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,.rli:a~.a~wy $C(TC'&Af) •-.e been am•Cftld Shall lhe re-maini rtg quutioM bt- 1 tao.·td to stud"

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Tbc HouJc. r~wnled 4:kbi•te ur. tbe motion of M r. Chreticn, M~CUI)Cfcd by M r. Robc:rtt. for an Addr.:ss 10 l lcr Majest)' tbc Queer.~ respcctin,.the C«<t;lirution ofCanad11.,

And oo •br: ~~of Mr. Epp. 5CCMdod b)' Mr. & ka (ro-~atk40fl)-TUt the moboa be ai'I!Wftkd •• ScW.ac 8 oltht pt'OI)OlCd rqo~.,_,. by dekt .. ClaiOC 46. ad b)' lflOlki.nJ alJ nec.~t) cll.lnan to t!K Scbcdwk C~CW~Stquc:ntial I hereto.

Mr. Ntbon A. ltll• (lb .. IOI)p!i·Siw~,.•P): Mr. Speaker, y~tcrday a 1 the cl\l!IC ot 1 be siuing I \IOIU re.fc:l'rios to tbc section or 1he charter dc::.ll;,g \Jto'itb hcro~n rlcht•. J bc:liC'\<t: that C.udill.R$ gcnenll)' t..~ t he ftclifl& tllat lhcir tNuic riz)lu al!d frtedoms an~ 't'CfY •dl prOCcctcd ia Canadt.. Althou&&l out record i5 omai111ty fat brttu dwl thl1 cl 11*1 aatiou. rt is eot

bcyofld repon»dt. ()u pul. a..S indeed nom OUf fii'UCill. ~ •itJICS.Ud muy iMII*Xt olcfQ5S. ,nd bbttnt ducnmiatiOII wbcrc arouJlil and lndi'fklgul ngbtJ and frt'Odonu we~ vid_(IQS· h' abused and In &Ome ell.tn:-:me eaJicf wcrtl eliminated completel)'.

RecaJl, few e . ..&•Yll)1c:. the tatal ge~M~Cidc. or the Beottauk Indians of Nc:•fouNtland "lllbctc: an so.ne c.,c:11 the llldiam. were COM;idered a5 bdna less that1 hu.mu al'ld allot for ,,.porL eo.sidu- tbc. dltow~ucb of CIUMK • ho •'ft'll twoupl iAlo British Col•mbia d•rint tk I~ ... Wel'(.. for all pnttic:a.l p!lrpo&C$. $bvd. nis wu cJcady dcmoMtr•to4 i• lbc: ()Qmi ...

i-on ElectioN At:t o( IU5 in whic-.11. ChlncM ~e • ·ere tlltc&oriztd a:~ ..ot bclna pel'60m.

We bavc h«n rc:min!Jc:d m.uy times in th< pu'' numbc:.r at • ·ccb or the l:l,(l(J(I C11nadian~ or J11panesc. «l,&in who were: fOKibly moved from their t.omes aloos the •'Clll ~113-t 1uldcr lhe War Ma~uru. Act. ,_.bny ol liS u:d .. y ~hlitddcr at the rccollcc:lioo of the wN.t.hiq of tbt Woodwort m' Union d•rinalltd.r dYoru tO •cpcc::sem -ortiJq pciOflle i• NC'WfOWidlaod.

lnert was the JOCbl pol itical (orn' of tht K• Khu Kla.n d1.1ri.n1 the 19J0s in Cul\ld;,j, again liftins itt. w&IY head tl)lby. Vrtdc:r tbe Ouplc"'"l• ~aimc the« \lo"tte numcrmut examplc.i ~ both rdlgious and politkl•l di.scriminntian and I)CN«ut.ion.

In recent UU~C~ tile toYrtftmc.nt or Alberta au~mpled ~o II'IIUif*tlle lk free ptCSi ia tbtt P'f'O"...OC aacl JI&M lt&idldon abtii~ \lie: ri&lllts ...S (~ of the H•ucrite p«lllk. la BntWI Colu:lbb. dlctc. Wti bblaDI r.dat dtsaiMiU~ apintt tile Sikhs .Mrxc- arri¥il'lcln th.lll prcwino: at the- t•t• v(

tbe «ntuty and. lill'lfottuMkly, h still ~mains today. AI •-a• in\JK:nl«l in tQCby's qucstioo period, lhe fede-ral IO"'CI'nl'!lcnt ~t ill IT'IIIIillalm di$Criminatins prwl~ions r<prdin& nal l\'1! lndilln women uildet the lndinn 1\et,

Thollc' JIUClioc:l mui:t 001 be 11llowcd to oootinu.c or to occur attia. •• the cue may be. Tllat h w.'b)' we PIPJ!Oft the:

rn.a,k cl u cnt.t'diC:Ihc:d c:harwt Gl riPts. To tttoJ,e wbo ay, "Yw~ 1110C P'IGC ri&llts ltlthe pciOIIk.

you're JiYlq tkrn to the couru'", I Qa oely fqlty ... Wiut kplt)lltcm wonb;y of tbc u .mc. ift ptO¥idil'll (Of riclus dou.a'l

ktl\'e the: intcrprt-t.atioB 1nd enforcement of these riahta 11) adjudlcutkln't" If wt . are scr""'ll 1bout P")t«tin& minorluc• and l)fOtt:Cdng against dl$ctlminntiOI\, or COtlr'$1: the OOUfll will l\lvc tO providt: proccaion. Wbo prutccted tbe Huttcrhc• « tbc J1p1nc5e Culadiaod Wbo protected rrecdo~t~ of tt.G fiKlil i• Albtn• or rtli,pi:JD$ or politkt_l (~ in Qutbot? Noc 11tc ~t•ra. 1lle diakctic:al tealiolt bd•~ ooart:t.. riti· zw=-. aid kfblat•m: is a p:nn&Mftt btarc f1l Ollt dc:lnOCfltJt

'OJ of life, aM thoK who AY "'k«f' tk ~ru Slll"a)' from prot«tin• our riglus .. surely m~ndcutund tbe importo..et or tbc lc~&AI and judi1.i.1l pt~g in ts.:flni"-' libe:rty itself.

In uny c:Me, tbcrc is nothinjl, ill the pecln.&c beCorc u5 that we ure Pl'dCntl)' debnting whl<:h ptew:nts prc>¥"incial lo&illla· turti ol'd the r .. -ttcral &0\'crnmc:nt from rcspoctina the rlghlli or their dtbb& What we ba''C hotre Is a safety net, a11 1ddcd pr«c~c:Cioft., .ome a:ttl $CICUrity tblt in cue pro"'inclal ~· ••m. or lk rcdcr.tJ Parfia-.1 do aot rapec1 tJrtc. na.~~u. tllcre 1t r~ to t1tc cotit11.

TheM ate d1all&ing timet. C.._nadiaA $0dct) W l:lc<locnc: e:uremdy dynamic. h it lmpcntiv( th:u OUJ Cl)nsticutkln ~Ooc:t tl'liJ dyn~u.,ism in Cnnndi11n cultu~. Th<:rero-r~ it b imperAtive tOOt the C<~ns-tltutloo or Canada include an umc:.nd· int rorrnuiJJ .... •hlcb is Ocltible c:nouah to proYidc (or hu• C\'OIV• in.& .act)' wltile stiU refloctlnj6 tbc fedenl aad rc&i<MI•d n11 turc or.,., to~~ntry.

The a. ~cd is • tnaical a!IW:ftdi:n& form•la allld ••th approc!rirltc co-opcralioll a.pc to ao a loof; Q) .,.....,.

Athl)i_, the c:unttmS rqMetcd OI'J'Cr lbt pm ... ,.tm ol months. 1t •ivea e<Jeh <JI out fout major «lion\ of C.a111d. a veto on w~tluational chanJO. While it idelltific:s C<M~r rc&iOM, one could easily justify fi\'c., c::l&hl. or an infinite number or tcclon'- but I believe we can live with tbc. rc:giOM I>ropoiCd •~ beina o 1c:awnab!e effott tO mchJ popuJation nulfl~ri and J.COCr&pbit aru. This formub tnvollOC.J •.he ptO''inocs In lht :amcnctlna JlfO(lCidure.. • praooch.-re wlrlkll iJ dC$iVIed tO cnwrc that t1.1~u1W suppon o.dta from ad ol tbe foor rqtoM o(

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rcle:rrina tO the $0"t:llllcd Vai\ICOUVH rormu!2 wbkh woukl resemble: the fotmub. •-e arc Pfe3'01'1tly diswssing buc Yo'OIIId aii<IW lilty p!V'fintt tO OCJ4 Out of a JUrisdictional dodll"lfl

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4ilr«tly aff'«:tfn& that Pf~·inct. Su<:b a rormula. 1n m)' ''iew. iJ lund.mwntAII)' wrong 1wd lneohcrent. How CIA 11 province: .. l>pl ..,ut" of (hlii\.&CI: tQ suc;b redQml ins:titutirnu• :u• the Senate or t he Sulltl't:tt,c Court? Is it aer~sly c:ootcndcd that the Crirrtl· n.1 l Code .tllourd apply 1n tot.lnitoN but !lOt l11 $ukatc:hcwan. « t.Ut Pf'O"•~ sbollkl be tbk 10 ,tet allll ct.oo.e what rok they wrC)U)4 ~~~ar ill c ... a·~ MtioNI M!C~~CJC.'! Wllc:re tht form•la il not iiiOGhumt. it profouDd1)' fl)iSutwkn.unds lbc ti:IIU.Ie or r._-.:ter-,lfism, which jUtclf indudQ the: I'COOa.rtition or uttcgnl)' whhin \\'~1 !ll'e the c:tplfcitl)' tC((IIJIIb.N fidd~ ur nationaJ jurllldJ.ctic.>n. 11 is l'lurd IG see bow CUII'Ir~Wfl cidz.en.ship tul di~t 1r '*si" buman rlthllllarc diJfcrent (t\'lm provim"c to PfO'I'irlc;L O.C cwkl abo ~- l1le OOMtllvuo•li•r ol lk .,.ehed;o-bolf'd- Of -patctw-"Oft qu1h-,._ elbUII\U fiPU. • (UIOI

h will b.: <:lw r by now tMt I d(l not believe th:tt Canada Is . ~imply tl'le ' Um Of il! p;n'l~ l)f a "comnntnity or COIIImun.itics ... I do oot t«'tpt tbe view tbllt tht fede:n~l i'C)¥Crn.mc:nt is tltc :I ,@:'Cat q( ta.. Pf'O"irlccs. U..t ••tdy b tQ 6coy tk ClOI'lSiil.ur..iOIWIJ realit) ,.,., tht' Fathcn '01 Cofl(cdcratioa formed • fcdcutiou whose Mtlona l 10\'etrtment has lmpurtanl, indepc:Ddet~l powc!'l. 11nd the bmorlcal, l)(llitical, aDd ccoii<Of'l'lit:l rcfl lity t lt;~t Canadian• htl\'e· come 1q loot to their •tatJrn• ~l .,<...,.crnmcnl rm k:adentllip und material a.uiJunee. Tb111 lcu.dcrJhjp ba-s flOt :~l•·ays bcctl cx aciso:d wilh tncdliccoce a.nd rc~tralllt. Ous fcdcnl tMtit11t101111 Me ia dcsl)u~tt lk'Cd of reran.. We lu.\'C to f1.d a "'"liJ ol c:subfidllft& mote~·~- i• our CC!&B· ucm. Tbit ,,m r..-quiu • MW kackrs!lip. 1 M'~~' wtll. Tbe .sw,c ba.s been wt rl)r "new berJnllins. a nt•·appro.ch

