa-

erTo dasaTaureba am Temisa

gaxldaT `samegrelos sa-

kiTxi~. zviads hqonda mTeli

cikli am saWiroboroto sa-

kiTxebis Sesaxeb. maT erqva:

`osTa sakiTxi~, `afxazeTis

sakiTxi~...

amJamad vimyofebi avtobus-

Si, mivemgzavrebi zugdidisken,

ra Tqma unda, vfiqrob `sameg-

relos sakiTxze~, radgan 2012

wels, oqtomberSi arCevnebia!

yvelam icis, rogor ibrZvis

saakaSvili _ ramenairad Seir-

gos arCevnebi. iseTi suraTia,

rom am dRevandel prezidents

Zalzed aZlevs xels mtris Se-

moWrac! raTa? imitom, rom...

did imperias xom ver moereva?

unda gaiqces! biWos, es ltol-

vilad qceuli, muStebs awevs

da mTel msoflioSi imogzau-

rebs rogorc devnili! amaT mas

SerCeba yovelive danaSauli,

rac ki Caidina!

arCevnebi Tu ise gaayalba,

rom umravlesobaSi darCa, es

ukve misi umaRlesi sasjelia!

Tu waago _ xalxma sakuTa-

ri xma rom daicvas, xom unda

gamovides quCaSi?

ityvis saakaSvili _ Seia-

raRebuli ajanyebaao da Zalas

gamoiyenebs!

amitom, aSkarad Cans, rom

amJamad samegrelos, oseTis da

afxazeTis sakiTxebi erTad un-

da Seikras da dadges _ saqar-

Tvelos gadarCenis sakiTxi!

asecaa _ batoni biZina iva-

niSvili sworedac am sakiTxis

gadawyvetas lamobs. sworedac,

Cinebulad moiqca batoni irak-

li alasania, rom zugdidSi iy-

ris kenWs.

riski aris?

_ ki, batono, didia riski,

magram, gana sxva gza da sxva

xsna arsebobs?

ra xdeba amJamad samegre-

loSi?

SeSinebulia Tu ara xalxi?

saakaSvils kvlav walenji-

xidan surs azvavdes da Camog-

rialdes TbilisSi Tu sxva

ram Caifiqra?

iqneb sulac kaxeTi airCia,

sadac setyvam da Rvarcofma

yvelaferi daaqcia?

mizezi hqondaT muSaobisa!

exmarebian da CasCiCineben _

mxolod Cven gadagarCenTo!

samegreloSi politikuri

procesebi sul sxvagvarad vi-

Tardeba _ nacionalebi xalxs

aSineben _ sul erTia mainc ga-

gakontrolebT _ vis miscemT

xmas, amisi xerxebi viciT. saar-

Cevno urnasTan yvelafers Cavi-

werT, gadagiRebT, dagafiqsi-

rebTo!

bevrma daijera, radgan

ifiqra: eseni iseTi mamaZaRle-

bi arian, amasac SeZlebeno!

amas ra eSveleba, Ze-xorci-

elma ar icis!

rogorc Cans, samegrelos

sakiTxi unda daisvas mTlianad

saqarTvelos sakiTxis konteq-

stSi!

avtobusi SeCerda abaSaSi.

aq, marjvniv, sul ramdenime ki-

lometrSi, konstantine gamsa-

xurdias saxl-muzeumia...

aq erovnul-ganmaTavisuf-

lebeli moZraoba awyobs Sekre-

bas da mxars dauWers `qarTul

ocnebas~: es didi Zala da ime-

dia!

magram...

es ambavi icis saakaSvilmac!

aravin icis, ra nabijiT

upasuxebs igi!

avtobusi daiZra. mwvaniT

Semosil ezoSi, WasTan erTi

sandomiani moxuci davinaxe da

mivamsgavse TvalisCindakargul

aCiko anTias, romelic mxedri-

onelebma zviadis momxreobis

gamo saSinlad awames... arada,

devnili zviad gamsaxurdia,

roca aCiko anTias estumra,

roca xeli gauwoda misasal-

meblad, brma moxucma jer er-

Ti xeli CamoarTva, mere orive

dauWira da davsili TvalTupe-

ebi zemoT aabruna: xom var

uCino da arasodes araferi da-

minaxavs! axla, mxolod er-

Txel ganaTda da gxedav, Sen

zviad gamsaxurdia xar!

amis gagonebaze yvela gamS-

rala! ramdenime kacs cremlmac

dausvela Tvali... gaocebuli

zviadi, Sublze eambora mo-

xucs da ise gamosula WiSkri-

dan!

sxvac momagonda: jixaSkar-

Si, zarandias ezoSi dakrZalu-

li zviadis neStis gamo, oja-

xis ufrosi dahkiTxes da bra-

li wauyenes _ ratom daTanxm-

di Sens karmidamoSi daekrZa-

laT zviadio... pasuxad ase uT-

qvams zarandias: Tqve dalocvi-

lebo _ SevardnaZisTvis yeli

rom gamoeWraT da Cems saxlSi

moetanaT, gana uars vetyodi

damarxvazeo?

umowyalod ucemiaT zaran-

dia amis gamo!

mogonebebiT daxunZluli

vuaxlovdebi zugdids.

saarCevno kampania umaRles

fazaSia!

mdgomareoba daZabulia!

samegrelos Tavisufleba

eocnebeba!

RmerTo, xeli moumarTe

saqarTvelos.

jemal davlianiZe

samegrelos Tavisufleba eocnebeba

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19saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.

saakaSvilis nabodvaris gan-

xilva dRes iseTive uazrobaa,

rogorc Tavad misi “personis”

irgvliv saubaric. es sazoga-

doebis yuradRebis gadatanis

da gulis fxanis teqnologiu-

ri meTodia. iliam gviTxra:

“fxana qecma iciso”. Cven ki am

Wkuidan gadamdgari kacis wamo-

roSilis garCeviT “qeciT ga-

mowveul fxanas” ufro vewe-

viT, vidre “qecis gamomwvevi

mizezis” povnas da rac yvela-

fer amis ukan SeiZleba idges.

saakaSvilisgan “vefxistyaos-

nis” citirebisadmi aseTi

ltolvac swored misi CareviT

xdeba, “romelman Seqmna samya-

ro ZaliTa miT ZlieriTa”. ada-

mians Tmis Reric ar Camouvar-

deba uflis nebis gareSe. saa-

kaSvils ki axla ukve SeuRebav

Tmas ki ara, uRmerTobis gamo,

male bRuja-bRuja daaputinebs

Tmas ufali. ukve ise “gaaputi-

na”, “gamoputinda” da gamopru-

tunda, rom ruseTis SiSiT bag-

ratis taZris dangrevac ru-

sul artilerias miawera. Tur-

me gorSi tertera Zmis patro-

ni babuamisis sanukvari ocnebac

“bagratis sakaTedro taZris”

aRdgena da masze jvris aRmar-

Tva yofila?! “samagaliTo Svi-

liSvilma” ki es ocneba ausru-

la. yovelgvari garCevebis ga-

reSe, yvelafers martiv axsnas

movunaxavT, Tu mimdinare pro-

cesebsa da saakaSvilis “gapu-

tineba-gamoprutunebas” isev

bibliuri da igive “vefxistya-

osnis” kuTxiT ganvixilavT.

SoTas xelTuqmneli poemis

(romelic saakaSvils leqsi

hgonia, radgan meleqse, misi

mokle WkuiT, mxolod leqseb-

sa wers) “vefxistyaosnis” Si-

naarsic xom swored bibliis

asli da kalkia, sadac garkve-

viT weria, rom farisevel-Tal-

mudistebisa da qristes fexis-

mkvnetelebis bolo axloa! sa-

qarTveloze ki pirdapiraa naT-

qvami, rom: “ 8. vici saqmeni

Senni: aha, mogeci Sens winaSe

gaxsnili kari, da veravin Ses-

Zlebs mis daxSvas. Sen mciredi

Zala gaqvs, magram daimarxe

sityva Cemi da ar uaryav saxe-

li Cemi. 9. aha, me viqm imas,

rom satanis sakrebulodan,

maTgan, romelnic amboben iude-

velni varTo, da ar ki arian,

aramed cruoben; aha, me viqm

imas, rom movidnen da Tayvani

gcen Sens ferxTa winaSe, da

scnon, rom me Segiyvare Sen. 10.

rakiRa daimarxe sityva Cemi

moTminebisa, mec dagicav gan-

sacdelis Jams, romeli moiweva

mTel qvyanaze miwis mkvidrTa

gamosacdelad. 11. aha, moval

male. mtkiced ipyar, raca

gaqvs, raTa aravin wargtacos

Seni gvirgvini. 12. mZlevels

vyof burjad mamis Cemis taZar-

Si, da aRarasdros gava gareT,

da davawer mas saxels Cemi

RmerTisas da saxels Cemi

RmerTis qalaqis- axali ieru-

salimisas, romelic zeciT Ca-

modis Cemi RmerTisgan, da Cems

axal saxels.” ( gamocx. ioane-

si T. 3-4 ) axla imazea sauba-

ri saWiro, rom “mtkiced gvepy-

ras raca gvaqvs, raTa aravin

wargvtacos Cveni gvirgvini”-

sarwmunoeba, ena da miwa-wyali.

is, rasac saakaSvilis xeli-

sufleba mosvlis dRidan cdi-

lobs da ara is, ramden sisu-

leles wamoroSavs gankiTxvis

SiSiT Wkuidan gadamdgari saa-

kaSvili. sxva procesebi mimdi-

nareobs, Cveni yuradReba ki

sul xva Temebze gadahyavT. uw-

minduri siwmindeebisken ilt-

vis. sxva axsnac ar moeZebneba

imasac, rom eklesis karis Se-

mangreveli, eklesiebis damang-

reveli, jvrebis momTxreli da

iuneskos klturuli memkvidre-

obis nusxidan bagratis taZris

ganxrax amomRebeli saakaSvili,

jvris aRsamarTad, TavisiT

aportyda “misgan aRdgenil bag-

ratis taZarze”. axla goris

me-6 saukunis “taZris aRdgena

daiwyes”, raTa istoriul-kul-

turuli TvalsazrisiT, isic

mospon da gaanadguron. (marto-

oden simxdalis gamo “stra-

xovkis” gareSe ver gabedavda

taZris gumbaTze asvlas) “mi-

Sas aRdgenili bagratis taZa-

ri” patriarqs unda ekurTxa,

is ki ar mivida. “miSas mamobi-

li kalistrates” iq dgoma

arafers niSnavs. masonTa araer-

Ti loJis saxelic uwminduri

survilebis gamo iniRbeba sxva-

dasaxva religiuri saxelwode-

bebiT. saakaSvilis msgavsad,

isinic farisevel-mwignobarTa

memkvidreebi da mimdevrebi ari-

an. qristes uarmyofeli

mRvdelmTavrebis memkvidreeb-

sac aRsarebaSi araerTxel

uRiarebiaT, rom mesia (qriste)

ukve gamocxadebul iyo dedami-

waze. simdidris siyvarulSi,

kerpTayvanismcemlobasa da gar-

yvnil cxovrebaSi mxilebis ga-

mo ki maT ar miiRes is. saakaS-

vilica da misi ideologi

“msoflio mamebic” kargad

grZnoben, rom dRes “satanis

sakrebulodan” mosuli ideo-

logiisTvis qristes sarwmuno-

ebis Tayvaniscemis dro dgeba!

globalizacia, “singapuriza-

cia” da cru kosmopolitizmic

is bolo gafarTxalebaa, ris

Semdegac nacionaluri moZrao-

bisa da saakaSvilis, (iseve ro-

gorc msoflioSi am ideologi-

is boloc), luciferTan erTad

kvlav qvesknelSi gamomwyvdeva

iqneba. axalcixeSi rabaTis ci-

xis rekonstruqciaSi qarTveli

xalxis 19 milionis gadayras,

aznauriancisTvis iq varkvlavis

gaxsnas da “vinme mesxi meleq-

sis” gaxsenebas mxolod is

datvirTva hqonda, saakaSvils

(saqarTvelos saboloo daSlis

gegmis mixedviT) msofliosTvis

daedasturebina, rom jer erTi,

javaxeTi somxuri mxarea. meo-

rec, rom aqedan warmoSobili

“vinme mesxi meleqsec”, rogorc

“rabaTis ZirSi fexadgmuli me-

rabiSvili” TavasTavad somexi

gamodis. mosazreba moZme sam-

vel arapetianmac gaumyara:

“axalcixis rabaTis cixis

mflobelebi iyvnen qalkedonu-

ri aRmsareblobis somxebio”.