Ye.u s u.ao M)' coJtc;i£11C, the hon. member r<W Winnipcs Noctlt Centre (Mr. Koowlc.s), wf()(;e th111 CaMd;~ needed real sy•nbob before maturif'lc triiO the thri'rina. ptOtpcrous country it (llfJltl to be: it ao!dotd • rb.1o it O«Ckd &11 tathtm and tl aceded a oo-.. ut•tioft. He .aw it lhm. C.~t~dot Ma it today. Canada n ,.urcly a country • •bosc time h-' come. h wu Lnurier '1100 said tllnl the: twentieth CCI!lll l')' wtll bclon& tq Caoadl. Ut Uf Sel on with rt:111lfll.@. th:il d rcliiJl ,

My r~tmlly came to Canada from Norway :t.t t he turn ut tbt cenury. Tlloc-) lllU\'cd into tile • ·est and ktti~Cd far from tbc r.ul•ay. (.,t rrom tbe ~of then. iD titowdaJI. Tllc:yeaMC io an .:t.\.ct.n to that fta1, I'M)I fiCClC:S.'Saril) IKdpttlbk., prairie land. h ..... • chaiJcnJillf prAirie, yet whet dre., t hem i.Bio th~l environment was a drcan'l, h .,..A$ a drwn'l or oppo-rtunity.

11 drc:um o( rrc:e<fom. 11 <h t o.m of ((jualit)'. 11 WIU a drcaro thitl this • •u 1 plllc::c. wbc:nt tbeir riJbl!l would be prot«tcd end where 1ky couJd bt cli.f(«f"nl tnd maiohlill tllcir c~hutal lllc:ritqe Thd. Co.a•llutiOII • ill hdp 10 ~ tb;al tltolc dreams ftlllw" ,., Q.na.dl.

We • re 111 an histoNe moment in Canada. We bav~ an hUt(lfiC OP!)(Ittutl ity. Thllt lil • •by tbe ComUIIUiion i:s nOI "itrtl~vant'. or the privute (nntuy <Jr qnc Individual. The c:ballcnac: of eonstittnioiiJIJ. ctonomk and poUt1tal reform will be wilb .u fotl;g ~her tbc PrWnt Miadt~t (Mr Trvdc:tu) diupPQn ("*' the $CCRC. I am ·~J C!Or'illt'td that trmc is runnlnc OIIIL and 1h11 111 of us. ha\<e 10 .ctlt· 1he day,lo

1'.W c-w,, .. ,,.,_ t~dte this opponunit)' 110.,.! Ut Id tn,.,u~ Ut~t the C1n1d11 of our chjldten end ()ur chilchc:n'" ehikf~n w\11 be 1 beut:t Can;ad~. l.el us ben modd ror the world. let us make CAn+td>l t he borne of Otc Mlllit dtall~in& and dvi!rcc:d t~QCI.:t.y oo rtttb. Ou.n hu bc(n 11 p-I)Ud pas~; let ~ .a now to ~M•rt a pN!ipttOIII.i ,..,..,c.

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Mr. Ralph •·cra.•sou (Parlia.••c•t-ry Secretary tu Mlnisttr ol Stare (S .. MJIIhtd~ • nl T(l•rl$111)): Mr. Spcukcr, I am deeply honoured l()(lay 10 take put in this historic 1'hirty· J«<l'lCC Patl:iamc.n.t of C~tl::tlh.. ckb;ul:tta the «"PQ£\ of' a joint comtn.iuet of tk Hoa\C ud Sc:twt~ wlaldl Us curniotcd alld t.~ttdtc:d this bl.)tol')•ftl!&ti"* tcliOiuttOII. A ii iadotcd by the Minister of Ju~tloo (Mr. ChrC.tit'll• .,.hen be i11 troduced his rc..OI Il tion, we llav" bcc:n tryin~ t~lnoc 1927 to dt'\•c:lop un n•m::ndin.g formulu through fcdC4'11H>~owind:11 ~~~~-. luuton. These: attempts hi~e fo.ilc:d •

On cu:mi.lwtiOil ol the rea:soft for bllur~ d•rln& tho s.t~yc.r ptriod: of fr.su•tba ud andc:t). • t fi.S tU\ tK ftfY dn-USt •a:turc: of our country, of its rQOU.f'C!Ci ud its pow~1itl ttrut· u•re. mede tbc: tul: of amendmeflt ertretndy d•rfic:uh. For t hose .,.ho would Juggcs-t t hat the c:urren1 poJiliC<~ I dirrercoces ~ t() thi: railuNI q/thc; bst ro.md I)( talks, let me renuod them th~~ot on tit~ nine pre'fious Oo..'ICUtutill when tl1e ftd~t11!1 atld prowi.:~l g<WC'fflllktiU tncd 10 tuelll ~ tJI,c; Primt: t.hadtcr :alllil I""JJ"flrial pct nicn • ·tk 110t tllt same b ,-.._ WC lwrw: ICJCby

As v.~ ttfket Ofl and u:nmiM t(Jiooal ckvt.IOI)ITICIII, ll!'e tCfl lbc th~t c.-cnttlll Conada ltad approximllttly 15 year~o' tl~d ~tnrl on •·estern Cn1\Bda iu ttr!l)il of kUiemem ~:~nd developtl\otnt, 11nd JS )'~lu!li' !Lead Mart within con.fcdttatlotl. Now lk¥clopmcm ... ccOftiOI'JI.ic po-tb arc becom.t,.._ mCife •n:iw: ia tk • est. M thH ~ qtcs ,.&a«.tk indl.tstrill ck«loptMflt thl.t f<lllo-'t • iR provide a ba.laiiCC th3t ctn o.dy ktd to a tiltOntet C.uadl tCOtiOI!lkaiJy, polhttlllly 11.~ DDlionAII)', As the ... ano.us rqlo1u (Jr this nation do.,.dop their potcnti11l, thne lltl;lf t be. a bond or understa.ndina. We ~nnut ilfrord 10 huwe one: rqioo .Mippt'cillln.;, or takina :tdvuntu~~ or ;anc.Mhc.r We must watt wtrtll«. and i• tllu context the pri..:lpk of ~llllltion u Ol'llifttd io lhc: propllk'd. r~ k CNCidia.l tO OUJ Sl'lM¥al u a rut.kln..

The bClDd or unckntaOOW. and compsss.iort fof our ftll<•w Canudians c:.nnot be allo"''Cd to stop ll.t • pt.n·ind:al boundary but i booid be utend\:d h• il • -ay tl\at ••ill PfO\'ide c~J uallty of opportunity in 11(~. Ultd equiiJit)' or plltpo&e. 10 pcoplce ill 11111 tf1ica of tbit ..atiolt. Tbt bood ol uadc:Ntanchq: and our Mtiorlbxad -*'" ~ .a:rC:QJtbceod. Tile fan Wt a udon oorcr 100 )ut$ oW. 1 fll:tiofl t:A '24 miQton pl!Gplce. bu appea~ Oil 16 difrc:;rCD1 001»,.ions stn« oonredcnmon te> the parliament of 1 ruuion oo aiiUih(r oontincnl ror (:1\nngd 10 our COI\Uitution I,: utll)cccpcable in tnd11y'.s "''Ot'ld.

Canada is rcprd(d :u ane or the arcut o;ui<ln$ ot tbc world. c.~ are •II'IOft.& the ~den ln aoouibw;tiq on lt ~r apit.l tmit to w..W food aid. )d ~ JOah a tf!OC'•de oi (Mif'fiCh'O ai a nation thlt <:an~WJ~~ aaree 10 aJDCfld it• Cotlstitll-

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lio.l. Whac: 11 011 aemc. of pr14c;! S4Kdy. as a rCUC)mlbly )'OU"J but IMIWC UtiCIIO compared 10 odaet Olllllllric5.. •'C bal"C ('OI'AC • .,.. .. , •• 11' )'art.

ne tecli.n, or outncc u;prc:Ned br M* q~ tbwe 1111 oppc:N•

tiofl really Ul'll* be j"sttrl'ed. If hrlia.tncclt were to ip«c the dctaoer.lle .t)'tiCtn o( rcprcscntalioa. at wt do 11 the first minbtcrt' mcc:tln.aa wbcrt each province has equal input, tb~ body could IMl4 jU4tlfy iue:lr, or jldtiCy iu actions. Such action iJ n.ot IBdlcotivc of rcpmCJltation by populati(ln.

To un4cr'!ICOrc wtmt I l'l.e:.n, tl\ay ( ttm.ibd bon. mcmbc:l'3 thot In Prtnee lldwurd hlnnd, r~ e,x:amplt:, thttt ~tt &bout 113.000 Ca1'nldll\nJ:, In tbe proviDCe of Ontario there 11.rc Q'icr ciJhl milllol\ C.n"'dla il ~. The lrnbal;il)(l(: ()f J)Oplllation bet"''Cetl the provlncet iJ- \\'Oil known, )'C:t ~eh pro-rincial premier (i)r lti!itorle rcaioOf'lt hDJ bcctl gl\'t-n eqw:~J opportunity aDd impor· tancc at fcdtrlll ·pi"'¥1neial t.'On(crcncC!I. Ho-'t~·et, gh·cn equal oppanunhy, the premiers co~;~ld 001 ~eh agreement. Mem· kf'l o( thi• Thlny•kO.ltMI P11..rli.aruent must thcrcfOfc aoocpc the:i1 I'UIXIf"ibllily and CAC!QIIc tlw: fu!M:tiacls of a dcmoettti· c:ally dec:ecd body. reprac~~talh-e of tbc pop11J~tKln of C.~da, aM bnq o.r a~f!d Cout;u,Uoo home to Cuada.

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Mr. fcf'lt'l :a.: h iJ lilY ltopc. tlut tlw f!llmlb:n cl this Hone •• n act u ra~blc Caudiam •ncl ~ •M•~· b they dtd o.t May 9 Lul )-tal wild the D. member for Ed.tnOIUOII Eat~ (Mr. Ywr\o) p~ tk f.oliowi., rt:Wutioft.

TIM1 11M "'"--Ill., c ..... ''*'"'''' •1144- 10 Hd ~bid:) llle Qo.etn. Urou H« W~ IIWI VtCio ... k ,. . .... -.~,__•lit 10 k .. id kl'.w tk .. ~•lla'"'lllllf de IJIIIrMd !Cil ... •l!fVridt (o,K U., IIIIC~nl ill C'a11.W ~

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When .,. .• rcn(:Ct un the dis;c~WiOt'ls and debate duri.na tbc development of the Uriti~b Nortb Amc:ric.a Act in tltc: years !xif1>re ~flfcderation, we are reminded of the faca tMt thl!-11!. WitS 11<11 lllt.anlmou• aartcmenL In those da)'S it 11.'11$ the men\bai from Cll'ltulo We3t, l)r Upper Cunad:t. ~·bo provided the laracr p:il't or U~t m1jority to proccc:d. One of tbe men ""'bo worked 411iaeruly 10 brln@: opposing factions tog.ctber to draft the British North Amcnca AC'J of 1867 was t he Hon Ooorse Bro-.n .,..ho. lA ll~ )'OUnger )'Cllli, owned propel1y in the to-·n of 8oth..,~tl in the: ridin! I)I)W r~nltd by the bof\. tnrt:mber foe Kau (Mr. 8ony) , A MW c:oaldit.u-enc:yddinated OVI oft~ ridina o( Kc:ol lt ..... pa.n or the ridi:na I repretre:nt ~ ..,....._ CIIMCIOCa.aacb io 114} ftomScotJ&nd •• lS

)Un of .,... I• Toronto he founckd t.ht ~pet '11N&..,, trthktl wu .. ,tt ~ T1t.t Glt#~ tk ~ tht p.bt11iNr •eel cd~ •• I.Ut ti~~~JC. He wu 6Gt dcc;tcd 10 lite k_Jistum~ UKmbty ol C.Meb •• 11.51. atlrd be- ~ly ld~tcd rcpracnU~tiroll by p.lpllltior:l and a ar~ion ol tbeprori.crn.

1ft 1461. weal.c:Md by 1liAa.s. Brown left the political lfifii;JI for two )'CDtt. bucln tbc •umn-1c:r oiJ8liJ hi:s he3Jtb ttOOWcted and he rc-rurncd to tbc lc1b.lative U$Cmbly 1u. the rcpres.rnta·

~~ (tvflll tile riciJGI ol Odonl. lie foound a deacloc:t. Cankr'$ Cofttcrqu'fn •• ~ on tile (1111( UlJif. a.ad the Rd<nlCB i• l1JIPC::f C.n.tda '* ta.t otkt. CIOilkl 1101 ••"*- .... ~. the ~utum• jCNion ckadtod. P'o'<tikd wittl DO Uld in si.j:bc. but finally Brow•. a~I:U., u • private: manl:la. clisctostd a sianlncut acw appt(llch. He moved for a sdect oommiucc: to inrqu.trc imp:1rt1DIIy into the K'CttQIQI pro&lc:ms of Caoada al'lll 10 report Of'l the ~~ means o( rcmedylns: t hem. 8:rc'rll'ft's .sole nim at thllt tlm(. .... , 10 wttk the comtitlltiOIUII itnpii:S.'lt. He ,...,_~ apl)(llntcd c:lwirman ol th( $C.I« t oornminee which waa composed ur lc.ndln1 •ne•ubcn o( all panic$. :md <lC'I Ju•~ 14 the rommlttc:c reportc:d t () l'arlla•,~nt tbat tbc:rc Wll$ ~ '•J.trill'l! fC~C~Iins" lt• flh•uur of"~t fcckradve $)'llli:m" .

l..otd Monck, Oov~no• General during llaosc a)nfcdtrt. tlon )'i:llt$, i tll tod thul "O(!Qf,iC Uro••n was thre man v.'bosc oood1H::t rc:nde«<d the rwojoct of oonfedcration r~,.i~c: ... On February l Mr. Mcprry, the curl'ent publisher of Thf' GIQM. tutd Mail, do~eribcd GCIOrp 8~·n'l dl'Qrt~ 10 the Ro)>al CGmmonwc•hh Society of London In F..11gland when be: said, aod I qooec:

(lrw,• ••of'!Jrf*, '" Cll:*. ,..,. ~ Ill 1l"'" .,ob} Gtt.tp Beo-11. "''* •u • fltk lrOtc:\b ol Cuatlll• ~-. lt.illillll bifll. .. ,IMI't .., ~ l'l'firi..J ............ -- • ..,._ ~ .. A....mc. ....... .... au.w ,_, _.Wt

1 ea•• hdp -., loo&. ra.ct. with • $CaR cl pridrC <Wl slid! rdnc:..:a eo the Uoo, Oeor.,e Browa. -.Qo ~ tt:pefb!led

rart ot •) CJONihiKncy aMI ~ tbr foru.odct aod potllisltrer of T._, Glo/>l, 1 MU wllo bdit;\'cd ill C.Noeb. ucl wottcd to bri"t •boltt tlut onfbul UMOil of tbose kor ~

8ut tht:n wtlen I took •• tM ~~ ol t1ac: t'tl1l'Ctlt prubMIKr to the lt.oy~JI C01nmonwcaltb Sot;iety of Lond.otl on. Februaey l, I nnd that Latc:r on he .said. and I qootc:

V.'" ,,. .-,ty 11,. ,._ .w 11 1 •don. Rcl11i¥C «1 «ha -.:mbtn or IAO (:-ff-'tl! ... 11'1 "111...-e ~UIIfld~~

1\tr, Ptt~ri(lll: NontCIIIc:..

Mr. fert.'li!IQ~ 'f'h.-t tii)Ct~·h tn\lst bave b«n tel'ld by h'tt)'

Cnn11diuu with 11 t,l(•~e of dl.wn;ly . Mt. Megarry was renlly linyin;. tlut C.nuda i1 an immatl.lre n<'tion. The present dlly publi~htt or Tll# (jloiJtt Ulld Mull is George Brown'• 3UOCf:f&)r

in OJ•o ~~l;j~ Ullly, bocllli3C b( bu3 ~faith in Canada and DO \'lslon or Cn~d• ., A OOilntry with one or the: best systems ot 110tJal .,cl rare: or an)' nat.on in the .,.oriel. Cana4a i1 a n~don -.•btch Jlf{J'rldct ro1 iU lCnior dtitcn5 and for those iD ncc6, I flat* whM:h li Oftly Gfte of the r01,1r countriet of the -.«Id oabidt are nd c1porttn o( food and • llatiosl ,.•bicb. compared 'lt.itb Olhrtr ~ntric:s an the t:nrCLustnali..ttd wortd. bas «Qtod

fhlft jobt '"-" any Cllbc:r ainlilar c:w.otry in the tau tell )U.ts.

Ca»da k 1 ''"'- •lnd1 hat '* ot the ~ s&ancl.ard$ ol liriq ol aetr .a1iM ia lk worM u4 is ~ to .satk atl'licabl) p-eal dnp~ta. tilt lit e ol wbidl Un: pf•r~!td othn oounlrio l1tt0 "'.

Wlwll • e co.lder tilt pr~ alllli dnc~ts O¥U tile years ia othc:r Comtll!rOilwc:ahll QOUA.lric$ and Cftll difru~ncn (}( opinlotl ... idlin •11.riou re.- or the Britisb ls.lc:s lbcmtdvct, thc:ft 1 t<lpc<ttully poi11t out to tbD Ho)u:S(:: th:l.t Canada is a mat•rc ,...,,on. h il matu.re aod abk 10 decide by tlw:

Mardt l. 1981 CO MMOI<S DEJIA TES 71JS

democnuk: proces$ in tbi.s Pn.rtiamc:nl ol Clll\lda t~ oontcnt of t11o r~iOfution before us in this ckbato. 11am~ly a Comnitu• tlun tnd a bill ol rights mad.e in Ct•rtudit- ror ttll Canudil•ns.

The cff<wt' or tb.1t first publishes or Tire> Globtt, t he hi>n. o-a~ Drown, to brine abot;,t conrcikraiiOR •nd the .s"UI I~· men11 Of I be CUNdll publah~r ~r~ in dir« t COI'Itradic:don. [ jUiJ~I that mtlnmroatOfy statcmenu by Can.~di:Jni in pt)ir• tlons of rupom;ibil:ity. indlldlllll: membcn o( cllis House, Uft oetl)' COCftpou.nd our aarn:at pc-oblcml.

8y <'OIIItlltt, oo tdcvis;ioo. 01'1 F~btuty IS t.tt, CUrb. Lyndll, ill tcferri"C 10 the acniDOIR)" .tMt• Us nrfa«d ill tllli:s dcbtt.o-elld. uMonu.cd)', iD some rq101t5 at10ill lht bad•icl. and I qDOCc:

tt. IIIIWI'IN, I t"ift\. iJ ~ ~ 11r lilt ,..,..,tl! •• lu-........ 1 .. """"-· "' .. ..-am~ llt lbe: ~" ~l"'"'' ..... , -ill 1H -"''-'h' n.x tllit r.~ ~ooMtn!r r.n..., .. ~otroc .... 11 TNd•u • llcl C ll•ftlt11, t dmply clo 1101 ~~« fa (k ConJbt, lll.ll\. " ' l llf l lllfllclll\l foliUlllol&, lk I~')-.;. 1hc o;llll1tl" of nab~ !.he •IIIIIP 11111 1M • ••.-.. - · I •m IM,II IIfrMJ .. by lft)'lll!l\l dH~ ptdl'l~

He went on hHIIy;

AI ID' bol~ lt, l lwl•~ thi'Mif.lll r,;, ,ao., "",.. 11111 llllf't 1b only •t). f hfr."t 1111 « llfr '""1 lb dn fl. lr 11~)' to tfM C11~tlot IIN}', Ill~ pe:Mtt• ••t• llol~ 1b 111~ liohk. tlJIII ucl I hPt -red "'"Ill• (9lqnot.,.,_,oioo®l oo.~ ...... "' k- ....... l tll.:lt.,.,.,,. 110 tc.d .. ... """' .. .... -"""" • 'n. _.,, per- •M "' ~ 4t ~ 1b • it iJ "-T,ude .. AMI k, •ad "-tll lorrM .u.a • • • •ll loJ. lhiqut• ... Md _,,lMitf. lfl tat "-I • 1i>lo •t..• .. ~ ... .....,.., ltuCl'U u.ac. ...... , , .... .,,,..,._ .. -... tl ............. -.'" ...... ill .... .._

nil WOttdlt£ ~au jotlraalitt b'fd eo dodt u to taU liloq•ts CM lll;is IOIUct ud tbe M!Cd to~

I Wti ftf)' proud ol t btit liOI.IK CM .t.ta)' 9, 1980. tM Oft the evcn.i111 of M"y 2:0 J wu very prwd ollhe poOpk of Queboc. I •fncetdy hope that tbt kltSe or pride ot bdnJ Cantdiu prtvtib terO&t thb m~tion i:n t he woeka abced and ru-ulu in a filtOitjer 111111 better Canada whJoh b11• oontrot Clr il>i own dc.tiny.