ra drosac rusTvelologebi

da enaTmecnierebi “sparsulad

naTargmanebi” ambis istoriul

adgilmdebareobaze imtvreven

Tavs, saakaSvils es ukve “da-

udgenia”_ rostevans rabaTis

cixeSi ucxovria. nestan-dare-

jani ki “am cixeSi ar mjdara,

radgan es qajeTis cixe ar

aris” Turme. iqneb sworedac

aris, radgan am mxaridan war-

moSobili arimanebi sworedac

“qajoben, eSmakoben, Winkoben da

satanistoben”, rogorc saqarT-

veloSi, ise mTels msoflio-

Si?! goridan (somxurad, `ara~)

babuamisis warmoSobisa da iq

cixe-simagris aSenebis survi-

lic ar damala. goric somxu-

ri yofila, radgan saakaSvilis

babuas ucxovria iq. saakaSvi-

lis “rusTvelologiuri wiaR-

svlebis” ganxilvisa da bibli-

uri paralelebisas ratomRac

ar aRniSnaven, rom bibliaSi

naxseneb antiqristes saxelwo-

debebidan _ luciferi, satana,

behemoTi da arimani, (igive ar-

meni) ukanaskneli pirdapir kav-

SirSia armenebTan. Tavadac da

msoflioc maT armenebs uwode-

ben. somxebi ki indoevropel,

Cv.w. aR-mde VII saukuneSi,

urartus maxloblad dasaxle-

bul tomebs daarqves qaldeve-

li Sumerebis memkvidre qarTve-

lebma. ucxo miwa-wyalze da-

saxlebul tomebs ki, (ramdena-

dac Tavisi araferi gaaCndaT),

xan qaldeur Sumerebs (saqarT-

velos), xan kabadokias, xanac

mezobel saxelmwifoebs taceb-

dnen droebiT teritoriebs,

enasa da kulturas. amgvari

mtacebluri periodi iyo “tig-

ran didis” mefobisas droebiT

Seqmnili “didi armeniis” mok-

le xana. ris Semdega, yvela sa-

xelmwifom daibruna Camosax-

lebuli armenebisgan mitacebu-

li istoriuli miwebi. somxe-

bad wodebuli armenebi ki

dRemde ararsebul “did armeni-

as” mistirian da gavleniani

lobis meSveobiT cdiloben sa-

qarTvelosTvis im istoriuli

miwa-wylis warTmevas, rac maTi

arasdros yofila da verc ve-

rasdros gaxdeba. Tavad armene-

bad wodebuli somxebi ki, rom

ara mezobeli qristiani saxel-

mwifoebis mfarveli daviT aR-

maSenebeli _ saerTod gaqre-

bodnen dedamiwidan. maT, samwu-

xarod, saqarTvelos sawinaaRm-

degod araerTxel SeukravT pi-

ri iranTan da sxva dampyrob-

Tan, raTa maTi kelganwyobis

mopovebiT, saqarTvelosTvis

warTmiaT da somxeTisTvis mie-

erTebinaT qarTuli miwebi. ami-

erkavkasiidan saqarTvelos,

azerbaijanisa da somxeTis res-

publikebis gamoyofam da sazR-

vrebis dadgenam, am armenebis am

survils garkveuli droiT

wertili dausva. Tumca arima-

nis memkvidre daSnakebs “didi

armeniis” aRdgenis sanukvar

ocnebaze fiqri arasdros Se-

uwyvetiaT. marTlmadidebluri

ruseTis gavlenis saqarTvelo-

ze Sesustebasa da aSS-s gavle-

nis gavrcelebaze yvelaze xel-

sayreli saSualeba ki somxuri

lobis meSveobiT (rusulisac

da amerikulisac) xelisufle-

baSi 90-iani wlebidan araqarT-

veli da armenuli fesvebis

adamianTa moyvana unda gamxda-

riyo. makkeinis fondis dafinan-

sebul “feradovani revoluci-

ebis” maisurebze “kmara” da

“poras” garda, yirgizeTs, uk-

rainas, saqarTvelos, azerbai-

janisa da ruseTis gaswvriv

ewera: “to be done” - “unda

Sesruldes”. ar ewera mxolod

armenia. anu armeniaSi es revo-

lucia ar igegmeboda. antiqris-

tes taxtis gasamzadeblad gan-

kuTvnili globalizaciis pro-

cesic, yvela tradciuli re-

ligiis, gansakuTrebiT ki fari-

sevel-mwignobarTaTvis miuRe-

bel marTlmadideblobasTan br-

Zolas rom gulisxmobs _ dRes

dafaruli aRaraa. iranTan mo-

salodneli eskalaciis piro-

bebSi ki gamorcxuli araa, (di-

di xnis ocnebis axdenis gamo),

armenebi ruseTis zurgiT da

maTi interesebisTvis axlac

Zvel mokavSires _ irans gau-

rigdnen. qarTuli saxelmwifo-

ebriobis gauqmebis interesiT

(mefis ruseTis sasargeblod),

moqmedebda generali lazarevi

(lazariani), rodesac saqarTve-

los samefos gauqmebaSi aqtiur

monawileobas piradad Rebu-

lobda. ukanaskneli qarTveli

dedoflis gaupatiurebac ki

scada. gmirma dedofalma ki is

xanjalze wamoago. samwuxaroa,

rom saqarTveloSi dabadebuli

da gazrdili armenuli warmo-

Sobis adamianebi dRemde ver

acnobiereben imas, rom saqarT-

velo maTi samSoblocaa da

ararsebul “did armeniaze” oc-

nebis axdenis mizniT saqarTve-

losTvis zurgSi laxvaris Ca-

cema yovelTvis sazianod ub-

rundebaT. ukve gacxadebuli

bolo Jamis araerTi niSnebisas

ki vis, Tu ara “arimanis memk-

vidreebs” unda wamoewyoT

RvTismSoblis wilxvedri sa-

qarTvelos winaaRmdeg mzakvro-

ba. me-11 saukunis Semdgom, bi-

zantiis mier gauqmebul “arme-

niasac” eCmiadinis sapatriarqo

marTavda. religiis antisaxel-

mwifoebrivi kanonis miRebiT

(saakaSvilisgan qarTuli samo-

ciqulo eklesiis gavlenis Se-

sustebis SemTxvevaSi), swored

eCmiaZinis sapatriarqo aiRebs

saakaSvilis mier danawevrebu-

li da savaraudod, somxeTisT-

vis mierTebuli javaxeTis mar-

Tvasac Tavze. amasobaSi ki qu-

TaisSi gadatanili “meore de-

daqalaqiT”, gza im Tbilisiske-

nac exsnebaT, romlis aRebac

armenebma jer kidev wina sauku-

nis dasawyisSi scades. “vinme

mesxi meleqsis” gaxsenebac da

rabaTis cixis aRdgenac, swo-

red eSmakeulTa mociqulebis,

nacionalebis saboloo gafar-

Txalebas unda niSnavdes. rac

iseve, rogorc bibliaSi dawe-

rili yvela sxva winaswarmety-

veleba, bibliuri qaldeveli

eris saboloo gamarjvebiT das-

ruldeba. “gamoprutinebuli”

da putinis landze SeSinebuli

saakaSvili ki ufalma ukve iseT

dReSi Caagdo, rom taZris Tav-

ze jvaric Tavisi xeliT aRa-

marTvina. “jvari romaelebmac

aRmarTes” da zed farisevel-

mwignobar mRdelmTavarTa

moTxovniT qristec avnes. am sa-

Sinel codvas ki maTi STamomav-

lobebi Seewira da dResac ewi-

reba. saakaSvilsa da mis mamo-

bil mRvdelmTavrebs awi ve-

Rarc taZrebis aRdgena (anu ga-

nadgureba) uSveliT da veRarc

muxlCoqviT saqarTvelos yvela

taZris Semovla.. aTonis mTida-

nac maxaTas mTaze dasabrZaneb-

lad da saqarTvelos gadasarCe-

nad “RvTismSoblis portaitis

(karibWis) xats” elis sruli-

ad saqarTvelo. Cveni qveyana

dResac ki im “or zRvas Sua sa-

omari leloa”, romelzec male

beTlemis (da ara sxva) varskv-

lavi gabrwyindeba, radgan `da-

weril ars, rom bWeni jojoxe-

Tisani ver erodian mas”.

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20 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.

xelisuflebas mxolod axla gaax-

senda, rom qveyanaSi totaluri umu-

Sevrobaa. dasaqmebis saministroc ki

Seiqmnes 6 mln. biujetiT, magram sa-

idan dafinansdeba axali saministro

_ ucnobia. radganac saxelmwifo xa-

zinas am mizniT Tanxebi gamoyofili

ar aqvs.

ssaammiinniissttrrooss mmuuSSaaoobbaa

iiZZuulleebbiiTT ddaaiiwwyyoo

dasaqmebis saministros droulad

unda eCvenebina Sedegebi. sxva rom ve-

raferi moifiqres `nacebis mier~ da-

Sinebul mcire biznessa da mewarmeebs

miadgnen. indmewarmeebs aiZuleben sa-

muSaod miiRon dausaqmeblebi.

rogorc `Tavisufal asociaciaTa

kavSirSi~ acxadeben, gamokvlevebiT

cxadi xdeba, Tu ra mZime SromiT da

moralur pirobebSi uxdebaT muSaoba

iZulebiT Tavsmoxveulebs. maT sjian

umniSvenolo darRvevebisaTvis (5-wT-

iani dagvianeba, adre wasvla). am dar-

RvevebisaTvis xelfasebidan aWrian

Tanxebs. maTTvis gaigivebulia arasa-

patio da sapatio gacdenebi. axalmo-

sulebs sxva TanamSromlebisagan gan-

sxvavebiT ar unazRaureben samuSao

saaTebis gadametebiT namuSevars. igi-

ve xdeba dasvenebis (albaT, momaval-

Si sadResaswaulo) dReebSi namuSeva-

ris anazRaurebis drosac. axladda-

saqmebulze Tanxis dazogvis mizniT

ufrosoba maT civ, bnel, nestian

oTaxebSi amuSavebs. ZiriTad dasaqme-

bulebTan SedarebiT problemebia

xelfasis, namuSevrebis anazRaureba-

Sic. axladdasaqmebuls odnav preten-

ziis gamoTqmis SemTxvevaSi, preten-

ziuls pasuxoben _ ar mogwons, wa-

di.

iZulebiT Tavsmoxveul dasaqmebu-

lebs xelisuflebis SiSiT ufrosoba

pirdapir ver uTiTebs karisken, mag-

ram iseT pirobebs uqmnian, rom Tvi-

Ton daweron gancxadeba gaTavisuf-

lebaze.

nacebi dausaqmeblobaze `gulSe-

moyrilni~ saubroben. Tumca arasam-

Tavroboebis SekiTxvas, Tu ra bedi

eliT maT dasaqmebas, dumiliT uvli-

an gverds.

maTi damokidebuleba kargad war-

moCinda, rodesac `umuSevarTa kav-

Sirma~ gancxadeba Seitana. csko-Si

(sareferendumo) raTa miecaT misTvis

ufleba CaetarebinaT referendumi

umuSevarTaTvis Semweobis gacemis

aucileblobis Taobaze. vard-eklos-

nebiT dakompleqtebulma cskom uariT

upasuxa _`sareferendumo sakiTxi

(umuSevarTaTvis Semweobis gacema)

saxelmwifoebrivi mniSvnelobis sa-

kiTxs ar warmoadgenso.

uuccxxooeelleebbss aassaaqqmmeebbeenn

qqaarrTTvveelleebbii

ssaazzRRvvaarrggaarreeTT

lluukkmmaa-ppuurriiss

ssaaSSoovvnneellaadd ggaarrbbiiaann

maSin, rodesac qveyanaSi masobri-

vi umuSevrobaa, Sromisunariani axal-

gazrdobis, specialistebis didi na-

wili sazRvargareT garbis. saakaS-

vils saeWvo garigebebis safuZvelze

CvenSi grandiozul mniSvnelobebs

ucxour kompaniebs awarmoebinebs. ma-

Tac samuSaod Tavisi xalxi Camoh-

yavT. ar arsebobs araviTari winapi-

roba, SeTanxmeba adgilobrivebis da-

saqmebisa.

`Tbilisis iusticiis saxls~ Ci-

nuri kompania `xuan Cuanlimited kom-

pani~ aSenebs. Camosulia 150 Cineli.

erT amdens kidev elodebian. saqarT-

velos 50 moqalaqea dasaqmebuli. Ci-

nel muSas 70 lars uxdian. qarTvels

30. reestrSi ar arsebobs araviTari

informacia mSeneblobis Sesaxeb. mi-

uRwevelia informacia imis Taobaze,

Tu ra gziT moipova Cinurma kompani-

am mSeneblobis ufleba. Tbilisis Se-

movliTi gzis tenderi kompania `inJ-

mSenma~ mopova. man samuSaoebis Sesas-

ruleblad Camoiyvana `CineTis rkinig-

zis 23-e mudmivmoqmedi filiali~. mas

Camohyva Cineli muSaxelic. samuSao-

ebs mxolod 17 qarTveli (muSa) as-

rulebs. qarTvelebs mZime samuSao pi-

robebi aqvT. Cinelis yoveldRiuri

xelfasi 80 laria, Cveni moqalaqisa

ki 23. arakvalificiurad nawarmoebi

samuSaoebis gamo gvirabi 2-jer Camo-

ingra. Cinuri kompaniis Sesaxeb `inJ-

mSenSi~ informacias mkacrad asaidum-

loeben.

quTaisSi parlamentis Senobas, Zi-

riTadad, espanelebi aSenebdnen da

aSeneben, maTTan SedarebiT mcire-

ricxovan qarTvel muSebs gacilebiT

naklebi xelfasebi da mZime samuSao

aqvT. rusTavis metalurgiul qarxa-

naSic muSa-xelSi SeiniSneba indoel-

Ta siWarbe. iqac qarTvelebi naklebad

anazRaurebadi xalxia.

umuSevarTa kavSiris ganmartebiT,

xelisufleba yovelives saqmis kurs-

Sia. Tavis droze mas problemaze re-

agireba ar mouxdenia. magram axla

xom arCevnebia kars momdgari?!

zaza bilixoZe

`o, sporto, Sen moiTxov umaRles

zneobriobas, samarTlianobas, moralur

siwmindes, mousyidvelobas~. es sityvebi

frangma mweralma da sazogado moRawem

pier de vebertenma, Tanamedrove olimpi-

uri TamaSebis aRdgenis iniciatorma

1912 wels, zustad 100 wlis win dawe-

ra. im dros igi ukve saerTaSoriso

olimpiuri komitetis prezidenti iyo.

vebertinis `wigni~ dResac saxelmZRvane-

loa msoflio olimpiur moZraobaSi.

mcire ritorikuli eqskursi imisT-

vis dagvWirda, rom saubedurod, dRes

saqarTveloSi yvelaferi politizire-

bulia, maT Soris sporti da olimpiu-

ri moZraoba. amis dasturad Tundac

wlevandeli olimpiuri TamaSebic ga-

modgeba. qveynis nakrebis wevrs jer agi-

neben, asparezobis Semdeg ki fizikur an-

gariSsworebasac upireben. Tanac igive

olimpiuri delegaciis wevrebi! saube-

durod, saqarTvelos olimpiuri komi-

tetis prezidenti didxans dumda, vi-

Tomc araferi momxdariyos, gaakeTa ko-

mentari, magram Tavad sportsmens dasdo

brali SantaJSi! `iq araferi gansakuT-

rebuli ar momxdarao~, _ esec Tqva.

rodesac sportsmeni, olimpiuri nak-

rebis wevri, TamaSebis aralegalurad,

ucxoeli megobris daxmarebiT tovebs,

farTo ganxilvis sagani unda yofiliyo,

rigiTi movlena namdvilad ar aris! ase

iqneboda nebismier civilizebul qveyana-

Si, magram, samwuxarod, mxolod CvenTan

ara!