The commiuce's rtpon befOre the llw~o i11 the rc.J\IU or aubtltanllnl 3lletatkmJ~ ~mde by rc:p~Uetltllttvcll o( b<lth .eldei of thlj ~IOU.$C and the S«~ate. There k not the t hld(Jw or~ cJo1.1bt tMt lhe report bdott us renc<:t' 11tc wbhn or the Ca..udian people. The committee members ha'IC cJJ~mJn~d a brooder pct¥pt1.1i't'\l tba.o tb3t ~tStt'U~ by Ilk tmbhiOM aM il'ltet· ctU ol 1klr 00.11 p-~ lbcir OWit tcltoM t# tkir oo-. ~thtHnan.. 1116ccd. if •e rono.-tht atib&c '"-' hrt•orr D • IQOd KKIIcr, tbca ir a .s.ia.ilat conumuu .mknd s.cc:c:ss to Ji¥c., lht OOtid. ~orth Amc:ric:l M. •bk\ wafi latmdrcd to tc:n'C ., dunqa the llcdgljQC yean ol n.a1lonhood, we lnUS1 •ClCt:pl the majority ~port of the joiol c:ommiuoe to ~owre lhtt thU tutkm U nerer apio r•ocd with • \'Oit •.'hieh wQt,~ld provide oppomtnists •'ilb an cxcuac 10 divide the natiorl .,.in.

The prOPQticd resolution for a jol11t nddt«o~ eo 1·1« Majesty the Quoc:n ttlipcctl.n& tbe CQnJ.Citution of C.nuda t:ns'ureJ fu ture Jtt•eratlons fundamental right$ and rrcociOOlll. Thill llotue i~ re:o~pc:ctfuUy asking Htr Roy11l Mnjetty to entr.ench a du&rtt:r or tlgh1!1 duly debated in thi.1 t:harnbcr lU ~ond ~~dint. in the s:pcc:jal joint COI'lllnlU« ol botlt IIOIHCS aod now aa~Jin at thb time.

TA~ CmtltitwtltNt

The cntrc:ndtmcnt or 1hlt mooc charter ol 1\g.hu aDd fretdoms w·ill huvc f•r·~ehing effects on our society. 111 thut Charter of Rishu 111wl ltr<'tdomro is a section which affu trt• aboriginnl riShlll. I 1.1m oc:rllinly proud of that pu.rt which rercrl .s:p«:in~lly to the handictlppcd. I am prwd that tbuc t\ghu ate ill'lludcd l11 the th:uta. The •pedal nctdi of the ~ndk:;.pp."\1 mt»l be llefYccl

The VUl majoril)' or the 100 Jtol.l~ and iodividullb wiK) appeared before tile •Ptebl putla~ury OOR'l.l'niute fa•ouml lk ~lhtA& ola f)tll of fishU. 'TbooP!ads ol011r GIIOo ocmcd dlb;cm ffVIft t~o~• dJt alld west ba-.e ¥Oiccd apptO'Iftl ie ., 1N1ICCNiD kfft.

I ww)d like 10 q.ot.c. rtof/1'1 a Inter (tocl'l a c:otittl..at~ t/1 mir:~tcS.lcd ~lf)9.19111 . Hutatcd: Cat Nt. FCirJU-

lt io Ill)' """' tklt 1~ o-r'""'"' fl C.Md& will ~~~ in t nlllljtlltlw>"'ll,.lftlnntr wllb lk m&lllt flllllf Citftolihll.bo. Thai il, lilt •hllle .. ,....,l.lltf", li\l'h;clint 11~ ... ~ .. ~~ tlfhl• ...WOO., ,,..,..,,, !)(,..., liito«J)·t~~ "''If«! .. nd ' "'" '"' \\'a.-.t•• wnlolllfl 1110 dl•~~nlut fll '"'- il 10 tbc 0111.1tu ~~M • \l;lllilll tuo.:lllllt <low• ~'DIIIIf .ol111t llfillta ,_:uU.-c~lu ~ lliol l h!nk ilf<lai~ t...u.d•ni:IIIA r.ult t t.lll f'O""''"' ~k"' lif '"h•t Cilnl>lb ~-be, Tt.. tlmo 11• .:.:- ~ ..,., llit r~n~. mr,Jer .... ., In lkfilita l~ "CJMd:!" In oonn•I111Wrut lcn~U. ir..:l .... lo11m111 r\tllllt fot ;.&. t.rt CIMICII~-. aM ihdf p>etnio!fnt k ~Id ud pNIId tn~ te \kllllk I'W1IIIcr - ·

"lthouall llo: o!lllloloflllo-1 oliub.'tllt ... -illftl:- IIM bwt .wwk•h.-' - P:OO'i11<ial ,_.., 11.,.. 1o0t - lit • CIIIM lb ._ •1 .. --a. Oilier ., ~ I ,. ~~~~~ 11 liM .,.._ ;. c. .. IWc d;,..._,__ S.l, llw li- hr 1 .. ~--'J-1""'1 ............ lM-'1~··--U.~uolkPt ....................... ,..,_.. .. _ n. ..... ~~e .. ,._ .. llil~

l - ....., .......... .... ... .... .,... """"""" ....... . ~~ l"' c;...r;. ............... ...,., _, ..... c.. ... .w .. fcod .. _

w-.a.a • _ , •hwl ,_ ~~~ ..... tt. """""''"" • twm.a betJJ t.ht: rift!! -111( ttf M'IJOII d .... ,..UN 1ft C..111/la) hi$10!')'.

• (JSJI))

Oth« members have b11d tltnilat rtpttsttuatloot, Mr. Spc3k:c:r.

)I is Wilb a .SCIUC O( pt'lde tlut just lt w«k t,t~ y~Cfdt.y, Moaday. FciM\I:t.ry 2J. I ••• ltooourW to laave a aentlcma~t rrom ccnt.ral Alberta drop ia u*I.MCtlnoed to • me in my otr ~tc. n.a man, a compktc tlruacr w me. c;tpR'Noed M deeply fd1 COIICfll'l tad COII"rit1iotl. a corrvittioa u a Cau.ILa• by~ wlllo b4 rou.a•• tor CaUlk i'~t Work! War 11 I! upkltcd ld'ML tk fNft fC)Okc t.bolt iU1to:ab bci!ll ..... by .omc Mc-m\xn of Parl .. mtlll a.Dd by the medi.a whidt lHfC ituendod to iMhl rear tn che hearts of Ca_u_dJ•m. o\5 a Canildiun • 'ho fOUJ}II (Of hi1 OOUftlt)', he itne.-a• w·btre bis dUt)' ley. He aakcd wht1 be (.'IOOtd do for hb Mtion. w•ha1 be CCM~td do as an Alberton to •-dtt In bringins fbwl a be:Uer unckr~ $1imding bctw'C!On Canudl1n1. Tbat is typicaL That nlln, though a &.tntnj&t:r v.'hctl ht walk«! into my ()(floe, it the Cttn2dil1l ( il'h)w and 111n proud to know. As a lrue Clmadian. I believe he will nJ.ht thOIOC who wbh to Instil fur by innlkt!OO Of simply bcc:t.t.He or pi:tWf!:il goa l!~ land llmbiti<Jn$ whkb they pi~~:~ aheid of tiK 100<1 or the nation.

78)6 COMMONS J) t!HA'rES M:m:h 3. 1981

Tire Co"stltutfon Mr. Speaker, I ~vc tr;n'tlled .aerix\~ this !l3tioo oo man)'

oocasioos. rrom tbc rue,Jcc.f sllores or Ne..-f()UndlMd tt) the Cabot tr&jls of Cape. Bttton, to Ptiooe Ed..--ard Island and New 6rvn;~w.·i<:k, 1<1 l'lb•-ori.: (lW. Q~.tt:bt:e. (rOf•l tbi:· Grt;H Lalccs bssin to the prairtes.. d trous.h tbe majes.ti.: RQC\ies to the 1'-dcirtc. I an• proud to be a pan of this great nat.ion and I am ptoi.HJ of i~ jXOpl c.

11 is in this context. Mr. Sped :«. tbal l rcque« all member$ of tbe H()U$t to pull t()t.::thcr -as C~nadbu'IS, to expbin to their oonstitu«tts tbat in spite -of our problems '~''C ,;till b;I\'C m 1..: b( tht: bdt ootuuries In tbc world: :uld in the w-ords of Gordon Faira·eu.ther. t h-e lh•~n Rights Commissioner. we will I)(W.'

ha~·e ooe of the best charten; or human ri3bts or any nation in che worJd.

In my view.the propo~d Constitution und Charter orR i-"ts and Fro!l.'doms llfo.' 11~ tie t!lat will bl1td Catllldi:lM tog.:1her in tbeir associatioo ..-·it h eacb other. oognizant nnd sec-ure in tlte knowk dg.: tl'I:H their individ.aJ r~gltts illid frtcdoms will be upheld in the Constitution of tbis Billion.

I tbercrore enjoin hon. moembets to vote (or the rePQrt ,., the j(>lnt commjucc. and tho.' resolution ( Q eobanoe tbe weiJ·beine ~r eac.h <:i th;en u11d strc.ng,hen the ~oh·e of mHI()t'lbood. T his historic debate <:an only stf'lengtbcn the boo..t of untkr;s.u nding and t/;e bond of cqualit)' but. most of all, it will fu lfil our obfigations to the f'athert~ of Conrcdt:t :Hi(ln :uld tO c~na..ta itself ss a great natioOn in the world.

Hoo. fl(K'a MaeDmuld (Kingst()n ••111 tbe hla•11h): Mr. Speaker, Jam pleased to t:tl:e part in this h~torie de~te abi..M•t my O()l:lntry bc::c:ta$C Can;eda i;~ a unique-COUJi try, a country "''ith a ~ry sp«ia1 S)'Stem of goo.·ernment, u fcxler.al system. Wt a~t. one. or ool)' 14 cou~ttits in the world v.•bcre the lot~.tsof fl'O"''er li~ nOt in C)nc "-•* In two ltvds or g,ov~"fttment.

f rl)m tl1~ d;sy •ho::n my g reat prtdetts.wr from Kings-ton. S ir John A. MaodonakJ, first (!""mcd lt.is drei•m ()( a united countty from sea to sea.. &le und his eonfreres, Sir Georse e.iwne Carcier, S ir Cb11rle$ iuppt:r, Gecwgc Bruv,•n and the 12tany 01hers.. all instineti,•cly knew tblll t hili Cl(Jt;mm·. dive~ at it t~ in ~o.'ll. ~,gions.. t eSI)UfOCS and culture:>, would have to hii\'C u special s ~·stem q( SQ\'en)ment. T1u~y knew th:!t t hey would need something better slljtcd to tbis oomplex covotry tbnn the unlt;ny sys tem of g~rf'IR)ent which operated in Britain from whic:h 1bcy bad nlreucly OOrrowed <)ur p:ufi2tnt (l· cuy procedures. A unitary S)'Sttm su<:b as that one, even tbw&Jl it w;~$ d~"2r t<) Slr John A'$ he:ut, wou.ld not, ht knew • be capabfe of rclloctin& se.ru;ith·ely tlle differing vtc..-'$. Md iniJe;.-d the diffe ring dri '4'5.. or sooh a huge-. sptawling. tumult· uous a.nd p<nentin.lb· expiOiii"e C(lt~ntry. Clenada ..-'ltll :t.nd is too unptcdk:table a11d too unwi.eldy a wumry t-o be beld io cl:leek by <)ne . .slnsle. ~in or 8()\'ttl'uncnt designed to ooeroe it into uniformit)-. Ca nada ne,·er hn4 ~n, is n(l( n<)..-·, and never will be. dtst kind of counti)'.

11 was recognition of the Jeashed op potenllal, of tbe grc:ct· 11ess whiel1 l.ay in $tOre f~ i t.. that 100 the fath.ers of Confed· eration into the Pl)tlllld and axnplen:~cnliny patlu of natioo building and pro\'ince. bujkling. 11 was not dooree Cil~ily n.nd it

was 11<M done lighll)'• 1t took. t he d lvi:«m t<tS.'I of the united C<uUid:·• period. fr«l'l 1841 to 1864, with its f(K'Ctd t~n i(~>nnity and iLS .wbscquc.~•t ~i>l.l;tp~t:. to m~k~ tlw:. peopk or Upper a.nd u-r.·er Cae~llda appreciu.te th,u they h.'ld to bi:. ptrt or a S)'!ttm where: the di~rsit)' and suen3tbs- of tbe one prQ\•inct h~d tO be apprec-iated nnd rC1qX(:tcd by the other.

And so. ""'hen t he new fod<:fllti<Jn ..-·aJ< coneclved. il ""'11:1 in the knQ..- ledge that it would pt'oduce two l<l\·els qf go .. -ernm·cnt, one v.•hieh woold: enOC:I\Ir:l£1: Clln:ldl:uiS to look to the national govtmn)\l:tll as the expr~ioo or their l.'(lmm<)n interests. :~nd tbe otb<:r t1> the 1"0\'ii!Cial governments as tile e>:pre!SSion qf ll~if particular interests. llut d1e..;;c "''tft not t<J be mutually c~<:.lu~ive . Thc.it intt f'UClion was the basis Q( (lu: fedt:nl sysh:m.

Th«e were time; in thl}.'e ctly yc.!r.s when the ce:ntml g<t~tmrt)elll Y.'llS tempted to ucacJ beavi~y ()n t!u: p((•vi nee~. to lol:c u.l}v;,u:-t:'l£t: of tbeir V'UIOetllbility llS the)' we.nt ''-W'•Bh a difficult period or adjvstment, whk:b saw tbcm relinquish their previOU$ N)k: ns liC:nli·lndepeOOent entities. t-o bc:<:Qinc full)' i nteg~ated into t.he lll.fEer uni()n.

Th;.t willing.w:ss to be part of the larger 1mi.:~n did f'l<lt (;(lme abov~ erusUy. In rl'ct. tve•i as late a.s 1886, N()Vu Scotia, tbroug,h a 'I'Ote of its lcgisl;ttur-c ('('Wt(irencd in a gi:ocml ele1> ti<~n, ..-'(li still ttying to secede rrom 1hi11 ''OOthcration Sd1o:eu.:.". as it WM 4cri::;h'dy reftr1~ toO.

Nb.. the tics to ooofoekr;njon wc.re- n(lt w<tveu ~emi~:ht. They 1>'Crc devdopcd over time by ""ise lctisi;HQI'$, buch in Ottawa and in th~ pr(lvinci111 illlr1Umet~t:l • ..-·ho kne•• intuitively cltat tbe ycat experiment. so confidently l;auudtcd by M;ac-. dorndl! and hill :.soodatts in 1867, oould on.ly s tay a~t if they all pu.lled in tbe same dirc:ttil)n.

Yes, then: were argumet11s: yc:s. t here were sti\Kigly held oonOi.;:tin& op(ni(IR$; l1ut O'l'tr a nd over again, arJutncnt and COC'Inict gsve way to the rcasooed uppr<,;.u:t• I)( ~eking a solution by consms:u:s.. Macdooald \:new thaL He did 004 aiW:!.)'S Uke to treat "'itb t.h-ose pe.' iY ttuis:.noc-s. the ptO\'i nca~, but u elll I•« dJ<I. L:luritr knev.· it, a ltbwgh :11 t imt$ hit ht:'er1 bled fot the }tun tl1:tt hi! owo elative provin~:e ..-·as Cllll$ed. Botdeo kne..-· it, &enneu knew it, 3nd e1·t •i Ma<"ken;ok. King. knew it. 3lthough his battles witb Hepburn Ollnd l)uptes.'lis "''Cre lcgendury. St. J.;!;urcnt h00011ted that 1raditio1t. u did Oiefen· OOl:er. Pl::ars-oo developed it t() u fi n.: :lrt--ro-opctative federal· ism. be c,Ut'd h. Clark made it a cornclltClnc <.~I' his got•ernmcnt. ... ~

C<loOJl<nth•e federalism is nol tbe e;a$ies.t pe.~"i:agi: in the worW eo sd t. 11 is s<ltnet hin.g intangible aJtd dush«; it is -a ooocept. Coneept.s nrc much nwre diOkuh to realize and arti<:ulau: and to oonvey e-o peQpk 1h:1n tQid., b:e.rd f:art'l (le ~ faoe in the -,.•ind()w. But the cold. hard. fact or this CI)Unlry u tltat witbool eo.q.p«uth·e fcde-r.tlilleli and Without the f';\'U Qrdcl'$ of B-0\'ettlmcnt workinp, tote11Kr r ... r t he bt:uerment o( the whole. the country will ~in to disintegrate. The fate in tlte windo-..·. wt.ether to o•n·3dw:s ~ to the res-t of the. worid. mu~t be d1l.l face. of unit)'. OtherwUe-, the ft.l:.u .. 'l -,.•illllplinta,

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a-.et and bltdty dislon tbc ~~e of •hat (~Me t.~~;U.ed : unil)'. CQ-Openuion and consensus..

Thae •re I he h;tllmarks of oor federal t)•atelll, The)' bl!'~ bl:cll l!tumpcd on it )'tar after year since 18(17, We hove faocd ,wmo utNiflely dlffii.'Uit a nd lense periods durlnJ thatlc 114 ,c.ars. but "'·o hh\'C u.lwu1s "'~tbcc«< tbcm bcellu!'~ <I( the uhimace willinancu oi $0(1)t:tirncs fC!IlrttinJI)' lnlrln&iJcnt poUtklant eo ect •sld~ their more IW«J•Iy defined and based intcrutt.. •hcth« oc:rurally oticnttd or ptOtlndlllly oticntcd. lOt' che arauer rood ol tht Q)u.nlry ts 11 whole.

n.c.c polidcb-.. wlw:tbcr Cuadila pti.Mc mlllbtcN or ptO¥SftdtJ premiers.. blew it ..as hCICit!I.Nry m .... r.cc of ckadklct ud cfiorisloa lD draw IMct aad .scsr~ dte~ oacc "" to t~ qoea:ioll: How cu ~ t'C'Min dtc c::norial kl .. ce Cilelltill to .aay fcden.J S)-.&cm. a bllance whidt RIOOJIII~ the r~ced for boch Sli'OJII pro¥iMtt and a ltton& n~tiona l communit)''! That wu tbc quCIItioo on , ,bleb thty slood boct dme and again •·ba~ il • ·•s nOCCMIII)' to rcaddrtu. f 'fnmslntl.on)

Mr. Spaakct, perhaps it "'·•~ e;•~Y tu ride rouJ hllhod over the. pr'tWinCCII • ocntury ago. They had new f'H"'o·ct.t whk:h had )'d to bl: lcucd and wbich at the dn~e wuc nowl1ue near n.s Important ~~~ those a~n<:d to the ce:Mr:al ~rnmcnl. Out li.mCII ha~c ttuanwJ aod fc:dcraJiml. which is a tl"(tWinJ. liw ly aDd df'l.ttn.lc S)-s•c:m of JO'Uflmen(. ta:u cvolvcll.

We haw btta wittle$lAna tbal pbcOOflC:noot'l ill Ca.!Wb, pankvitrl)' liatt World W:n 1.1. N-vc •de 11M: ocb« ladtisui• lual Mtba. we 111ft" liftd tkrOuaJI 1110CMI tc:"0111iofl, • llida IMouJ)M -..ift C'lba.fttc:$ ia GUT cdiiQit- St"C.. iJI CMU tlcahll ~ ud i• cu attitude tow..rdf the IKICdy £-.len~vt procrams ~ enablls:bod 10 fMd the socill

u.prctttlon• born out of tbt last half ttruuu')' A ad acnmlly ·~~l. lnc. owins ·,o Ollr Conshtution, re&pon~ibility for t lun.e prOJI'tMU bclOI\8' to che pcoviiiQCs. Beau9C Jorno prl)~·in.ce,: h• d to fate ths l te!lpot~:.iibi1it!' which wu not tl'tciri before, tho OOIMOO o( (eder.slism w:ts altered. Ln u.ddition l llelr rtjOUrots roccnllnl ¥fit not then fully a<:kfl~Tt'o·lcdgod, IM it bas since b(e()mc h power lever in the hand:! of the ~ffl'l'incn. Ndthet wd11l proarams nor f'CS(Iurtc:s pro~t.J held lltah 11riarity durina the lint SO, 60 or 70 years of the hitloty of our 11011ioR, but once they wtte est.ablishtd tbcy ..-rmacllcftcd elk rdc or l:k PfOVIIICCS ill tbt l«knl eq;u O.:.. IE.,u•l

"T\e or,_.tal p'CnliDCIIt, (er tb put. ID(Jifcd irMo llleW arcu alld opeocd •P •ltok ocw depa.ttftiC:ftU ol p•mune~~t ill Oua• • OREE.. Cornouut.icatto.u •od \htat11 Aff1in.. WitJI tltit •hin h "'·as ifteorit.ablc dut there wordd be Jltlltt Oltl0k1 bclwec.n the two la~b of J.~tt~Ur~Cnt. More l han net il ,..,., rmporlu t to work out OOI'Inku aM poce:rulal di.-pula bet"'«n the t>~oO levels ol tc.tWrnment by discuu ion, undcflllltndln£., tolcrttnct tlnd hard•'4'1.>n conKnscu.s.. MOfe than C\'tr lt b«tune lncre;ulnJI)' Important that the c:cntn1l ~rnn1cn1 not be i!ll)lllted In hs chinking f rgm the vuiw& retk>n~ ot the QOutll ry. Mote than over it bcQmc inaeasi.n,Jy lntpott:lnl thnt there be

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eon.tlnuou.! ~nal rnp1u tnto cM ocntr•1 ins:ti11.11MK111 and the eentul dcci!li""•:muk<.rt t10 thnt thcir decisioos •wJd rcnect ~dcquatd)· the di\·cne nutt.Ull of t his oountry.