qveynis prezidentmac axsena london-

Si momxdari faqti, magram sportsmeni

masxarad aigdo. samarTliania? vfiq-

robT, namdvilad ara. `sportis ganviTa-

reba da cxovrebis jansaRi wesis damk-

vidreba qarTuli saxelmwifos erT-er-

Ti mTavari prioritetia da ase iqneba

momavalSic~. es mixeil

saakaSvilis sityvebia,

romelic 2008 wels

pekinis olimpiadis mo-

nawileebTan Sexvedri-

sas gaakeTa sakuTar re-

zidenciaSi. sinamdvile-

Si ra xdeba saqarTve-

loSi. xelisufleba sa-

kuTari politikuri

miznebisTvis iyenebs

sportsmenebs. saubedu-

rod arc sakuTari

xalxis winaaRmdeg ga-

moyenebas erideba, im

sportsmenebisa, romle-

bic mosaxleobis kumirebi unda yofi-

liyvnen sportul arenaze da ara poli-

tikur muSti-krivSi.

samtrediaSi, rogorc cnobilia, de-

putatobis maJoritar kandidatad `qar-

Tuli ocnebidan~ saxelovani qarTveli

fexburTeli kaxi kalaZea dasaxelebuli,

romelic Tavis mSobliur qalaqSi wina-

saarCevno Sexvedrebs marTavs. mis wina-

aRmdeg Tbilisidan `desanti~ gaemgzavra

saqarTvelos sportis ministris lado

varZelaSvilis meTaurobiT. rogorc Se-

vityveT, `zonder-desantebis~ razmi Zi-

riTadad sportsmenebiT aris dakompleq-

tebuli arSemdgari aTletebiT, visac

sportul asparezze Tavi verafriT ga-

moiCina. ra mizeziT unda daupirispir-

des fizikurad sxvadasxva saxeobis

sportsmenebi erTmaneTs? Suri? albaT,

gamoricxuli araferia, magram samwuxa-

rod, mTavari mizezi politikaa. ki, ba-

tono, dauWire mxari visac gsurs, mag-

ram fizikurad gauswordes oponents

vfiqrob, sportsmenis mxridan sakuTar

xalxze xelis aRmarTva amoraluria.

kidev erTi faqti, romelic sazoga-

doebisTvis gaxda cnobili. erT-erTi

zonderis mama kanonieri qurdiao, gaax-

maures lado varZelaSvilma ki es Cveu-

lebriv faqtad miiRo, mere ra moxdao,

Tqva. es maSin, rodesac rigiT

qarTvelebs ubralod, qurdebTan

nacnobobis mizeziT zogs iWeren,

zogs ki samsaxuridan aTavisuf-

leben. gavixsenoT Tundac qarT-

veli fexburTeli, erovnuli nak-

rebis wevri giorgi demetraZe,

gana nacnobobisTvis ar ixdis

sasjels? sportis ministri ki

kriminalebis meSveobiT cdilobs

miznebis miRwevas. gana ormagi

standarti ar aris, rodesac krimina-

lebTan mebrZoli xelisuflebis maRal-

Cinosani maTTan aris dakavSirebuli?

Tumca amas vin dagidevT, win arCevnebia!

dro ki ulmoblad garbis. sporti,

faqtobrivad, gaeros rolSia. dRes fu-

Wad gafantuli dro xval-zeg Segvaxse-

nebs Tavs, rodesac saerTaSoriso sarbi-

elze is mokrZalebuli Sedegebic sanat-

reli gagvixdeba. xom ar jobia sportis

mesveurebma TavianT saqmes mixedon, xo-

lo saarCevno kompaniaSi monawileobis

asparezi politikosebs dauTmon? albaT,

gacilebiT ukeTesi iqneba.

kidev erTi politikuri tendencia,

romelic damkvidrda qarTul sportSi.

bolo wlebSi erTgvar modad iqca

ucxoeli mwvrTnelebis mowveva, TviT

nakreb gundebSic. gasakviri TiTqos ara-

feria, radgan msoflio praqtikaSia le-

gionerebis yola gundebSi. mTavaria, ma-

Ti kvalifikacia. Tumca swored maT

profesionalizmSia problema. saubedu-

rod, qarTveli specialistebisadmi un-

doblobas kvlav politikur Sexedule-

bebTan, an federaciebis xelmZRvaneleb-

Tan dapirispirebasTan mivyevarT. sxvas

ras unda davabraloT SoTa xabarelis

ganTavisufleba da mis magivrad avstri-

elis mowveva saqarTvelos nakrebSi? Se-

vadaroT am ori specialistebis Sedege-

bi. dabolos, albaT kargi iqneba, Tu is

aTletebi, romlebic zonderbrigadebSi

arian, dafiqrdnen TavianT saqcielze da

sakuTari xalxis siyvaruli sportul

sarbielze moipovon. Torem xelisufle-

ba Seicvleba da maT is Savi laqa, ro-

melsac Tavad icxeben, saSviliSvilod

darCebaT.

gia burduli

iZulebiT dasaqmeba _ucxoelebs samsaxurSi

Rebuloben, qarTvelebisazRvargareT garbian

sporti da politika

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21saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.

mas dRemde zaravs samSo-

biaro saxlis danaxva. gulm-

Svidad verc Cvilebs uyu-

rebs, radgan yvelaze mware

xvedri ergo amqveynad _ Svi-

lis uarmyofeli deda hqvia.

Tumca, simarTle rom iTqvas,

misTvis arc araferi ukiT-

xavT, imis Rirsadac ki ar Ca-

uTvliaT, rom arCevanis uf-

leba miecaT: wyevla-krulviT

ar iRleboda gakapasebuli

deda, pirgamexebuli idga ma-

ma, warbSekruli da amrezili

iyo axalgaTxovili ufrosi

daiko _ ar arsebobda adamia-

ni, romelic dalis TanaugrZ-

nobda; ara, SeiZleba arsebob-

da kidec, magram daxmarebas

ver moaxerxebda _ ver Secv-

lida ganaCens, romelic Seu-

racxyofilma ojaxma Tavis

Svilsa da axladdabadebul

SviliSvils gamoutana, gana-

Ceni ki ulmobeli iyo: dedas

ar hqonda dedobis ufleba,

`ukanono~ bavSvs ki _ si-

cocxlis, magram vinaidan sak-

maod gvian Seityves misi ar-

sebobis Sesaxeb da mainc mo-

evlina qveyanas, dabadebisTa-

nave unda moekveTaT.

mokveTes kidec _ uSvilo

wyvilebs ra gamolevs da ax-

lac gamoCnda keTili xalxi,

romelmac biWuna iSvila.

im dRidan damTavrda da-

lisTvis sicocxle da daiwyo

arseboba. roca mkerdSi mowo-

lilma rZem Seawuxa da tki-

vili igrZno, mixvda, rogor

unda epovna gamosavali: tki-

vils ki ar unda gaqceoda,

aramed piriqiT, unda eZebna;

fizikur tanjvas misi sxeuli

unda ewamebina, moralurs ki

_ suli, iqneb ase mainc dae-

saja sakuTari Tavi. TviTmkv-

leloba? sasowarkveTilma

amazec ifiqra, magram, Turme.

sikvdili zedmeti fufuneba

iyo misTvis. erTxel, roca

xmamaRla wamoscda, _ meti

aRar SemiZlia, Tavs moviklav

da davisvenebo, _ dedam gve-

liviT Causisina, _ jer vali

gadaixade da mere rogorc

genebos, ise moiqecio. _ ra

valze laparakob? _ gaognda

dali _ vali, romelic oja-

xisa gmarTebs. Cven araferi

dagviklia SenTvis. mTelma

sofelma icis, rom patiosani

mSoblebis patiosani Svili

xar. ho, xalxis TvalSi pati-

osani xar, yvelanairad veca-

deT, aravis gaego Seni unamu-

sobis ambavi da Tavi ar mog-

vWroda. RmerTma xom icis,

amas ramdeni Zalisxmeva das-

Wirda, TiTqmis mTeli wliT

gadavixveweT aqedan, mucelga-

berili rom aravis daenaxe.

meti ra gveqna? ki, Svilis ma-

givrad gvelis wiwili gag-

zardeT, magram xalxis Tval-

Si jer isev wesieri qali

xar; hoda, Seifere: gaTxovdi,

ojaxi Seqmeni, qmar-Svils em-

saxure! sikvdilis ufleba

rom ara gaqvs, ar ici? Sen ki

daisveneb, magram Cven ra

wyalSi gadavvardeT? sofels

pirs ver aukrav, aTas rames

ityvian da ise gagvaSaveben,

mtkvaric ver gagvrecxavs.

ase da amgvarad, dali, ro-

melsac jer sikvdilis ufle-

ba ar hqonda, valis gadaxdas

Seudga: upirveles yovlisa,

aguzguzebul buxarSi SeuZa-

xa im kacis fotoebi, rome-

lic siyvaruls eficeboda da

mere fexmZime miatova, dawva

dRiuri _ 17 wlis gulubry-

vilo gogos gulis mesaidum-

le, arnaxuli nebisyofa gamo-

iCina da studentic gaxda...

Tbiliss dalis warsu-

lisTvis ar ecala; arc ara-

feri ukvirda da arc arafe-

ri edardeboda. arc axladga-

momcxvar students hqonda

imis xalisi, rom Tbiliselo-

ba Seergo, megobrebi SeeZina

da galaRebuliyo _ naTesave-

bis mkacri zedamxedvelobis

qveS cxovrobda, TavauReblad

mecadineobda da verc ki amC-

nevda, rogor garboda dro.

TvalisdaxamxamebaSi CaTav-

da studentoba _ `vali~ na-

wilobriv gadaxdili iyo,

erT mSvenier dRes ki mTlia-

nad gadaxdis Jamic dadga _

axla ojaxis mZime uReli un-

da daedga da erTgulad eta-

rebina. mSoblebis mier gamo-

Zebnil saqmros cudi namdvi-

lad ar eTqmoda, Tumca dali

arc cdila mis kargad gacno-

bas, xmac ar amouRia, ise Se-

egua beds _ arc axla hqonda

arCevanis ufle-

ba...

axalgazrdebi

TbilisSi dasaxl-

dnen da dali Cve-

ulebriv diasax-

lisad, meuRled

iqca, yoveldRiu-

ri sazrunaviT

datvirTuls, Ti-

Tqos, arc arafe-

ri uxaroda da

arc araferi sw-

yinda. qmars Tavi-

dan, cota ar

iyos, ukvirda mi-

si indeferentu-

loba, mere ki Se-

eCvia, moswonda

kidec colis upretenzio xa-

siaTi.

qaliSvilis SeZenam gamoa-

cocxla qali, TvalebSi sxi-

vi Caudga da fanatikos de-

dad iqca. xom daamtkica, rom

samagaliTo meuRle da dia-

saxlisi iyo, axla isic unda

daemtkicebina, rom samagali-

To dedoba SeeZlo _ SeZlo

kidec: eka ise izrdeboda, da-

lisagan damaluli araferi

hqonia. sanukvari

ocneba _ Svils

marto mSobeli ki

ara, ufrosi mego-

bari daenaxa masSi

_ asrulebuli iyo.

swored ase warmo-

edgina dedaSvilo-

ba da is, rac odes-

Rac Tavad mas ar

eRirsa, axla rea-

lobad iqca.

erT mSvenier

dRes didis ambiT

miaxara ekam, _

xval, Cems dabade-

bis dReze, `isic~

iqnebao. RamiT mo-

usvenrad eZina da-

lis, erTi suli

hqonda, Tavisi 16 wlis gogo-

nas rCeuli gaecno. saRamos,

roca stumrebi Seikribnen da

eka maRal, Savgvreman biWs Se-

mouZRva, qals ferma gadahk-

ra. _ gaicani, es goCaa, _

uTxra Svilma. biWs Tvalebi

ucinoda. imdenad axlobeli

iyo es iribad gaWrili Wre-

li Tvalebi, rom dalis Tav-

bru daexva. _ sasiamovnoa,

mobrZandiT. _ Caibutbuta

nirwamxdarma, goCas xeli Ca-

moarTva, mirTmeuli Taiguli

gulze miixuta da qmars ise

gadaxeda, TiTqos misgan elo-

da Svelas. stumrebi gvian

daiSalnen. daretianebuli

alagebda sufras da Tvalwin

goCa edga _ maRali, moxdeni-

li, mocinari TvalebiT. mtan-

jvel molodinSi gairbina

ramdenime dRem; grZnobda,

rom fexqveS miwa ecleboda

da realobis SegrZnebas hkar-

gavda. veravis gaando Tavisi

gasaWiri, mxolod is moaxer-

xa, rom Svils yvelaferi

dawvrilebiT gamohkiTxa bi-

Wis Sesaxeb. ekas monayolma

uaresad aaforiaqa: goCa eqvsi

wliT ufrosi iyo mis Svil-

ze, instituti ukve daemTav-

rebina, arcTu axalgazrda

mSoblebi hyavda. _ da-Zma

hyavs? _ xavss eWideboda da-

li. _ ara, dediserTaa, gvian

SeeZinaT da mSoblebi zed

hyvebian, _ miiRo pasuxi. mTa-

vari ki win iyo: ekas da go-

Cas daqorwineba surdaT. _ ai,

Cavabareb wels universitet-

Si da maSinve xels movawerT.

de, rom icode, rogor miy-

vars; naxav, Tqvenc aucileb-

lad SegiyvardebaT... _ WikWi-

kebda saxegabrwyinebuli go-

go. aq ki qals moTminebis Za-

fi gauwyda da sabolood um-

tyuna nervebma. _ Sen amas ar

izam, arasodes gaxdebi misi

coli! _ daukivla Svils da

Tavis oTaxSi Seketva daapi-

ra, magram ekam ar misca amis

saSualeba, fexdafex mihyva

da axsna-ganmarteba mosTxova.

ra unda aexsna ubedur

qals? rogor unda moeyola

Zveli istoria, romlis

dawyebasac amaod cdilobda

amdeni xani?