1t ,..as obviou' hl IIII.Yt>•~e 111'110 V.'lill givinB •he mnll~;r e.ny :~«iws actenlioo. who wtu at nil .«:Mili\'t 10 the w:ry real regiooal difTerwoc.t ill tlllt 0011111ry, d1:tt Ottllwil. would h1n·e tu develop new rni!Ch:lniun;c to ~.,.;le the$!: emerging dirfer ~ enecs. Othcr••ilJc. tbc"' would k tnereasin.g, oooJlict betwct:ll Ottawa aAd tbc: pr<WirM:ci and bctw(c-n rqjon :~.nd rqion Ill ladividu:al prO\'ii!CU str•U)cd to bfin.a tiKir p!lrticuLu inter· em 111:t the fore. 1t w to be tilt responsibility of lhe ctMr:.l ~ to t~lc llllo.ic int.erests: a.S thoK ditfn"MOCS ID nuh pc:as;iWc- ttlc IDQM wlitkk wt~~~ld dwtrK1 pote«tially ci'risttc cemion iMO • poMtM crutiw force fer tht oa.tion ~ • --"The Pepin--Rot.rt• tepoo hal'flmercd bome this vdion Glthcl OOUAtl)'. E\'ttl the fcdetal·pr~·inca&l rdalions otf'tee: in 0U•wa s J'Iptilred •mcn:.ble tO tblll COI)Ut:pt. A few years a&o that particu.lar ofT' tee. under the. JUidan« of G«don Robettson, 11 !itenM:" mllncl,uin niMI kln.e·dme nd,•isu 10 prime minislel'll. ncmcd 10 ~ilQ ihc n« tlishy for paralle-l and oomph.':lntn· «ary nation-buitdiJIS: and provinoe-·bulldlng. The· nffit tO main• cain the balo1nte !I() c~cmlul to o11r federal S)lCc:.m $CCimed lU be ""d~QQCI in Oltnw~• · Tbc~ wu no talk. then or unilateml a'tioo by one pa.rtn« in the (cdetatbr lf.80llltll ::.ootMr. I~ in tk eoncin"o~l ddlewiolll!l o( lbc pa.st 20 )'Cal'll on tbc Con.lltitutiooft., no JO"'C'fMKl'lt in Otu.wa e-.u su,ucstc:d th::tt pauii.Oo. or llle impglilio• olaa ameadi~ formula ONld or sholdd be ea.rrird .. , ~Lt~lty.

We a;r~Qt aM oundw'ef •hat lUtes the fcdetal ~-nmct~l of 1911 able to do toMCthill&•lll.eh tbc tcdcraiJO"'Cflltneab Gl 1964, 1971. 197). 1'18 11Mi 1919_.11 those years •bee Lbc Constittuioo waJ dcbrttod- fdt they cooJd bM do? Th~&hout all I~ years the CCl'IIFIII lt'nternmenl fdt it bad 8 motal oNi.sation. one 1\l\ICh nKWc impct!'tallt to tbe >~oCJI·bdng of l h~ oou.nuy than any namJY<' lephilic flppt~l:1cb, 10 .,cl in CUn«:ft with its pJ~rlnen in t l~e (edeml t)'lltem. That was a ootnmh· me.nt to the C~tood iun "'")' and an e-xpres-sion of beUd in 114 ye3r'S o( s.ftaffij ptOjfCliS. 1111 O( whiclt t he l..ibcul jW'·er11menl is no:~w willing ty .JCUi~M'I Oif joo.pnrdize b)' narrowing iu ' 'iew or wbat makCJ tllis cwntry i lleb 8 dis:ti~ti\•e entity. We 3re bang pujhcd to'!Qtd • tuait&t )' a)"U<m. • uniLateral approa.cla ,..hj,el!l ..,.._Id ianort- lfle portCIIIilfl Ot rqioas.. wbicb WOtdd ,pbju,pte prO'iiKD to • kMct rok aad. icdccd..lrxk lllltJn ••lo a. cu:tc.'"oS.,...1cm whKtl •oc;ld tu:m iu t.ct oo , 1la1 ·~ tw.n .su«toeded •• ba:lami-al• 118 )'C'&tJ of C"'Mq federalisal.

Bu.t thc:sc. Sir, &eem •o be I he Prl.me Micister's &oalll. He stated tbem eo be Jlllltllllo,. utul.aterally; An ~memtin& for· mub- unilatc:tuiJy; 11nd • chnner ol rights- unilaterally. Yet pu.triation could • nd •II(IOJld be tCClOtnplishe:d 'A'itb the endOr.fc:• ment of aJJ lbe pawu:nt In the (eder:rliOfl. An a mendinJ fonnultl cwld be worked oul wilb the provinQCS., as it w:u worked 0111 tn principle lail i"Uifltncr, if OO!)' the Prin.e Mini~ · tct (Mt. Trudenu) • ·Otilll ldien bit rigidity. I venture tu AY

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!hut 11 chatttr (1/ rizhu ootdd be turi.,"'d Ill here In CaRada if PJIK"'"e •nd pei"$\IUivetle:J$ ..,~Id only rct~b~ ltnJIUnct: tuld hit~·haOOedncss.

So•e bi)tt, T\tr.•Wnt Hdr, hell.r!

Mls.!i 1\tad)ould: This country has boc:n fOttun11tc in that in times ol &re.Jtesl dj(fic;ully 01.1r l~din& rolitl<:iatll have ai~'8Yi been •dnina to wall; the extra mile 10 eMurc thlt fcdcrali5m "'«k:t- 111 ol' Wr k11ding pOiilidaM in tbt l)a~l but 001.. it 1ppc.ar~;. lbc prQCitt Prime Mi11i:Mc:r. To the cklrimcllt ol the CIOulr)' be ..WSU. uzx- U)i.,. "'l'lUs tiftte. •c will do rt tn:Y ... ,. ... lklt .. .,. w.y 0 fqNgtU.nll 10 64 ~ C!tM o( tk ptopk of C&.llllb. to all ol tbe pa.nics ia tk pi'Orin« ol Q.cb« I ad lo

co.Pt olt!w tee pRWinecs ol ~nacb.. Wl!;~ 8co ue ._ ~ y «JCCC. tile: federal o:u•re of thU co111uy.

llow Iona • ouW we ba~ IMtcd tt urlict tlll.1hpo.t~u i.n 04u·

COIUUry'a hi.ltOfy iC tbe tlatioo'&lc:aders in thole timcJ llad ~o liS lnttlt li.\I~Cnt und 1"-' locked into ll pe-n(lf'IUI obieiaion as tbe pmcnt Prime Minister? More t batlanythlnJ h iJ tl•e thn .. ti.O

w r (.:d~: tal S)'Stcrn of gO\'trnment il'lhtrtnt lrl cvcry as-pctt or thcSCI Wnlltilutionpl proJ!OSAb wbic:b lcucl.t n•c to rtj~:et them so ttrcnuotul)'• What the aovcromcm is proi)Oiilna I) to uliC itli fl(l•et 10 C!'lik< rund.a!UentiiJ d uln&e$, UftlllllCrtlly, to the Vel)'

llr~ture of tlti5 CXK~ntry. oot jut;l on ctli• one OCCI~>iOtl but on an <H'Itoina basis.

I refer. or OO.t'Sit. to tbc powet or the unillw-al rd'erendum -.ittl ··idl lht ~mall now S«b to ar .. ibldr. or alllk Jf)Cidr.cs "' these pn:JpC:IIN.b tU n tlllc _. ....._.~ tk ..a lajwrtOUJ to OIU S)$(Ck ltlw b«a ~b)'~ tarallll ud 1~ JNbfic ab'\e. by lhwc &Jiti"C~ abollt ow (rccdoms and by C'.\p:fU i.a tJilc fteW ol COI"'!ltita.tKI!Nil.lw. The rcfcttfldlilm ~llw b«:n O'itldlltd by O«don Rol:lcruon. whom I tncnlflJMd eo~ rlier. He ~tc or h aJ. 1nd I q~~CKe. ''A <bJIIcroiiS way to U)' to find • remedy to • probkm'·. 11 ft a rne;a~>ctrc, he .said. thllt coukl £ive Oc.'ih ond tul»tJJIQC to Cllllt·•·c•• diviJSlooll.

11 h riOt, howC\·er. a I)(:Y,' proposal but an obJC~~.:tlve tbnt t he Prime Minister tla.s !Qrlg .chnillhed. T he auentpt hat been mode in the put to insinuate the referendum Into our political ptOOCII. Tbcn. as ..ow, the penunent Jlfeltz~dcd il wo11l<l amount I<J ..,.,, thin wh~t i5 rq,lly ptOp(Jlkld. The mulp~tlltion •blch • ·a• attcmJI(ed 5C"CtaJ yearsa.a.o tbould IKil be lartun:d by a11y mtm.ber ot this HWk tod:ly. la faa. I rcmiad ~ tnm~bcn that 1n 1911 tk J.OWiallhCIII i•ttodtiC!Cd Bill C-9. aa en mpc«i., public tcfere..tU» i8 c.,.. on ~watiom ftlaUIII 110 the Co.stk•lion. ol Caa1da.. At that time we •ere 1okl tb.t Bill C-9 •ould be •* Gnly to cowucr the ~ rcrcrcfldum •bttl h catM:. W~ wtte ata•tcd tlwlt it wo.lcf be used OMe Otl1)'. lt wa:J ~id the p«nnteiU nrocdcd the aamc ri.tht 10 com;ult che people of Quebec IJ dill t hOM lldvocatlrtg: Jtjlll;radon. That is what was said but tbal 1, not wh01t wa& lnttndtd, In 11:411ity, ••hilt wiU tUt'mJICed tbtn, at il IIUC'Silptod tlll'ot', "''18 the inte,.ration of tbc rc(erc.ndum pr~ll into th~ fund~mtl'ltal polltlcaJ rabric ol the tla!loo. 01 the QJI~n&e o( 011r tried ""d tq ted polilkul and judkbl lnrotltutkms and J'lt«:cclle:S,

h is «tli&ltteni.na to tool Nck ...,._ aM S« me deY~s route that the U bt:rlt.l &olvetnnknt roU<I""'cd then. Fw i.n. 19'78. at the TCI)' lime tM! Pn mc Mln!IM~eJ • -as m«tint. with IM prli'YinQul ptCt'lliets to tc'fic:w the: •·hole m:.w: r or the Com.tillll ion, the: gU\-crnment, unllatcrtlly, int rOOuocd t l1e n:ren:ndum bill. At the very time w hem there Will ~II PJM."cd bilaterAl dlwussku' on the ctuj~ &pcccrum or flliki"AIIind llo!O'I>'inci:d powen;, Dill C9 • ·as p~. • hicb would hu~·e s in::n the ft:dtraJ ~0\>e:nuncn• the po• -er 10 ~'frrilk 1ny rcsgli of the (oder.d•·prO\•ind• l d~ioas then ufldcr •• y.

Tlx IIOI'»C ea• be fOfahu a liCfiiC of Jifo ..... In the.! ddutc oo Bill C-9, .-ben I poi•tod out tbt t.Wt:al that tbc rcfcreachln. pclllll'd 10 01tt 'Y"Itllll ol rc.Smlll$111. lht pte:Wt1t Minhau d Eactc1· Miael •1114 ftoo.f'QO (Mr. I..Uoll6e) t.Jbdlc:d •Ut I laad eo say as ""l'lonK~tK'" We ..-en told ro tskc ~~ cc:wer .. ment'.J word th~at 11 wouW 1t01 abvst tbcu ocw 1111d widC" raaJina po.t'Cn h WJli ud:l.11.1 to a<lquite.. tlut .. -e sho.kl ~a:cpt bh.,dly what tht)' propo!!Cd

H is very intcrQIUnl to Mte that wltik tbc P\'ogrc~slve

Ct>ru<!'r\'liti \·t Puny s uon,KJy opp(ISc:d thiS &111b b)' the l 'rudcllu govetnmrcrt or new po .... er!l. 4hc Nc:w l)c:moa :.tic: l''2rt y lc:a.tltr mar<:bed joyoi.Uiy alc>IIJI with 1/1e fiOtJt rnment. l ndeod, I he !loo rncmbet ror Oibaw1 (Mr. Orooilbcnt) sa.· 110thin~ wron~ t hen wilb dw: u.nlbtertl uac ot the rc(ocrCJtda po.,.,-.::r by un.c le\'fl ~~~ fPYeromc:nt apiJI" another. u he does not &c:e an)'tbinc "''toi\J witb it today. The Prime Mi.nt).kr at lhll.t linK"> •·a~ tnore C:IJidicJ 1ban -..ne e/•k .WnU.cn u to d'C USCf he wouki~R~b of a rekrcftdum 11 wu NI. IllS uueotioll: tbt tile IICW ~ .t.hotild be I'C:kfWd .old)' to eo-Ilia- tbc f'Q rd'ttudun. la a prca. CIOni'eroc:c ;,. October of I 971 lbe Prime ~h•ister Atd tU:

he: .... Cill ' ,.~M) fiiJIIIIII ... .,. • • ._. ... • ........, • lii~~t ~tt jlolt$$;.. Ill tlw C•"·-··-. .. Np.iullllaolll Ill ... O...WII'Ik tkJ ...., luM t.tdil • ll. !lie .... ol l \.fCI(II"I'7 lol NINO. • llikd. UtllcJ Cllllld ...... IOdt • iUI'Iny\l!inJ U. kl•«•

I tc:pc:atcd itth.<en Pltd I tc:pt:.t ~- ''anything in bet.,.·ecn··. lb d the ~n'UtiC:nl StiOI<t:eded at th11l time Ill gettl11g tl\at rererc:lldum billll~ro11jlh, there w~ul<l be no arc:a or rc:dc: rul or provincial j utisd ic:tlon tQilll)' \l" w>'hlch a rderend11m, inittntod unilaterally by tht c:enti'QI tCA·erlliment, !'tamed un.ifllterally b> tbc: <:mini toYcrnnknl and wnduc:tcd ~nibterally tl)' dtc «:rnraJ &OVC:rllmC'nt. oo.ld not lie rued. S..cb &COfle is ~~CM mad)· dangerous, it it aefrifyi~ . Yet here·~ au .. bJd: .ance apia .-ith ....,..,u1 tH ,... p-opos.a.L

CMditioM ha~ 1101 clufttCd Mt.11U.tCU!dy in tbe pas~ t-o or tbra- )TaN. ThC' pGiiW'bia,ty q( a~ o/thc rda'dllllua proposal temaim the"* u •bd Pru.cipal Watts ol Q~Kd;'t Vfriotcr$itJ, appesrillit before tM Sc.andrq Comrin« at J& tioc: aod Lq11l Aff1irt. on. 8iD C·9 • .)tated;

'Wlolil 4; ~QIII 11..._. ._..,. ... - 41r lk FIICU! !lilt b tiott 111c ,_.,

"''~'- ~ lk bii~Cfl If h • - '""''" o.,...qlol-thc: •et) Col:l IMI 111(1! ~ tcn<.-.1 bill .~, ilwlf. """'1111 • jll,'(illllll•l 1..-.f'lt'J in di-i•JM •ill1 !l!r pnw.-s 'Nil! (101111!C~I MIII N(lllllllo-

T bc YC:ry u tuerN:e or tlto referendum p<).,.,'t:t in the-htuwb I)( the centr.IIO'W'CI'llml:!ll lnvokC'll the 5pectre of uniluterAI a.;tiou oo at1 ongoios bn1i•· h ~lgnlncil t.he end of <::o-opcralive rc:dual i51n; •nd Quite po!l8ibly, SOme day. the C:hd O( OUI

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indi..,idual frccdocn$ as •>ell. f'<K witb tbe dcvioc of the referenda. we ~n ne-rer be a&Surcd tba.t even thosle right~ specified in the imperfect ptopoe;ab for • cMrta Qf rigbll wUI n:~all)' be procecteci

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Wt can neva ii.OO"'t' when an occas.iott s:ucb as: the:. Oc:tobtr ~ri~i:; of 1970 may be used b)' an unscrupul(lu$ &QYe:rnment IQ make p«LMOC'!It d 1anges tQ the Constitution and to oor lives. There i~ nQthing definith·e about the uSlC tbc: fl-detaJ ~mI.UCOI •wld n1ake of a ref~rct1dum, nor u.re there :wy <.:bet:b and balanct':i to ~eoti.1l ~OO:;C-3.

We: have ~ dira:t pra:en<knt upon which we cao judae tbe:;e pr(,)JIO.Sals, But we do have tbt txpc.ri.ence Qf t~ power gmb which the Ube.-al gqyernmc:ot a«empc.cd with iu tefc:tc:ndum bilL I dM! nQI u"sl the government's moti~c:s thetl, atld I ocrto.inl)' do not trust them nQY.·; n<)l" 11m I IL$:PUIIJed in tbat mistrust by tbc-prof)(XSuh; QOnta.inc:d in tbecbartcr of rights.

The most dttaik-d p~.~.rt W this rcsoluljon. as we ba'-e :;ecn, aD<I the Qne 1(1 which mOS-t attendoo bas been given 0\'tr the past few months. is the ck!lrt« of righ~. l:;trQII&IY enOOt.s.c the tl'ltrC11chmMt or s Chll rtC"r Qf ri&bts in !he Canadian Coo~titu· ti(ll'l-

An lion.. Me•Mr. Bravo.

Miu Mad)ooa)d: -btu (lne th;~~t i:; tborovgltly dc:'l-cloped in Canada. debated in Cn1101da 1100 po.SISCCI into Jaw in Canada.

So•t lloo. Mt•hal: Hqr. bear!

MJss Mad)o ... Jd: I agr« whokbeartcdJy •·i th those who say tb:.&t ~ cJtartet of rights cannot be ba.rtercd against this <>r that regional of sptclr.c inh~re:st; b111 I ug.ree C"''tO more with th<lse wl;o suy that it is :;ueh an t-Xttaordinary act or f11ith in o11r QOOnlry that it cannot come into beill! ;1s tbe b)'product or strife aDd dissension .and bitterness.

Mt'. Wllso•: Tho me;ans do 1104 justify tbe end.

Miss Mad>ouJd: Tlte entrci)Ctunent or a c-harter or right.s sbQt~ld be: .a eat.~SC fot et-lcbtat ion in one's own country, not .a bo..e: of contention becau5e it b.1$ been CM.Cicxi into law by tbe a~·trnment (l( another c;o~~;ntry.

r an. potrSuildcd oo at least two counts that we nc:td an eotrenchod cba"er to prococt our rl&bts and fr«doou. Firli't, I shall nt'l-er fotget the uaumatfc :;hod; I hud as u irtdi,•idua1 when. in October (I( 1970. tbc tbeo and now Prime Minjs:tct sus:pcOOed the frecdom:s ol Catladian.i by tht· imp(li;ition or the War Mtas:-ures Aet. In the hoeul aDd acrimony aDd superclluged llt~phere or that pe.-iod. it may h.we bee!l the poJiticu.lly popular and t:xpedi~nt lhins to do, but it .,.·as the wrong thitlt to do. A perwn's riabts a nd frecdoms are so bd~ic a nd $0 prel'iUU$ 'hat no government leader should nrbitr;uity haY<: the rlg.ht to wspend Uttr:n.

The S«ond reason I s.uppott the entrct~chment Qf a charter is that I bc:liC"''t lt w<~ukl Qf(er some dearee or :;cauit)', or ceru inty, in ;a society when: ehan,ge and untt1tainty and

TM CCHI;flituliQff

di:~rupdon. \lire im:n:;ulngly ttu:. norm. That is \'try important. Qgt .are 'JIIo'C prt$el'llcd wilh ~uch a Charter? The MicliStC:f or Justi<:t (Mr. ChrCtieo) admits it is far from being a ~feet insttu1nen:L Why should we, when we come to cntrC".nehi rl8 :10mctbing :tll important lU ll <:h:lrt.er-<>fri! htll, bt s:atisfiM with a bnJrway measure?

In its irtitial appcarantt it was so grotesque as to utlite ;1ll human riahl$ nctil•isu; llgiljnst it. How is it lbe ~emmc.nt was so lacking in wisdom, ill judgment, thllt h wa,s; able 10 put forward: svch a mean-spirited, nepti\~ doc:uQ'Icnt'! I admil qui1c rcadil)' tb:tt h was impr~ during the committee he.aringil a~ 11 rouh I)( tbe rtprdle11111tiOnil ()(a limited number or Ca.nadtans. ll c:ou.ld hardl)' MY<: b«rt made wone.. Out eTcn yet, it is far fro1n adequate: .• as the outcry from tilt 1.000 'll'()fflcn wbQ ullendcd 41 (;Qnfcrcn.:e (In the Ct>nstitution c;arl ier this month made clear. Tbey, and othCJ$, ask: "Why is it there b no n~otlot'l in the \'C:ty f11st claus.:. or the charter that all ri&hiS s:uarunteed herein~~J\c:r $hou1d ;apply c:qu:lll)' to men u.nd .,.·omen?"'

So•e lwlll. Mt•krs: Htnr. be3r!

Miu Mad)ou)d.: That was dC:tllttldcd by tvery wOnlen":; £fOIIP which appc:orod befo~ the ClOmmiuce, aod by tbt tbousands. wbo did not ba..,e that opportunity. That is tbt wording In the uni1-1:r~l Oi:ellmatiou (I( Hurfl:tn Righu, to wbicb we are a sig.n3tory. )~t tilt 80\"ern.me~~t cllose to ignou it. it is .11 $;td nt0cctkltl ~~ the ~'ti'IIIUC:tlt'S<:Onctpt or equaJity t h.111 I''<.KIKO sbQIIId b:m.: to ll."rtl.le tbot thdr ri{!.hl.$ must be pcotctlcd in this spc:cifte a"iCie or tbat speeif~ article. as if SoOt'nc:bow we. stt not eq\lsl in aJI .asptC!li to all ()(her Cunad~ms.