albaT, zedmetia imis gad-

mocema, ra scenebi imarTeboda

ojaxSi: erTi mxriv, eka, ro-

melsac ver aexsna dedis mo-

ulodneli gajiqebis mizezi,

meore mxriv ki sasowarkveTi-

li, gansjis unardakarguli

qali, romelmac aRar icoda,

SvilisTvis rogor aeridebina

amxela codva _ sakuTar Zma-

ze daqorwineba. dalis saqci-

eli qmarsac ukvirda, arafe-

ri hqonda goCas sawinaaRmde-

go, mis mSoblebsac icnobda

Soridan da pativsacem xal-

xad miaCnda, ver gaego, ra ar

moswonda dalis...

msgavsi tragediebis xil-

vas teleserialebSi miveCvi-

eT, Torem cxovrebaSi RmerT-

ma yvela dagvifaros amisagan!

aq verc `gadarTav~ da verc

`gamorTav~, erTaderTi arxia

da arc `stopkadri~ arsebobs

_ sicrueze agebuli cxovre-

ba ingreva da nangrevebis qveS

hyvebi, fasadis Selamazeba

aRarafers Svelis... dalim,

sxva gamosavali rom ver mo-

naxa, goCas mSoblebs miakiTxa

_ midioda da fexebi ukan

rCeboda; icoda, aRsareba un-

da eTqva _ sxvagvarad ver ax-

snida Tavis uars. sabednie-

rod, goCa Sin ar daxvda. za-

ri dareka. kari gauRes. da-

lim scada Tavis xelSi ayva-

na, magram es mis Zalebs aRe-

mateboda da rogorc ki mas-

pinZlebis saTno saxeebs Sexe-

da, Segubebulma cremlebma

gza ipoves... gaognebuli

col-qmari didxans awynareb-

da isterikaSi Cavardnil

qals, mere ki misi akankale-

buli xmiT monaTxrobi ambavi

moismines... axla ukve sami sa-

sowarkveTili adamiani ijda

sastumro oTaxSi. axalgazr-

debisTvis simarTlis Tqma

iyo saWiro, ra reaqcia eqne-

bodaT maT? Tanac, goCam ar

icoda, rom naSvilebi iyo,

rogor Sexvdeboda am ambavs?

viTom iolia, dakargo Seyva-

rebuli da imavdroulad ga-

acnobiero, rom biologiuri

mSoblebi sxva gyavs, gamzrde-

li ki _ sxva?

amboben, gamouvali mdgoma-

reoba ar arsebobso. ar vici,

SeiZleba asec iyos; gaaCnia,

vin ras miiCnevs gamosavlad

da radganac amdeni azria,

ramdeni adamianicaa, Tqveni ne-

barTviT, am istorias ar da-

vasruleb. albaT, TiToeuli

Tqvengani sakuTari bunebidan

gamomdinare warmoidgens fi-

nals. me ki, Cemda Tavad, vi-

survebdi, rom arasodes aR-

movCeniliyaviT msgavs situa-

ciaSi da warsulis nangreveb-

Si ar CavmarxuliyaviT. sam-

wuxarod, bevri qali izia-

rebs dalis beds _ nuravis

ganvsjiT! ubralod, gvaxsov-

des, rom gugulis bude mudam

carielia da misi bartyebi

mudam sxvis budeSi iCekebian.

gugulisTvis es Cveulebrivi

movlenaa, adamianisTvis ki...

iqneb, sanam umweo Cvilebs

`kanonierad~ da `ukanonod~

davyofdeT, imazedac davfiq-

rebuliyaviT, gvaqvs ki adami-

anebis ase daxarisxebis uf-

leba?

nino sixaruliZe

gugulis bude mudam carielia...

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gardatexis asakSi organizm-

Si mimdinare rTuli anatomiur-

funqciuri cvlilebebi adekva-

turad mozardis fsiqoemociur

sferozec isaxeba. am asakSi isi-

ni yvelaze mwvaved ganicdian

imas, rom sakuTari miswrafebe-

bi harmoniulad ver erwymis re-

alobas. dauZleveli winaaRmde-

gobani maTSi gardatexis asakis

nevrozis winapirobas qmnis.

fsiqoemociuri Zvrebi gansakuT-

rebuli simwvaviT mimdinareobs

dediserTa bavSvebSi _ maTTvis

lamis tragediis tolfasia

imis aRmoCena, rom ojaxSi er-

TaderTni da ganumeorebelni,

megobarTa Soris aseTive ad-

gils ver imkvidreben.

damaxasiaTebeli niSnebi

yvelaze xSirad es zogadi

sisuste, anu asTeniuri sindro-

mia, romelic gonebrivi da fi-

zikuri Sromisas momatebul

daRlilobaSi, fizikuri da

fsiqikuri diskomfortis mud-

miv SegrZnebaSi gamoixateba.

asTeniuri sindromi

mozardebs, yovelgvari mize-

zis gareSe, guneba xSirad da

swrafad ecvlebaT, mtirala gu-

neba-ganwyobileba ueflebaT, uq-

veiTdebaT Sromis unari da yu-

radRebis koncentracia. zogni

mexsierebis daqveiTebasac uCivi-

an. Sesabamisad, klebulobs sko-

laSi akademiuri moswrebis do-

ne, rac TviTdamkvidrebis mo-

surne mozards kidev ufro ur-

Tulebs mdgomareobas _ masSi

badebs pesimizmis, arasrulfa-

sovnebis SegrZnebas, urTulebs

TanatolebTan da axloblebTan

urTierTobebs.

Tavis tkivili

bevri mozardi uCivis Tavis

tkivils, romelic mudmiv xasi-

aTs atarebs da garemo faqto-

rebzea damokidebuli. igi gans-

xvavebuli lokalizaciisaa:

Subli, warbi, kefa, mTeli Tavi.

tkivili, xasiaTis mixedviT,

aris wneviTi, mopulsire da

mqaCavi.

momatebuli mgrZnobeloba

garemo gamRizianeblebis mimarT

mozardebi Znelad itanen

xmaurs, skolis zari usiamovno

SegrZnebebs iwvevs, zedmet

mgrZnobelobas amJRavneben si-

naTlis, sunis, Sexebisadmi. am

faqtorTa gavleniT aramarto

Tavis tkivili uZlierdebaT,

aramed ofliandebian da sisxl-

ZarRvovani reaqciebi uviTarde-

baT.

Zilis darRveva

Zilis dro mokldeba da igi

mSfoTvare xdeba. erTni swra-

fad iZineben, magram maleve iR-

viZeben da uZiloba awuxebT, me-

oreni ki, piriqiT, Znelad iZi-

neben da gamouZineblebi dgebian.

dRis pirvel naxevarSi moTen-

Tilebi arian da mxolod meore

naxevarSi axerxeben mobilize-

bas. bevri maTgani ZilSi lapa-

rakobs, Tumca gamoRviZebis Sem-

deg ar axsovT, raze saubrobd-

nen.

xSiria ZilSi siaruli, zo-

gi maTgani dgeba, magidaze niv-

Tebs alagebs, CanTaSi awyobs,

rTul moZraobebs asrulebs,

zogierTs aReniSneba RamiT Sar-

dis Seukavebloba, rac gansa-

kuTrebiT amZimebs isedac arc-

Tu saxarbieli mdgomareobas.

gulssixlZarRovani

moSlilobani

gardatexis asakSi xSiria

gulis areSi tkivili, arcTu

iSviaTad, aRmocenebuli tkivi-

li marTlac emTxveva funqciur

cvlilebebs gulis areSi _ say-

mawvlo ariTmias, xSirdeba ma-

jiscema, gulSi imatebs funqci-

uri xmauri, arteriuli wneva

xSirad icvleba, yovelive iw-

vevs gangaSis SegrZnebas da

qmnis imis niadags, rom mozards

sikvdilis an sxva saxis fobia

uCndeba. am dros mSoblebi gan-

sakuTrebiT frTxilad unda iy-

vnen da mozardis TandaswrebiT

kategoriulad ar isaubron gu-

lis daavadebebze da am mizeziT

gamowveul sikvdilze.

cvlilebebi saWmlis

momnelebel sistemaSi

xSiria saWmlis momnelebe-

li traqtis sekretoruli da

motoruli funqciis darRveve-

bi, rac vlindeba muclis areSi

tkiviliT, madis daqveiTebiT,

defekaciis darRveviT. Tavs

iCens gardatexis asakis anoreq-

sia, romelic gansakuTrebiT

xSiria gogonebSi _ isini Tavs

msuqan da arasrulfasovan ada-

mianebad miiCneven da TiTqmis

uars amboben sakvebze. garkveu-

li periodis Semdeg Wama saer-

Tod aRar SeuZliaT, miuxedavad

imisa, rom ukve Wamis survili

aqvs _ aseTebs specialuri

mkurnaloba esaWiroebaT.

xelsayreli garemos SeqmniT

mozardebi sxvebis Caurevlad-

Tavs aRweven nevrozul mdgoma-

reobas, Tumca gardatexis asa-

kis dasrulebis Semdeg (18-20

weli), Tu igive cvlilebebi

narCundeba, aucilebelia kvali-

ficiuri samedicino Careva.

isteria da

akviatebuli azrebi

zogjer, yuradRebis miqce-

vis mizniT, mozardebSi xSiria

isteriuli Setevebi: yvirian

ganrisxebulni, ixeven tanze

tansacmels, iglejen Tmas, amt-

vreven WurWels, ikbenen xelebs,

ifurTxebian, Tavs esxmian sru-

liad udanaSauloT. Setevis

xangrZlivoba damokidebulia ma-

yurebelTa raodenobasa da maT

reaqciaze, rac meti mayurebe-

lia da TanagrZnobas grZnobs

maTi mxridan, miT xangrZlivia

Seteva, romlis Semdegac aRar

iZineben, iwyeben Civilsa da

moTqma-godebas.

Setevisas zogierTi ganmeo-

rebiT moZraobebs ritmulad as-

rulebs, isteriuli mozarde-

bisTvis damaxasiaTebelia damb-

la, kontraqturebi; magaliTad,

maT SeuZliaT sawolSi fexebis

moZraoba, magram ver dgebian da

verc dadian. uCndebaT vegetati-

uri moSlilobani _ bronqos-

pazmi, romlis drosac ar SeuZ-

liaT saubari, ylapva, aqvT

krunCxviTi xvela, Rebineba, hae-

ris ukmarisoba, asTmuri Sete-

vebi, sxeulis temperaturis ma-

teba da sxva.

irRveva metyveleba _ xSi-

ria enis gamudmebuli borZiki,

romelic gansxvavdeba sxva for-

mebisgan, isteriuli mutizmi _

metyvelebis sruli uqonloba

an nawilobrivi, mozardi munj-

deba an SerCeviTad saubrobs.

xSiria akviatebuli azrebiT

gamowveuli problemebic, rode-

sac mozardi aikviatebs ararea-

lur da ausrulebel survils

da misi Seusrulebloba masSi

ukve did fsiqoemociur gancda

iwvevs.

gardatexis asakis nevrozi

xSirad araswori aRzrdis Se-

degia, misi mastimuleblebi

zogjer Tavad mozrdilebi ari-

an _ mSoblebi, maswavleblebi,

ojaxis sxva wevrebi, romlebic

uyrueben mozardis Tavisebure-

bebs da maT angariSs ar uweven.

Seqmnil viTarebaSi erTaderTi

gamosavali swored am asakis

fsiqo-fiziologiur Tavisebu-

rebaTa codna da maTi gaTvalis-

winebaa.

sakurorto romanebis Semd-

gom urogenitaluri qlamidio-

ziT moavade adamianTa ricxvi

erTiaTad matulobs, igi xom

sqesobrivi gziT gadamdebi erT-

erTi yvelaze gavrcelebuli

daavadebaa. mas mikroorganizmi

qlamidia iwvevs da ZiriTadad

axalgazrdebSi gvxvdeba. dRes

qlamidioziT sqesobriv urTi-

erTobaSi myof adamianTa 5-10

procentia daavadebuli.

dainficireba xdeba rogorc

Cveulebrivi, ise gaukuRmarTe-

buli (analuri, oraluri) sqe-

sobrivi urTierTobisas. erTje-

radi kontaqtisas dainficire-

bis xarisxi 50 procents Sead-

gens.

dasnebovneba sayofacxovrebo

gziT naklebrealuria _ qlami-

diebi organizmis gareSe swra-

fad iRupebian, inficirebisTvis

mikrobebis sakmao raodenobis

sayofacxovrebo gziT moxvedra

ver xdeba, ase rom, dainficire-

ba sapirfareSoSi, sacurao

auzebSi, abanoebSi, saerTo Wur-

WliTa da pirsaxocis gamoyene-

biT ar xdeba.

daavadebis inkubaciuri pe-

riodi 1-idan 3 kviramdea, misT-

vis damaxasiaTebeli niSnebi in-

ficirebidan swored am perio-

dis gavlis Semdgom iCens Tavs..

rogor gamovicnoT daavadeba

daavadeba sakmaod xSirad

mimdinareobs usimptomod an mi-

nimaluri gamovlinebebiT. igi

absoluturad farulad mimdi-

nareobs mamakacTa 46, xolo

qalTa 67 procentSi.

qalebs daavadebisas

aReniSnebaT:

_ gamonadeni saSodan lor-

wovani an lorwovan-Cirqovani,

usiamovno suniT da moyviTalo

feriT.

_ Sardvisas arcTu Zlieri

tkivilebi gareTa da SigniTa

sasqeso organoebSi, qavili da

wva.

_ muclis qveda areSi tki-

vili.

_ TeTradSlis gaZliereba

menstruaciis win, mcire sisxl-

denebi.

_ zogadi sisuste da tempe-

raturis mateba, rac intoqsika-

ciis niSnebia.

mamakacebs

axasiaTebT:

_ dasawyisSi vlin-

deba, rogorc saSarde

gzebis gaxangrZlivebu-

li msubuqi anTeba _

ureTriti, romelic

ramdenime Tve grZel-

deba.

_ lorwovani an

lorwovn-Cirqovani ga-

monadeni.

_ Sardvisas qavili

da wva.

_ arcTu Zlieri

tkivili welis mida-

moebSi, Sardsadensa da

saTesleSi.

_ SesaZlebelia

temperaturis mateba

37 gradusamde.

_ zogadi sisuste da Sar-

dis amRvreva, maTSi Cirqovani

Zafebis arseboba, zogjer sisx-

liani gamonadeni Sardvis an

eakulaciis Semdeg.

qlamidiozs axasiaTebs e.w.

xangrZlivi mtarebloba, imunu-

ri sistema Trgunavs maT da or-

ganizmSi qlamidiebis arsebobaze

araferi miuTiTebs, radgan kli-

nikuri, instrumentuli da la-

boratoriuli kvlevebisas da-

sawyisSi dazianebis niSnebi ar

vlindeba, mxolod specifikuri

kvlevebiTaa SesaZlebeli qlami-

diebis aRmoCena.

is SeiZleba garTuldes

mamakacebSi daavadeba SesaZ-

loa garTuldes saTesle dana-

matis anTebiT _ epididimitiT,

qalebSi yvelaze xSiri garTu-

lebaa saSvilosnos da misi da-

namatebis anTeba, romelic Sem-

deg uSvilobis mTavari mizezi

xdeba. izrdeba saSvilosnosgare

orsulobebis riski. damaxasia-

Tebeli garTulebaa reiteris

sindromi, romelic vlindeba

Sardsadeni arxis (qalebSi saS-

vilosnos yelis), Tvalebisa da

saxsrebis anTebiT. zogierTi

specialisti qlamidiozs pros-

tatitis mizezadac miiCnevs.

uSvilobas, rogorc qaleb-

Si, ise mamakacebSi, gansazRv-

ravs daavadebis xangrZlivoba

da TandarTuli sxva infeqciebi

_ qlamidiebi organizms, Cveu-

lebriv, sxva mikrobebTan erTad

azianebs.

qlamidiozi da orsuloba

orsulobisas qlamidiozi

iwvevs nayofis ganuviTareblo-

bas, naadrev mSobiarobas, norma-

ze dabali wonis nayofis daba-

debas, Warbwylianobas, placen-

tisa da misi garsis dazianebas,

mSobiarobisas cxelebas.

bavSvis dainficireba daava-

debuli dedisgan SesaZlebelia

rogorc saSvilosnoSi, ise

mSobiarobis dros (40 procen-

ti). bavSvi ibadeba Tandayoli-

li qlamidioziT, mas SesaZloa

aRmoaCndes:

_ ofTalmoqlamidioziT,

koniunqtiviti _ 18-20 procen-

ti.

_ axalSobilTa qlamidiuri

pnevmonia, filtvebis anTeba _

20-25 procenti.

_ generalizebuli qlamidi-

ozi _ filtvebis, gulis, RviZ-

lisa da kuW-nawlavis traqtis

dazianeba.

_ centraluri nervuli

sistemis dazianeba _ encefalo-

paTiebi, krunCxva, sunTqvis dar-

Rveva.

_ sasqeso organoebisa da

Sarsadenis arxis, cxvir-xaxis

anTebiTi dazianeba.

daicaviT Tavi

rogorc aRvniSneT, daavade-

bis drouli diagnostika sakma-

od rTulia; amasTan, qlamidiebs

advilad SeuZliaT `damalva~,

amitom misgan Tavis dasacavi sa-

ukeTeso gzaa erTi da mudmivi

sqesobrivi partnioris yola,

SemTxveviTi kontaqtebisas ba-

rieruli kontracefciis _ pre-

zervativis gamoyeneba.

mkurnaloba orive partni-

ors erTdroulad utardeba. am

periodSi akrZalulia daucve-

li sqesobrivi kontaqti. gamo-

janmrTelebis Semdeg, mkurna-

lobis xarisxis dasadgenad,

momdevno ramdenime Tvis ganmav-

lobaSi saWiroa sakontroli

imunologiuri sinjebis Catare-

ba.

sakurorto sezonis Semdgomi daavadeba

ratom Wirveulobs mozardi

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mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTTqarTul opozicias aRar aqvs fu-

li saarCevno kampaniisTvis, sajaro

Sexvedrebis organizebisTvis, plaka-

tebis dasabeWdad da soflidan so-

felSi sasiarulod, wers Le Monde.daxmarebis mowodeba sakmaod ucnau-

ria, radgan opoziciis lideri ar

gakotrebula. biZina ivaniSvilis qo-

nebas Forbes 5 miliard evrod afa-

sebs, rac saqarTvelos wliur biu-

jets aWarbebs, vkiTxulobT gamoce-

maSi. TumcaRa politikuri saqmiano-

bisTvis uzarmazari Tanxebis xarjva,

rogorc Cans, ivaniSvilisTvis SeuZ-

lebeli aRmoCnda.

ukanaskneli epizodi finansuri

omisa, romelsac prezidenti saakaS-

vili Tavisi yvelaze seriozuli me-

toqis winaaRmdeg eweva, 17 agvisto-

Tia daTariRebuli. samTavrobo sam-

saxurebma daiwyes im partiebis sa-

banko angariSebis dacarieleba, rom-

lebic biZina ivaniSvilis koalicia

`qarTul ocnebaSi~ Sedian.

ivnisidan moyolebuli, opozici-

is or ZiriTad liders _ biZina iva-

niSvilsa da kaxi kalaZes aTobiT mi-

lion evros jarimas akisreben _ xe-

lisuflebis azriT, maT daarRvies

kanoni arCevnebis Sesaxeb, aRniSnavs

Jurnalisti benua vitkini. ori li-

derisTvis wayenebuli jarimis saer-

To moculoba 100 milion evromdea.

opozicia am Tanxis srulad gadax-

daze uars acxadebs. igi ilaSqrebs

`sabWouri meTodebis~ winaaRmdeg da

imuqreba, rom 1-l oqtombers dageg-

mili arCevnebis Sedegebs ar aRia-

rebs. ivlisis dasawyisSi evrokav-

Sirma am faqtis gamo SeSfoTeba ga-

moTqva _ xelisufleba kanons cal-

mxrivad iyenebs da Tavgadakluli

cdilobs, xeli SeuSalos ivaniSvi-

lis saarCevno procesSi monawileo-

bas.

amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi ar-

CevnebisTvis Tvalyuris midevnebas

apirebs. Semodgomaze saqarTvelo Ca-

atarebs tests, Tu ramdenad momwi-

febulia misi politikuri sistema.

`SeZlebs ki qarTuli demokratia da

qarTuli opozicia 9 wlis win,

`vardebis revoluciiT~ mosuli saa-

kaSvilis xelisuflebis mSvidobiani

gziT Secvlas?~ _ kiTxulobs Jur-

nalisti. saakaSvilis momavalic ga-

urkvevelia da Sesabamisad, dasmul

kiTxvaze pasuxis gacemac ar aris

ioli. prezidents ar aqvs ufleba,

2013 wlis saprezidento arCevnebze

mesamed waradginos sakuTari kandi-

datura, politikuri scenidan misi

wasvla ki naklebsavaraudoa.

aqamde xelisuflebas susti da

danawevrebuli opozocia hyavda.

2011 wels biZina ivaniSvilis gamo-

Cenam viTareba Zirfesvianad Secvala.

biznesmeni, romelmac Tavisi qoneba

1990-ian wlebSi ruseTSi daagrova,

qarTuli politikuri cis kabadonze

meteoriviT gamoCnda. politikur

avanscenaze gamosvlamde, misi saxeli

didi masStabis saqvelmoqmedo pro-

eqtebs ukavSirdeboda. axla poli-

tikuri gegmebiT gamoCnda da misi

strategiaa soflis meurneobis gan-

viTareba, umuSevrobasTan brZola da

xalxis keTildReobis gaumjobeseba.

xelisufleba iZulebuli gaxda mis-

Tvis miebaZa da Sua zafxulSi soci-

aluri programebis masStaburi geg-

mebi dasaxa. `mdgomareoba sul ufro

da ufro iZabeba~, _ aRniSnavs avto-

ri.

Le Monde

1-li oqtombris saparlamento arCevnebSi

ZiriTadi konkurentebi arian opoziciuri blo-

ki `qarTuli ocneba~ da mmarTveli partia `er-

Tiani nacionaluri moZraoba. erTic da meorec

qveynis teritoriaze mcxovrebi nacionaluri

umciresobebis mimxrobas cdilobs, acxadebs

somxeTis saagentosTvis micemul interviuSi

saqarTvelos diplomatiuri akademiis reqto-

ri, politologi soso cincaZe.

nacionaluri umciresobebi realuri Zalaa

da bunebrivia, erTmaneTis konkurenti TiToeu-

li politikuri Zala maT Soris sakuTar

eleqtorats eZebs. swored amiT unda aixsnas

politikuri koalicia `qarTuli ocnebisa~ da

somxuri organizacia `javaxkis~ TanamSromlo-

ba _ `qarTulma ocnebam~ swored aqedan warad-

gina deputatobis maJoritari kandidati. am na-

bijs koaliciis lideris eqstravagantur nabi-

jad afaseben.

ZiriTad mosaxleobasac da nacionalur um-

ciresobebsac erTi da igive socialuri prob-

lemebi awuxebT. amitomac politikuri Zalebi

TavianT winasaarCevno programebSi swored am

socialuri problemebis mogvarebis Zalzed

momxiblav gadawyvetilebebs sTavazoben amomr-

Cevlebs.

momavali saparlamento arCevnebi pirvelia

istoriaSi, roca mmarTvel partias konkuren-

tunariani Zala upirispirdeba. qveyanaSi krizi-

sia da politikuri Zalebi yovel Rones xma-

roben Zalauflebis xelSi Casag-

debad. ase rom, saqarTvelos par-

lamentis arCevnebi iqneba mosamza-

debeli kursebi saimisod, rom

qveyana demokratiis gzas daages.

informacia: axalqalaqis saar-

Cevno olqSi koalicia `qarTulma

ocnebam~ maJoritar kandidatad

daasaxela somxuri organizacia

`javaxkis~ Tavmjdomare norik ka-

rapetiani. kandidatTa wardgenis

Semdeg koaliciis liderma biZina

ivaniSvilma ganacxada: norik kara-

petiani kargad icnobs somxuri diasporis

moTxovnebs. man Searbila Tavisi Sexedulebebi

da saxelmwifo azrovnebiT Caanacvla.

unda iTqvas isic, rom saxelisuflebo me-

diasaSualebebma wamoiwyes kampania opoziciis

kandidat karapetianze, romelsac `separatis-

tuli organizaciis meTauri~ uwodes. unda vi-

varaudoT movlenebis aseTi ganviTareba: roca

qarTuli opozicia mxars uWers im organiza-

cias, romelic somxuri mosaxleobis uflebe-

bis gazrdas iTxovs, es TavisTavad imas niS-

navs, rom somxebiT dasaxlebuli regionSi

eleqtorati naklebad dauWers mxars mixeil

saakaSvilis `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~.

yerkramas.orgNEWS.am

qarTuli opoziciistelearxs

evropaSi uyurebenqarTuli tele-

arxi TV9 ukve

xelmisawvdomia ev-

ropuli auditori-

isTvis, maT Soris

evropuli ruseTis-

Tvis. TV9-is mflo-

belia ekaterine

xvedeliZe, meuRle

biZina ivaniSvilisa,

romlis mier Camoyalibebuli politikuri koalicia

saqarTvelos axlandeli xelisuflebis mTavari kon-

kurentia Semodgomaze dagegmil saparlamento ar-

CevnebSi.

TV9 meore qarTuli telearxia, romelic tra-

diciuli qarTuli mauwyeblobis _ Turquli Tanam-

gzavris Türksat 2A/3A 42 ãð. E gareT aris ganTavse-buli. 2011 wlis ianvridan Hotbird 13 ãð. E-idan ma-uwyebloba daiwyo saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso te-

learxma rusul enaze (`pirveli sainformacio kav-

kasiuri _ ÏÈÊ~), romelic `saqarTvelos sazoga-

doebrivma mauwyebelma~ ucxoeli auditoriisTvis

Seqmna.

TV9, iseve rogorc ÏÈÊ, obieqturi Jurnalis-

tikis deklarirebas axdens, magram igi gaTvlilia

ara gare, aramed Sida auditoriisTvis _ TV9 qar-

Tul enaze mauwyeblobs.

garda sakabelo arxebisa, es telearxi

regionebisTvisac xelmiswvdomia. garda Hotbird 13ãð. E-isa, am arxis yureba SesaZlebelia qarTuli

Tanamgzavruli platformidan Black Sea Sat íà Türksat2A/3A 42 ãð. E.

rosinvest.com

xelisufleba qarTulopozicias aviwroebs

saqarTveloSi pirvelad imarTebaarCevnebi, sadac xelisuflebas

konkurentunariani opozicia hyavs

mimoxilva moamzada

g. WavWavaZem.

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wesiTa da rigiT, samsaris kl-

deSi nakveTi kompleqsi aqamdec

unda gvenaxa, magram verana samsa-

ris gamo gza gavimrudeT da so-

fel did samsarSi aRmoCndiT. er-

Tma somxurma ojaxma Sesveneba da

papanaqeba sicxeSi sulismoTqma Se-

mogvTavaza. maspinZlebi _ artiomi

da Jana cibrutiviT trialeben,

sufraze cxvris xorci, mRili,

Rvezeli, yveli da araJani gamo-

aqvT... mere Tafli, koniaki da ya-

va. artiomi cdilobs, ramdenime

qarTuli sityva Seakowiwos da

gvasiamovnos. wuxs artiomi _ bav-

Svebs skolaSi ucxo enas aswavli-

an, qarTuls ki arao... mis naTqvam-

ze javaxeTis kidev erT sofelSi

_ moliTSi gacnobili somxuri

ojaxi maxsendeba, romelmac aseve

gulTbilad gvimaspinZla. arasd-

ros damaviwydeba erevnidan dabru-

nebuli is qaliSvili, romelmac

gogebaSvilis `dedaena~ gviCvena

wignebis Taroze da gviTxra: aseTi

mSvenieri damwerloba dedamiwis

zurgze arsad meguleba da Tavs

movaled vTvli qarTuli viswav-

loo. javaxeTSi mogzaurobisas

sakmaod bevri keTilSobili some-

xi gavicani. arian, ra Tqma unda

iseTebic, romlebic jibrSi udga-

nan qarTvelebs da sofels wamla-

ven separatistuli baciliT, mag-

ram kargsa da cuds sad, romel

erSi ar naxav.

...patara samsarisken gavbrun-

diT da Sua gzaze marjvniv, samsa-

riswylis meore napirze, gadave-

diT. mze karga xania dasavleTiT

gadaixara da Crdilebi dagrZelda.

xasxasa balaxs niavma gadauqrola

da kelaptrebiviT amowverili yvi-

Teli yvavilebi aacekva. erT monak-

veTSi samsariswyals klde esazRv-

reba, romlis centrSi ramdenime

gamoqvabulia. iqve mcire kldeka-

ria gaWrili.

movediT!... swored es aris sam-

saris kldeSi nakveTi namonastra-

li.

qvab-ssenakebi sam sarTuladaa

kldeSi nakveTi. zustad am sami

sarTulis simaRle aqvs kompleq-

sis aRmosavleT nawilSi arsebul

jvar-ggumbaTovan eklesias. gumba-

Tis yeli tradiciulad sakur-

Txevlis absidis mxrebs da or

Tavisufal svets eyrdnoba. dar-

bazSi kidev erTi wyvili svetia,

romelic dasavleTis, samxreTisa

da CrdiloeTis mklavebs mijnavs.

es svetebic, gumbaTic, sakurTxe-

velic da mTavari darbazic

kldis erT monoliTSia gamoWri-

li. garda amisa, mTavar darbazs

samxreTidan mikruli aqvs aseve

kldeSi gamoWrili derefnebi,

romlebic sadiakvnoTi da samkveT-

loTi sruldeba. rogor SeiZleba

ar aRgvafrTovanos da gagvaocos

xuroTmoZRvris ostatobam, rome-

lic qvis monoliTSi kveTda kon-

struqciul formebs da jiutad

ebrZoda kldes.

kldeSi nakveTi samonastro

kompleqsebi erTi didi da calke

Temaa da masze saubars aq ar vapi-

reb, magram mTlad uTqmelobac ar

iqneba. kldeSi nakveTi gumbaTiani

taZari, samsaris garda, vanis qva-

bebSic gvxvdeba (qveda, dangreuli

didi taZari), magram qanebis CamoS-

lis gamo igi Sedarebis saSuale-

bas ar iZleva. miuxedavad amisa

iseTi STabeWdileba rCeba, rom igi

gegmarebiT ramdenadme martivi un-

da yofiliyo samsarTan SedarebiT.

samsaris taZari qarTuli sam-

To xuroTmoZRvrebis erT-erTi

brwyinvale nimuSia. mis Semoqmeds

mTis laRi, gaSlili bunebidan mo-

ulodnelad SevyavarT absolutu-

rad gansxvavebul konkretul da

idumal samyaroSi. igi mistikas

miscemia da gveubneba, rom mSvenie-

ri samyaros fSvinvas safuZvlad

udevs uflis is sityva, romelic

aq, am qvabebSia garindebuli.

kompleqsSi mTavari taZris

garda gvxvdeba sxvadasxva sar-

Tulze kldeSi nakveTi satrapezo,

mcire samlocveloebi, dedaboZiani

darbazi da sxva, romelTagan zo-

gierTi gvirabebiT iyo dakavSire-

buli.

mTavar taZars aqvs ori Zalian

saintereso warwera. umTavresi,

qtitoruli warwera moTavsebulia

Sesasvlelis Tavze, samkuTxa Camo-

texil qvaze. qvis meore nawili

dakargulia. sxvaTa Soris, darCe-

nili qvac myarad aRar zis budeSi

da SesaZloa, isic Camovardes. sa-

naxevrod Semonaxuli warwera no-

dar SoSiaSvils ase aqvs aRdgeni-

li: `q. aSenda wmidai ese vani

RmrTismSoblis samkvidre odes

qarTvelTa mefeman kuropalatma

daviT da erman yovelman ese vani

da krebuli Seguibrala, maSin di-

disa Wirisagan guixsna, da ufalo,

ixsenin igica dResa mas gankiTxvi-

sasa. sulam maSin davwere, odes

agarianTa mcxeTis eklesiai dawu-

es da ninos xeli waritanes~. war-

weridan irkveva, rom X saukuneSi

es monasteri aSenda daviT kuro-

palatis mecadineobiT gaWirvebaSi

myofi im mRvdel-monazvnebisTvis,

romlebic arabTa mier mcxeTidan

wminda ninos aRmarTuli jvris ga-

tacebas moswrebian. advili SesaZ-

lebelia, warweris amomkveTi sula

xuroTmoZRvaric ki iyos.

mTavari taZris zogierTi kon-

struqciuli nawili, metadre ki

nalisebrTan miaxloebuli formis

TaRebi TiTqos adre Suasaukuneeb-

ze migvaniSnebs da imas gvikarna-

xebs, rom sityva `aSeneba~-Si, ro-

gorc xSirad xdeboda xolme, Zir-

fesviani ganaxleba da rekonstruq-

cia ufro igulisxmeba. ras unda

niSnavdes siRrmiseulad fraza _

`maSin didi Wirisagan guixsna~?

imas xom ara, rom cisqveS darCe-

nili berebisTvis uSveliaT da mo-

nasteri aRudgeniaT? Cndeba meore

SekiTxvac: vin da ram daangria mo-

nasteri, ra moxda? mgoni, rom ama-

ze pasuxs iZleva is meore, erTi

SexedviT ucnauri warwera, rome-

lic taZris fasadidanaa Camovard-

nili: `saxeliTa RmrTisaTa da me-

oxebiTa wmidisa RmrTismSobelisa-

iTa ese wmida eklesiai odes aRe-

Sena, maSin es adgili tyisagan ar

Canda~. meore warwera pirvels av-

sebs da misi Taviseburi ganmarte-

bacaa. orive warwera aseTi daskv-

nis gamotanis saSualebas gvaZ-

levs: kldeSi nakveTi monasteri

Tavdapirvelad daburul tyeSi

mdgara, magram Semdeg tyec ganad-

gurebula da monasteric. meore

warweris amomkveTs es ambavi kar-

gad xsomebia. mRvdel-monazvnebi

usaxlkarod da utaZrod darCeni-

lan didi tragediis Semdeg, magram

am gaWirvebidan isini uxsnia daviT

kuropalats, romelsac taZari

aRudgenia, da, albaT, gaufarToe-

bia kidec. es ambavi mas Semdeg mom-

xdara, rac agarianebs (arabebs)

mcxeTidan ninos `xeli~ gautaci-

aT.

Cveni rubrikis erTgul mkiTx-

vels aucileblad emaxsovreba ba-

raleTSi Cawerili legenda iqauri

tyis gadawvisa da oqros jvar-

gumbaTis waRebis Sesaxeb. legen-

dis es siuJeti Zalian hgavs wm.

ninos jvris gatacebis ambavs da

samsaris warweriT dadasturebul

Zveli tyis arsebobas. isini erTma-

neTTan kavSirSi unda iyvnen da er-

Tsa da imave istoriul ambavs

ireklavdnen. es tragedia Zalian

axlosaa 914 wels arabi amiris

abul-kasimis mier qarTlsa da sam-

cxe-javaxeTSi mowyobil damangre-

vel laSqrobasTan. roca abul-ka-

simma Tmogvis mrisxane cixes vera-

feri daaklo, gamwarebulma qva

qvaze ar datova javaxeTSi _ tye-

ebi gadawva da eklesia-monastrebi

daaqcia. Tu aseTi versia misaRebia,

maSin warweraSi naxsenebi mefe-kku-

ropalati daviTi qarTvelTa (tao-

klarjeTis) mefe daviT meorea

(923-9937 w). erTi sityviT, samsa-

ris kldis kompleqsi X saukuneSi

aRdgenili adrindeli monasteria

da gamoTqma `tye-jjavaxeTis~ isto-

riul sabuTsac gvaZlevs.

namonastralis daTvalierebasa

da gadaRebas rom vasrulebT, ga-

reT gamosulebi Casasvlelad gam-

zadebuli mzis xilviT vtkbebiT.

Cvens gverdiT mxne futkari isev

daeZebs TibaTvis yvavilTa tkbil-

surnelebas. gamefebul idumalebas

am oblad darCenili futkris bzu-

ili da samsariwylis Soreuli

Cxriali arRvevs. vuyureb, vusmen

da winaparTa aCrdilebis gamocxa-

debas veli.

... samsars viyav, momenatreT.

gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi

mmooggzzaauurroobbaa ssaammSSoobbllooSSii

tye-javaxeTi

samsars viyav, momenatreT...

samsaris kompleqsis

warweriani qvebi da xedebi

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migraciis maCvenebeli saqarTve-

loSi wlidan wlamde izrdeba. ar

arsebobs zusti maCvenebli imisa,

Tu ramdeni adamiani imyofeba sazR-

vargareT. miT umetes, SeuZlebelia

imis daTvla, ramden adamians surs

sazRvargareT gaxizvna, magram ver

axerxebs gamgzavrebas. 2010 wels

saqarTvelo pirvelad Sevida im

qveynebis aTeulSi, romlis moqala-

qeebic yvelaze xSirad iTxoven

sazRvargareT TavSesafars. aTeul-

Si saqarTvelos garda Sedian: avRa-

neTi, erayi, somali, serbia, nigeria,

irani, pakistani, CineTi da ruseTi.

Aam aTeulSi saqarTvelo bolo ad-

gilze “gavida”, magram samagierod,

pirvel adgilze aRmovCndiT, sazR-

vargareT samudamod wavslis msur-

velTa zrdis tempebiT.

arada, prezidenti TiTq-

mis yoveli gamosvlisas

imiT gvaxarebs, Tu ramde-

niT gaizarda bolo peri-

odSi samSobloSi dabru-

nebul qarTvelTa raode-

noba, Tumca ucnobia, sa-

idan aqvs saakaSvils es

monacemebi.

bolo wlebSi gansa-

kuTrebiT megobrulad

“gvexmareba” TurqeTis

respublika. yvelasTvis

cnobilia, rom yvelaze

martivad iq SeuZliaT

qarTvelebs dasaqmeba.

madlmosxmuli Turqebs,

samagierod, Cvens samSob-

loSi vasaxlebT, biznesis wamowye-

baSi xels vuwyobT, miwebs lamis

vCuqniT, yvela pirobas vuqmniT sa-

imisod, rom Cvens qveyanaSi Cvens

sakuTar mosaxleobaze ufro dacu-

lad da amayad igrZnon Tavi.

ra kategoriis xalxi midis ma-

inc TurqeTSi “qveSefsia” bavSvebis

da invalidi moxucebis mosavle-

lad? – yvelanairi, gaWirvebuli

sofleli, romelsac kapikebad gayi-

duli yurZnis mosavlidan aRebuli

Tanxa wlidan wlamde ar hyofnis,

adamianebi, romlebmac Cvens Sadrav-

nebiT da SeRebili fasadebiT gala-

mazebul qalaqebSi samuSao adgili

vera da ver gamoZebnes, inteligen-

ciis is nawili, romlebic mxolod

imitom gaaTavisufles samsaxurebi-

dan, rom Cvens axalgazrda minist-

rebs biZebad da deidebad Seefere-

bian, da romlebic prezidentma Ca-

recxa da aRar moikiTxa.

Cemi respodenti 55 wlis qal-

batonia, romelsac ar surs saxe-

lisa da gvaris gamxela. qalbaton-

ma konservatoria daamTavra da

wlebis ganmavlobaSi fortepianos

pedagogad muSaobda qalaqis cno-

bil samusiko skolebSi. ama

wlisGgazafxulze qalbatons Ses-

Tavazes TurqeTSi samuSaod wasvla.

Suamavali Turq damsaqmebelsa da

qarTvel qalbatons Soris TurqeT-

Si mcxovrebi qarTveli qali gaxl-

daT:

- qalbatoni meubneboda, rom

damasaqmebda, maZlevda garantiebs.

ambobda, Tu ver dagasaqmeb drou-

lad, me Tavad gipatronebo. Turqi

damsaqmebeli, visTanac qarTvel

qalbatoni didi xania ukve TanamS-

romlobda, iyo vinme erkan arbaCi,

romelsac mersinSi, mezitli star

pet-Si hqonda ofisi, Tumca ofis-

sac ver davarqmevdiT, es iyo sar-

dafi, romelsac arc abra ekida da

arc interieriT hgavda ofiss. Se-

Tanxmebulni viyaviT rom erkans

pirveli xelfasis naxevars mivcem-

di.

- qarTvel Suamavalsac gadau-

xadeT fuli, Tu mas erkani uxdida

Tavisi wilidan?

- me ar gadamixdia qarTveli

SuamavlisaTvis. savaraudod, erkani,

albaT, uxdida, radgan am qalba-

tons bevri hyavda erkanTan miyvani-

li da dasaqmebuli. is sakmaod di-

di xnis ganmavlobaSi TanamSrom-

lobda erkanTan. Tumca Cems wamo-

savlamde cota xniT adre erkanma

da qarTvelma Suamavalma TanamS-

romloba Sewyvites, erkanTan baTu-

midan samuSaod Camovdinen rZal-mu-

li. oriveni daasaqme. ramdenime kvi-

raSi muli wamoiyvana samsaxuridan,

ofisSi moiyvana da sayvarlad dais-

va. Merkanis baTumeli sayvareli,

Turq “damsaqmebels” qarTvel Sua-

mavalTan urTierTobas uSlida,

amis gamo erkansa da qarTvel qal-

batons urTierToba daeZabaT da sa-

bolood TanamSromlobac Sewyvi-

tes.

- es qarTveli qalbatoni, ram-

denadac vici, TurqeTSi gaTxovi-

lia da Turqi meuRle hyavs. ratom

eWvianobda erkanis sayvareli qarT-

vel Suamavalze?

- ar vici, magram faqtia, rom

isini waaCxuba da TanamSromloba

Seawyvetina.

- male dagasaqmes Tu ara da

ramdenad Seesabameboda arsebuli

pirobebi dapirebuls?

- pirvelad ramdenime dReSi da-

masaqmes. Oor invalid bavSvs vuv-

lidi. wesiT unda mqonoda Cemi

oTaxi, sadac davisvenebdi samuSao

dRis Semdeg, unda mqonoda gamosas-

vleli dRe. Mmagram aRmoCnda, rom

dRisa da Ramis morige unda vyofi-

liyavi. bavSvebis oTaxSi momiCines

sawoli, arc dasvenebis dRe gamo-

miyves, arc oTaxi da arc samuSao

saaTebi ganmesazRvra.

Tanxas ki igives mixdid-

nen, rasac erTi norma-

luuri bavSvis movlaSi

ixdian TurqeTSi. gau-

saZlisi pirobebi iyo,

amitom erkanTan SeTanx-

mebiT male wamovedi am

samuSao adgilidan. raki

mTeli Tve ar mimuSavia,

erkans, romelic dasaq-

mebis safasurs Turqi

ojaxebisaganac iRebs,

ver gadavuxade dapire-

buli Tanxa. meore oja-

xi ramdenime dReSi momi-

Zebna. amjerad moxuc in-

valids vuvlidi. iq sak-

maod kargad meqceodnen.

pirvelive xelfasze erkanis “vali”

mTlianad gavistumre, magram meore

Tvis dasawyisSive moxuci gardaic-

vala da Sesabamisad, umuSevari dav-

rCi. rasakvirvelia, isev ofisSi

davbrundi, radgan, SeTanxmeba

gvqonda, rom isev unda davesaqmebi-

ne. 12 dRe da Rame ofisSi, auta-

nel sibiZuresa da antisanitariaSi

divanze meZina. dReSi orjer ham-

burgers maWmevdnen da imasac mamad-

lidnen. erkani meubneboda –

mibrZandi da Senma qarTvelma

Suamavalma dagasaqmoso, qar-

Tveli qali ki isev Turq

damsaqmebelTan miSvebda. bo-

los miTxres, gipovneT samsa-

xurio da gamamgzavres rome-

liRac qalaqSi. 6 saaTi gava-

tare gzaSi. mivedi ojaxSi,

sadac Turqmeni qalbatoni

muSaobda. qali meore diliT

unda wasuliyo samsaxuridan

da me unda davrCeniliyavi

mis adgilas. es qalic im pi-

robiT wamoiyvanes, rom dam-

saqmeblisTvis 400 dolari

unda gadaexada, magram erTma

damsaqmebelma meores gadaabara da

meorem mesames, exla ki samive

sTxovda fuls, imaSi rom es qali,

rogorc iqna erT samsaxurSi moawy-

ves. amitomac, Turqmeni qalbatoni

saxlSi dabrunebas apirebda, magram

qals pasporti gamoarTves da manam

ar miscemdnen, sanam 1200 dolars

ar gadaixdida. (anu samive damsaq-

meblisTvis 400-400 dolars).

Turqmenma, romelsac, rasakvirve-

lia, ar hqonda es Tanxa, darCena

gadawyvita. Tavs imiT iimedebda,

rom am valis gastumrebis Semdeg

passports daibrunebda da ukve

xelfassac Tavad aiRebda.

- anu Tqven isev umuSevari dar-

CiT?

- diax. Camsves avtobusSi da

isve mersinSi gamomiSves. isev 6 sa-

aTi vimgzavre. gzidan erkans davu-

reke da vTxove sadgurze damxved-

roda, magram ar damxvda. isev davu-

reke, miTxra: sadac ginda wadi, Tu

ginda isev Sens saqarTveloSi dab-

rundi, magram ofisSi ar moxvide,

davketeTo. qarTvel Suamavals da-

vureke, arc is apirebda damxmarebo-

da, magram vuTxari: - aqve moviklav

Tavs da sanam Tavs moviklav, yvelas

gavagebineb, ris da vis gamo vakeTeb

amas-Tqo. Aamis Semdeg momakiTxa, is

Rame masTan gamaTevina, da gamafr-

Txila, Tu erkanma darekos, ar

uTxra CemTan rom xaro. meore dRes

ki saqarTveloSi gamomistumra.

- mainc ratom aRar mogiZebnaT

erkanma axali samuSao adgili?

- ar vici. faqtia, me gadaxdili

mqonda Tanxa, romelsac dasaqmebis

safasurad mTxovda.

- ukacravad, am kiTxvisTvis,

magram seqsualuri urTierToba ar

SemouTavazebiaT?

- mxolod erTxel. avtobusSi

Turqma SemomTavaza, magram rogorc

ki uari vuTxari, meored aRarc ga-

umeorebia. Tu uars etyvi, namdvi-

lad aravin gaiZulebs da aravin ga-

viwroebs.

msgavsi istoria, albaT, Tur-

qeTSi bevr qarTvel qalbatons ga-

daxdomia Tavs. UTumca, TurqeTSi

samuSaod wasvla, saqarTveloSi

umuSevrobiT da ufulobiT gatan-

jul adamianebSi, mainc sarfian saq-

med iTvleba. TbilisSi uamravi

ofisia, romlebic saqarTvelodan

TurqeTSi dasaqmebas kurireben.

erT-erT maTgans davukavSirdi:

-ggamarjobaT. TurqeTSi minda

dasaqmeba, ojaxSi, Tumca Turquli

ar vici.

-ra uSavs, eg dasaqmebaSi ar

gviSlis xels. Turquli advilad

gasagebi enaa da male iswavliT.

- pirobebs ver gamacnobT?

- 200 dolars ixdiT da ojax-

Si samuSaod giSvebT.

- mxolod 200 dolars? iq

TurqeTSi arafers vixdi?

- ki, iq iqaur damsaqmebelTanac

ixdiT xelfasis naxevars.

- Tu ojaxi ar momewona an pi-

robebi damxvdeba gausaZlisi?

- Cven aucileblad mogiZebniT

axal ojaxs imdenjer, ramdenjerac

saWiro iqneba. es Cveni movaleobaa.

- Tu lodini momixda samsaxuri

gamoCenamde, Rames sad gavaTev da

vin mipatronebs?

- rasakvirvelia, Turqi damsaq-

mebeli. amaze ar inerviuloT. Tanac

es mxolod ramdenime dRe gagrZel-

deba. samsaxurs advilad gipovnian.

- ra sabuTebi unda movitano?

- mxolod pasporti da rasak-

virvelia, fuli (icinis).

- gasagebia, magram an daxasiaTe-

ba Zveli samsaxuridan da an cnoba

janmrTelobis Sesaxeb ar mWirde-

ba??

- rasakvirvelia, ara.

- ratom, aralegaluria es sam-

saxurebi TurqeTSi?

- rasakvirvelia, es araoficia-

luri samsaxurebia. amitom aranairi

sabuTi, gada pasportisa ar gWirde-

baT.

davemSvidobe. Anu, pasportis da

200 dolaris garda araferia saWi-

ro. axla is damrCeba mosafiqrebe-

li, vis vesesxo es 200 dolari,

arc is mecodineba, TurqeTSi rom

gamiWirdes, vin damexmareba. arale-

galurad momuSave qarTveli mosam-

saxurisTvis TurqeTis policia

Tavs ar Seiwuxebs. qarTvelebis de-

portacia prostituciis da qurdo-

bis braldebiT imdenad xSiria, er-

TiT mets Tu gamoabunZuleben, arc

magaze idardeben, iafi muSxeli xom

miedineba da miedineba.

rac Seexeba prostitucias,

codva gamxelili sjobs, da qarT-

velebi ise arc magaze amboben uars

TurqeTSi. saqarTveloSi qmrebs

fuli xom unda gadmouricxon, rom

mere qmarma am fuliT “birJaze”

Zmakacebs ludi da sigareti uyidos

da sayvarels sunamo. Tumca, bolo

dros saqarTveloSi imdenad bevri

Turqi cxovrobs, qarTvelebs ioli

gziT fulis gasakeTeblad TurqeT-

Si siaruli aRar gviwevs. saqarTve-

loSi, Turqi mamakacebi jer inter-

netiT gvitevdnen: veZeb samegobrod

qarTvel qals, romelsac

uzrunvelvyof da davexmare-

bi materialurad. - msgavs

gancxadebebs internetSi

mravlad SexvdebiT. erT-erT

maTgans gamovexmaure:

-ggamarjoba. megobrobaSi

ras gulisxmob?

- seqss. me didi xania sa-

qarTveloSi vcxovrob da Za-

lian momwons qarTveli qa-

lebi.

- bevr qals xvdebi?

- adre vxvdebodi, axla

ara. minda erTi myavdes. er-

Ti kargi gogo gavicno da

imasTan viyo. davexmarebi yve-

lanairad. (uswavlia, qarTuli

“padxodi”)

Turqebi arc barebSi an res-

tornebSi sxedan gulxeldakrefil-

ni. ramdenime dRis win “TaRlaura-

Si” samma qarTvelma 5 Turqi scema.

mizezi: Turqebi or qarTvel gogos

gadaekidnen, RamiT maTTan erTad

wasvlas sTavazobdnen da ar eSve-

bodnen. rogorc momiyvnen, qarTvel-

ma biWebma es SeniSneso, gareT ga-

moyvanes es Seni Turqebi da ise

scemeso, rom qalebisken gaxedva mi-

nimum 2 kvira aRarc moundebodaT

(da aRarc SeeZlebodaTo).

jer kidev SegvrCenia, etyoba,

jigari da mciredi Tavmoyvareoba.

Tamuna keSelava

P.S. masalaze muSaoba ukve das-

rulebuli mqonda, roca erT-eerT

forumze TurqeTSi momuSave qarT-

velebze diskusias wavawydi. erTni

ambobdnen – ra vqnaT gviWirs da

gvasaqmebeno, meoreni – Turqebis

samaTxovro ra gvWirs, mirCevnia aq

viSimSiloo da mesameni – erTi yve-

lasi magaTio. erT mosaubres lin-

ki daedo forumze: -AAaha, naxeT da

datkbiTo. naxeT, Cabnelebul sar-

dafSi rogor sxedan aTamde Turqi

da uyureben narkotikiT gabruebu-

li qarTveli qalisa da jiSiani

Turquli ZaRlis seqsso. Turqebi

rogor dascinian qals da Tan ra

siamovnebiT amcirebeno. – ver gavbe-

de videos naxva!

aris Tu ara legaluri TurqeTSi dasaqmeba, rogori ofisebi aqvT Turqul firmebs da ra

safrTxeebs vawydebiT ucxo qveynis teritoriaze

koalicia “qarTuli ocne-

bis” warmomadgenlis, Tina xi-

daSelis gancxadebiT, “nacio-

naluri moZraobis” Semomwir-

velebis qonebis dayadaRebis

Sesaxeb, saxelmwifo auditis

samsaxuris mier gavrcelebu-

li cnoba, sazogadoebisTvis

Tvalis axvevas emsaxureba.

rogorc “medianiusTan”

saubrisas xidaSelma aRniSna,

amaze mianiSnebs is faqti, rom

aRniSnuli uwyebis samsaxuris

mier gavrcelebul gancxadebaSi arcerTi Semomwirve-

lis gvari da saxeli araa dakonkretebuli, maSin ro-

ca “qarTuli ocnebis” Semomwirvelebze auditis samsa-

xuri mudmivad detalur informacias aqveynebda.

“maSin roca koalicis Semomwirvelebis lamis mo-

biluri telefonis nomersac ki aqveyneben, ratom ar

aris dakonkretebuli am xuTi piris vinaoba?! sazoga-

doebam xom unda gaigos, vin arian es pirebi. mxolod

es erTi garemobac ki bevr rameze metyvelebs”,_aRniS-

na Tina xidaSelma

SegaxsenebT, rom ramdenime dRis win, arasamTavro-

bo organizacia “saerTaSoriso gamWirvaloba _ saqar-

Tvelom” saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuri politikuri

subieqtebis mimarT SerCeviT samarTalSi daadanaSaula

da ganacxada, rom kontrolis palatam TebervalSi “

nacionaluri moZraobis” xuTi Semomwirveli mxolod

mas Semdeg scno samarTaldamrRvevad, roca maT aRniS-

nul Semomwirvelebze informacia gamoiTxoves.

amasTan, arasamTavrobo organizaciis TqmiT, saxe-

lisuflebo partiis Semomwirvelebi auditis samsa-

xurma mxolod samarTaldamrRvevad scno da ar daaja-

rima, roca amave periodSi, analogiur saqmeebze “qar-

Tuli ocnebis” warmomadgenlebs soliduri jarimebi

daakisra.

“saerTaSoriso gamWvirvalobis” mier gakeTebuli

aRniSnuli gancxadebidan ramdenime dReSi saxelmwifo

auditis samsaxurma informacia gaavrcela imis Sesaxeb,

rom “nacionaluri moZraobis” xuTi Semomwirvelis

qonebas yadaRa daedo, Tumca maT bolomde ar gaiTva-

liswines gamWvirvalobis rekomendaciebi da gancxade-

baSi saxelisuflebo partiis Semomwirvelebis Sesaxeb

monacemebi ar gamoaqveynes.

`medianiusi~

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ba, rom bavSvs Cautardes Zvlis tvinis Re-

rovani ujredebis gadanergvis gadaudebeli

operacia, romlisTvisac saWiroa 250 000

evro. amxela odenobis Tanxis Segroveba

samwuxarod aRemateba Cvens yvela saSuale-

bas da amitomac gadavwyviteT, mogvemarTa

TqvenTvis daxmarebisTvis.

gTxovT, gulTan axlos miitanoT pata-

ra Llukas mdgomareoba, gamoiCinoT gulis-

xmiereba da SesaZleblobis farglebSi, ne-

bismieri odenobis (mcireodeni) Senatane-

biT, dagvexmaroT operaciisTvis saWiro

Tanxebis SegrovebaSi.

sabanko rekvizitebi:bankis kodi: KSBGGE22 bankis dasaxeleba: kor-sstandart banki

angariSi: GE19KS0000000360800511GEmimRebi: a(a)ip luka wuleiskiris daxma-

rebis fondi

winaswar gixdiT did madlobas Tqveni

Tanadgomisa da daxmarebisTvis.

lukas ojaxi

patara lukas Tqveni Tanadgoma gadaarCens

gvesaubrebian astro-pparafsiqologi, qalbatoni ana lenormani da

naTelmxilveli maguli vaSakiZe

_ qalbatono ana, sakmaod rTuli da problematuri periodia politi-

kuri viTarebidan da bunebrivi kataklizmebidan gamomdinare. Tqveni prog-

noziT, rogori Semodgoma elodeba saqarTvelos?

ana lenormani: Semodgoma sakmaod rTuli

da daZabuli iqneba. Aaxla zafxulia, dasvenebis

periodi, amitom daviwyeb imiT, rom mze aris Za-

lian aqtiuri da saSiSi. bevr daavadebas gamo-

iwvevs wlevandeli aqtiuri mze. Kkidev bevri ka-

taklizmia mosalodneli, ara marto CvenTan,

aramed mTeli msoflios masStabiT, bunebrivi

katastrofebi iqneba iseT adgilebSic ki, sadac

aravin elodeba. vis sad waeweva anomaluri si-

tuacia, aravin icis.

seqtemberi da oqtomberi mZime periodi iqne-

ba. Ggarda imisa, rom arCevnebia, daemateba isic,

rom xalxi gamova quCaSi. iqneba SuRli, ojaxeb-

Sic ki mosalodnelia ganxeTqileba. politikur

speqtrSi didi cvlilebebi iqneba, daiwyeba gamosvlebi, vxedav sisxlisRv-

ris saSiSroebas. dapirispirebas vxedav ubralo moqalaqeebSic.

_ es arCevnebamde iqneba Tu mis mere?

_ arCevnebamdec da Semdgomac. Zalian rTuli iqneba am wlis meore na-

xevari. Yyvela Tavisi skamisTvis ibrZvis da es bevr cuds mogvitans. Tum-

ca cxovreba aseTia, kibesaviTaa, roca erTi Cadis, meore adis...

_ ivaniSvilsa da saakaSvils gulisxmobT?

_ modiT, amjerad nu damakonkretebinebT, jobs daskvnebi Tavad gamoi-

tanoT. winaswarmetyvelTa sityvebs dafiqreba da axsna esaWiroeba...

mxolod imas getyviT, saarCevno periodSi daZabuloba gaizrdeba da saq-

me SeiZleba sisxlisRvramde mivides...

maguli vaSakiZe: me adrec araerTxel viwi-

naswarmetyvele areulobebis Sesaxeb. albaT, gax-

sovT Tqvens gazeTSi daibeWda interviu, romel-

Sic vsaubrobdi sisxlisRvris Sesaxeb parlamen-

tis mimdebare teritoriaze. marTlac amas mohyva

gasuli wlis 26 maisis ambebi, romelic msxverp-

liT dasrulda.

axlac bevriT verafriT gagaxarebT, radgan Za-

lian ar momwons axlo momavlis suraTebi, rac

ukve araerTxel meCvena. axla jer kidev zafxu-

lia, mkvdari sezoni. varaudobdnen, rom aqtiuri

politikuri cxovreba wels adre daiwyeboda, mag-

ram ase ar moxda. aqtiuri procesebi seqtembri-

dan iwyeba. erTbaSad daiwyebs daZabuloba zrdas.

gansakuTrebiT ar momwons samegrelos regioni, kerZod, zugdidi. iq vxedav

momavali daZabulobis dasawyiss. mova seqtembris Sua ricxvebi da isev vxe-

dav sisxlisRvras, dapirispirebas, provokaciebs.

_ es xom ar imoqmedebs arCevnebis TariRze?

_ meCvena amisi albaTobac. SeiZleba ise daiZabos situacia, rom arCev-

nebis dRezec imoqmedos. magram erTs getyviT: gamarjveba mainc imisia, vinc

cdilobs movides. magram aris kidev erTi momenti: damarcxebis SemTxveva-

Si vxedav uares sisxlisRvras da dapirispirebas, vidre arCevnebis dRemde.

_ ra igulisxmeba, represiebi Tu samoqalaqo dapirispireba?

_ orive. wmenda, ase vTqvaT da samoqalaqo siZulvili. Tavs iCens samo-

qalaqo dajaxebis mcdeloba. es procesebi cota droSi gaiweleba, magram

ukeTesoba iqneba. amis imedi unda viqonioT.

Tamuna qadagiZe

ras winaswarmetyveleben naTelmxilvelebi

winasaarCevno periodisa da arCevnebis Sesaxeb

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ttii.. 44.. mmeettllaaxxii.. 55.. aannaappuurrnnaa.. 66.. ppaannaa.. 77.. kkooss-

mmooddrroommii,,.. 88.. vvaadduuccii.. 99.. ddiisskkrriimmiinnaacciiaa.. 1100..

ccaaiittnnoottii.. 1111.. ttuubbeerroozzaa.. 1122.. vviikkoonnttii.. 1133.. bbii-

kkiinnii.. 1144.. ssttookkeerrii.. 1155.. ffeessvveebbii.. 1166.. kkaattoo.. 1177..

nnoottii.. 1188.. ggoorriioo.. 1199.. SSaallkkee.. 2200.. CCiiTTiillii.. 2211..

SSeeTTee.. 2222.. rruurrkkii.. 2233.. SSaammoottii.. 2244.. nnaacciiaa.. 2255..

ttrriipplleettii.. 2266.. ssaarrkkooffaaggii.. 2277.. mmeellaannii.. 2288..

JJiivviillii.. 2299.. cceerrcceettii.. 3300.. rroosstteevvaann.. 3311.. iiddee-

bbii.. 3322.. tteerrffii.. 3333.. aallaanniiaa.. 3344.. rraaffssooddiiaa.. 3355..

rruuqqnnaaddiinnii.. 3366.. llaaddaa.. 3377.. ddiioorraammaa.. 3388.. uuaaiittii..

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aabboorrttmmaaxxeerrii.. 4433.. ppaassttiillaa.. 4444.. ttaarrbbii.. 4455..

lleessii.. 4466.. ddiinnii.. 4477.. bboommbboorraa.. 4488.. ddoonn.. 4499..

bboonnii.. 5500.. bbiilliiaaSSii.. 5511.. lloommbbaarrddiiaa.. 5522.. vvaallee-

rriiaannaa.. 5533.. aannddrreeii.. 5544.. ttiittuullii.. 5555.. mmoollooxxii..

5566.. rreeii.. 5577.. kkiinnSSaassaa.. 5588.. kkaabbiirriiaa.. 5599.. aarriiss-

ttootteellee.. 6600.. ssuullgguunnii.. 6611.. ssooiioo.. 6622.. pprree-

rriiaa.. 6633.. ppiizzaa.. 6644.. aazziizzaa.. 6655.. ttaarriiggii.. 6666.. ggaann-

ZZeellii.. 6677.. mmaarruullaa..

astrologiuri

prognozi

verZi _ am kviraSi bevri

saintereso da mniSvnelo-

vani cvlilebebi geliT. ar

aris gamoricxuli garkveuli wi-

nsvla gqondeT samsaxurSi.

kuro _ kviris dasawyi-

sSi mogiwevT saqmiani wina-

dadebebis ganxilva, sadac

Tqven garda, adamianTa garkveuli

jgufic miiRebs monawileobas.

tyupebi _ yuradRebis

centrSi moeqceviT da

Tqven garSemo mimdinare

procesebSic aqtiurad mogiwevT

CarTva.

kirCxibi _ saintereso

kvira geliT. Tu SeZlebT

da sakuTar Canafiqrebs ko-

nkretul miznamde daiyvanT da ama-

sTan qmediT nabijebsac gadadgamT,

maSin moaxerxebT seriozuli da

pozitiuri cvlilebebis ganxo-

rcielebas.

lomi _ am penriodSi Se-

saZlebelia mgzavroba mogi-

wioT. amasTan, saintereso

winadadebebis ganxilvac mogiwevT.

qalwuli _ SesaZloa

SeityoT axali informacia,

romelsac didi xania elo-

debiT. ar aris gamoricxuli es

dakavSirebuli iyos samsaxurTan.

saswori _ mimdinare

kviraSi mosalodnelia, ga-

rkveuli gadafasebebis ga-

keTeba da axali saqmeebis dagegma-

reba mogixdeT.

morieli _ iyaviT aqti-

uri da ukve arCeul mizans

mizanmimarTulad mihyeviT,

Tumca, gamoiCineT maqsimaluri si-

frTxile.

mSvildosani _ mosa-

lodnelia, gagiuaresdeT

emociuri mdgomareoba da

nervuli sistemac dageZaboT. amis

mizezi isev da isev Tavad iqnebiT.

Txis rrqa _ es kvira

Cveulebriv tempSi warima-

rTeba da saqmiani aqtivoba

saSualoze maRali iqneba, rac,

sxvaTa Soris, gazrdis Tqvens pr-

oduqtiulobas.

merwyuli _ ar aris

gamoricxuli, Zlieri emo-

ciuri datvirTvebi gqond-

eT, Tumca es ufro axlobelTa

problemebis gamo warmoiSveba. nu-

ravis nurafers dahpirdebiT.

Tevzebi _ mosalodne-

lia Tqveni saqmianobis an

biznesis reformireba mo-

giwioT da amaSi Tqveni axlo-

blebi da kompanionebic iqnebian

CarTuli. iqneba imis albaTobac,

rom mogiwioT saxelmwifo orga-

nizaciebTan da Tanamdebobis pire-

bTan urTierToba.

`̀ffoorrbbssmmaa~~ wwlliiss yyvveellaazzee ggaavvlleenniiaanniiqqaallbbaattoonnii ddaaaassaaxxeellaa

`forbsis~ mi-

xedviT, wlis

gavleniani qal-

batonebis siis

saTaveSi amjera-

dac germaniis

kancleri angela

merkeli dgas.

es misi ukve

meeqvse `gamarj-

vebaa~, mxolod

erTxel, 2010

wels mas miSel

obamam gauswro. wleuls ki amerikis pirveli ledi meSvide

adgilzea.

jerjerobiT myar meore adgils aSS-is saxelmwifo mdi-

vani hilari klintonis ikavebs.

mesame adgilze braziliis prezidenti dilma rusefia.

SarSan reitingSi is 94-e adgilze iyo.

meoTxe adgili `maikrosoftis~ patronis bil geitsis

meuRles melindas

ukavia. igi aqtiurad

aris CarTuli qvel-

moqmedebaSi. mexuTe

adgilis mflobeli

`niu-iork taimsis~

mTavari redaqtori

jil abramsonia.

Semdeg modis biz-

nes-qalbatonebi, ro-

melTa Soris msxvi-

li kompaniebis top-

menejerebic arian.

magaliTad, opra uin-

fri me-11 poziciazea,

xolo 38-ze momRe-

rali jenifer lopesi. mis epataJur kolegas ledi gagas me-

14 adgili uWiravs. Tanac 26 wlis ledi gaga yvelaze axal-

gazrda warmomadgenelia `forbsis~ cnobil qalbatonebs So-

ris. yvelaze xandazmuli am CamonaTvalSi 86 wlis dedofa-

li elisabed meorea, is 26-e adgilzea.

rusuli warmoSobis arc erTi qalbatoni wleuls am si-

aSi ar moxvedrila. Tavis droze siaSi iulia timoSenko

iyo. axla is `sxva~ siaSia.

ddiiddxxaannss ZZiillii ssaaffrrTTxxiiss SSeemmccvveelliiaazedmeti wonisgan

rom Tavi daicvaT,

dReSi 9 saaTze meti

ar unda iZinoT, _

gvirCeven vaSingtone-

li mecnierebi.

rogorc cxadi

gaxda, zedmeti Zili

zedmet wonas warmo-

Sobs.

Caatares cda, rom-

lis mixedviT, cdispirTa nawils 7 saaTi eZina, nawils _ 9

saaTi da meti. aRmoCnda, rom 9 saaTze met xans Zili or-

ganizmSi Warb wonas warmoqmnis.

mmeeccnniieerreebbii SSeeaaSSffooTTaa kkaatteebbiiss ssaaiidduummlloo ccxxoovvrreebbaamm

jorjiis universitetis mec-

nierebma saocari ram aRmoaCines.

60 kataze cda Caatares. mec-

nierebi akvirdebodnen cxove-

lebs videokameriT da swavlob-

dnen maTi cxovrebis detalebs.

aRmoCnda, rom katebis 30 pro-

centi nadirobda, 49 procenti

_ erToboda, 21 procents ki na-

nadirevi saxlSi mihqonda.

Sinauri katebis ZiriTadi

nanadirevi wylis xvlikebi, gvelebi da bayayebi aRmoCnda, Sem-

degi 25 procenti mRrRnelebs etanebodnen, 20 procenti pep-

lebs da matlebs, Citebs _ 12 procenti. ekologebi miiCneven,

rom katebi arian zogierTi jiSis frinvelis gaqrobis mizezi.

am Teorias frinvelTa dacvis amerikuli komitetis preziden-

ti jorj fenviki avrcelebs.

kvlevam cxadhyo, rom ojaxis katebis 45 procenti samanqa-

no gzas gadaWris xolme, 20 procenti yovelgvar sisaZagles

svams da Wams. amasTanave, katebis nawili `or ojaxSi~ cxov-

robs da patronis erTguli sulac araa.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-

neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-

velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-

gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.

rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda

gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-

velno, erTad RvTisaken!

RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!

meuRle medea mamulaSvili, Svilebi: ana, xaTuna, naTia, xatia ken-

WaZeebi, da-Zma murad da mzia kenWaZeebi, siZeebi: mixeil fuxaSvili,

mixeil wereTeli, daviT Sermadini, colisda leila mamulaSvili,

disSvilebi, ZmisSvilebi da naTesavebi ojaxebiT iuwyebian, rom gar-

daicvala saqarTvelos televiziis Rvawlmosili muSaki, saqarTve-

los sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis ufrosi inJineri

aavvTTaannddiill kkeennWWaaZZeeppaannaaSSvviiddii: 28-29 agvistos 5 saaTidan.

mmiissaammaarrTTii: d/diRomi, 3 m/r-ni, 29 korp. 2 sadarbazo, 8 sarTuli.

ggaammoossvveenneebbaa: 30 agvistos, d/diRmis wm. nikolozis taZridan 3 saaTze.