The Ministc:t or Justice has stated th3t the chatter bas bten irnPfO"Cd to I:KOh:ct the ritht~ of wom~cl. The· rigl1tll of •<Omen will be fully realized wbcn one dot$ nol hal't to aTJIIC for protection btn C30 point to a sua.ightforward. Lultqui"ocal )ltatcenent qf porpcr.se t.b.:tt ull right~ arr ly equ;~lly to roen11nd women.

.so.t bel•. Mt•~rs: Heat. h~t!

Miu f\tad)ooakh No dlfftrc1Kt. No argument. No ClOmpromi:sc.

Mr. Wihoo: Where was Ma~uiaao • ·beo we DCcdod him?

Miss ~fa('Do..akl: But this charter lacks S~Kb a statement. I ask the min~~tcr, •·by i.s it not tbcre?

Tbere arc other .shortcomings to this ebaner. I have no assu1'3!ltt fro1n readlttg it that tl1e dhetiminatiotl wll.ich pre:i• cntly c"i$t$ ;~,g:t inft lndi:ln l''<)men who m.;~rry l'tW\~tahl,, men and tbctcby i()C;C tbeit Indian $tatus "''OI.dd be eortc:cted un<ler this clk'!tt.«. fst flom iL The propoud entrenc:.bmeT~t (I( cerwin ~•i~e riabt$ mltbt m:tlo:c it pcf!>S;ible •o ~trgue- tb.1t this long4tandina tradition or ucatiog Indian ~''00.100 as SCQOfld· class cith~etls is sho cntrc:tlcltcd. Why does dte go~rttment nQt immo:Hu.1d y elimil\Oite tbu.t ~sibility by t-11king the Mmpk

CO.\-IMONS OEBA TES Mardl. 1911

Tilt: Cott#irlltiolt

totel), tltollllll kaislatioa. oi m'1'10Yi:n1 ~- 12( 1 )(b) rfOO'I cllc lncllan Act!

Th.at propuslll bll$. t k:now, the $upport or ult women nlcmbcN O( tlte HwK or Commoo~ and tbc Sc:nntc, und I •m surt that lr the aovtr•unent would Olll)' be- oour11tco~ enooah eo introdu.oc a bill to aboliib Sec:tkwl 12( I )(b) of the IOOia:n Act, 1t .-ould have the 4\lpport of tbe , real m.a,jority of p:ntlati'Kn· tni1n1. That s{f\&le step wooJd be the be.u P*fblc indkation ol the ~rn.mcnt't QOmmitment «» b"m•n rilht...

I ha~ Kkl Ulat I JUpport Ote <'fltreiM!IIIQMt o( a c!Wirut of riJbu i.. tile Cclnstit•tioa. I:Nt tbis pattiaJW <'W1u • bd111 hdd lilol;ta.ac: to a dimM proocst Wt eo.td do impanbk ~ 10 OUI' (IQIIlAUy,

l Ita~ ba.nl1o0111e bo8. trJembas.., tiK: UbcnJ tick arpc ,,.l:nllt tt.lt prop:lUI. I •ould say to ~m tlwit Ute Libenl.l J(l't'nnmct,~C b;u rc{lt$Cd to bc'i111 U. tbt l lnd or ptOpQ!Ill (or )can. and tJiat wu iOmetbing wh.kb wa1 dna(\cd by tlk Cl;~rk

IO'Icrnmcnt. I hl)ped lhey would have ll«cptcd it. but l tun •fraid, tivcn the rca~tionl oow tee.. they " 'OOid •till hoa.-c WICed ll;$11huot it. Aak tbc people or this coonn)' v.·btthct or not lndll1n worncn 11hould be equal to any othct oitb:cn or thiJ w untry. nnd •he)' willtuuwer. wyC$ ...

S.•r IMNt.. Mentber'$: Hea.r. hear!

Mbit A.t.c.OouW: Wby • ·ill tile cow:mii'IC:II• DOC IICfl&l'lolCtlw: t•o tncl kt us Jd on " ;da ptm,Jadi~ 01~ Cua4iaas o1 cbc: IIIICtitt ol a.n catrux:W daa.ner.tmcd al lrlm: hi CuH:a.. by aad for Cacacfia.M.....-c pi •ltidl I t.Wnk cu be ralmd l11 dtis C:OU!Ilty? But 1~1 pi caa 011ty be ruilcd if tk pct"nmct~t rcaootiCCS iu al!lil:uctal ai)CifOIKII &o ~~ .. tiooal rtJorm t.nd. lltu:mpu on.oe mot~ tlle ffliktaU.t route we haft: ttod 10 of'tm in tbe pa$t.

A be lAnced ')'Item of fcd«nli4.m i$ ~~ nocc~ruy to Canada's tui'VIvaloa the very air v.•e breathe. Today that J.Yttcm i$ btin.g t ubj«:ltd 10 • thr"·prong~ W lluh b)' the Ubcral aovem· n'cnt't oon'titutional propo$u.h;; firlt, by t l1c ISc:C"I•Ion to make n~or co•n titutiooa1 changes unilaterally; Jccond, b)' the th~l to lmJII*I 11n amcndin8 formula wMch woold set proviocc a~lnsc PfO''iJK:e and rcc,Mxl a.pinSi rcsiott: ai)Cf third. by the tnctny or. rt.fcrC:fld:u.m "'hich <'Oiild ride twJ)I'bod Ol<er lhc: other pannc,.. in O~e fcdcn~ l Syiltem.

• U•llll

We bltvc teeD lbe te.Silks lO date of • ...,. btUnt~C:M aad d1Nh"t11CM. Ntnl' bdotc la out COGtlttft b.i$tory Ms a PriiOC Mi n:b:trt del •bnatd y .set out ao Cf'dte J«.h conn 1ct Wot.alillltis ladt or t~«anc:e. anderscandifta and compa~ioa for Cat~adl· ant In all p&rtl o( this: g.tcat counu·y. I would uk tile Prime Minbtor I~ kKJk I() the utlmple$ kt by all or 1111 procktC$501'$ and draw bttd. from thi~ dallJC-I'WJ and dc.mu(ltl~ ooursc. 'fho pllnncnlllp ol Canada mllil continue. h mutt be upfldd. Thlt ruoh.uion wuuld innic:t upl)n it lutlna wou•Mb.

S.•t ""· Me.tlus: Hear, hear!

Mr. Pe:Ctr t:biep {Pt:•fH••)c Mr. Spuh·r, •n tllis Hiltlie. I am bappy to pankiptio In thla tOMtitutioBal <C.kbate.. As yl)_. life &W2UC~ in the pt~bi) j:li'lr tiOfl O( tbe debate in thll tbambcT ~illl.lure wJU inV\Itc:d upon thor!lc mcmbttll wM "''lilhod to participAIC. Ncr-' ~:~aaln lhrou,a.h the n<:W$ .mcdil.l we ''~' nunbUnts thllt tltl' por1lon ol the debdte is to be .fimiccd. I OOpc: thc$e run1bhi'I1J' oro noc l!~;~c. 11 is impcrati'I'C t l1t1t 1ncm· bcti in thD chambct bu~·c: nn (ljlpOftunity to panicipote i.n thh; ckl:lfltc j;C) th:~t t.he lndMduaaJ rca.)ollJ can be beatd on this 'iC:.t)'

impotUnt issue. In mhty, thlt k wbat 011r ck(OO(ncy b all abotiL

I rise to tale ,.,. ie u.is deblte Wl-1111 a «tU:ia ...._.t ol Slldoes.l. ad.Dca bclca.- je ...r rt$p(W ~ del» te is JO

~· Whea .-e .tc- tk chtrattid 'lli't arc fad., u • IMIIioa. WC find 1,..1 thole dllf!Wilic:f .UC ftl)l bd~ dealt •1th simply bceauac ol tiM .uotaaklll tkotics ol one ourt. umcl)' the Prinue Milliner ot Ca1Mtd11 (Mr. Trude:ua). lt is because ltc doe$ not wuh to ultdcntllftd the true rc:dcr;al 1101tur< ~ our Cant~dian way of life. tbt we 11,_ dealint with the con:sci.tution· a l D.~uc .11 this cin'IC.

I am snddc11cd ubo boCIHltc. tbcse COOilomic i$>uct~ htJve ,., ~ :~ddrcsscd aDd thc.y h11ve not bcc.n aiSdrustd si11oe this (1,\lvern· mcru onc:c ll8;2ill aU111nod thc l~tmry beodle$.. I ;un sur;: ch:at tUost melllbtts on b<Kh •ld'fl* or d1e Uoosc •'OO.Id aucc tha1 these 111'1: W;I)C:$ 'lt.'bie'h fll\1.,1 tM: •ddfe$Kd.

Let me bcJi.fl my ~mart• (ltl tht OCIC'Iuiun;onaa issue b1 ,..,ilitatribotc: to tlle kadcf ot our pr~ny .... ho. oe Oa6bc:.t 1, was ~ bu"t a slllort 90 ed•tc5 after ru:ciwiq tM Prime Miaisttr's tat to aufyM tllllt ...a ud 10 look at dtc. diiTal· lie$ wbidl this eo~~~tic.utloN.l Jaofut.Kift wovtd pbtt u,oe the Ca.nadiu pcopk. •ad i• tlillat 111ort period of time- he ~ i:a on t.llot iss~~e~ atld btOYJh' forw..rd Otrr pos.f.tioftl to ,tile Caaadt· an people. t-1~ did all Cuo&clilnt PfOUd by sb:lring ~hh dwm his views oft che comtitutlon:~l rHOiution: at tba t time..

I wisb 10 ~y Hibut.: to tbc hon. member (or l~rovenchcr

(Mr. Epp) lot the intc:arlty wh.ch tu: bassbown in this debutc. I wUh tu r ay tribute o.bo to hb allucn:uuu hip a nd pt.titn~ In dealing wltb the re..olutlon whleh 11.111 occupied so many bouu Q/ bi$ time.

I wish to pay tribute to )'(lu. Mr. Spcaktr. On t•·~ vuy djfficult oco~iaM you oocupiod tbe ~flair when t.bt pr«:c«<· in,s; •~re not •• tbey llhou.ld luve been. I tcmc.mbct the: cvmiQ.& •'kll closure w.u mvtll.od ud a ftutnbcr of bolt members ma.rcbed lO I be CtNir to u.pRU distppointmciU a1 thedo5u:fe IOOIKMI brouJ,ht forward by lK Libcnl !(Jftnlllklllt ~te. I tctlkftlbcr the d.trahy )OIIe~KX~Uim:d by lt.nifll lO mCAC • mcmbu Oft Ilia lick. &nd C-'I'CO 1110w.P I ooecvt witlill wh:at the; member Hl-.1 •t Ulat llmc. f realize c.be difriCVtly •• w h:M.~ ht placed the Chlllf,

Wt. bve moved as ll pc~n) to !i(panuc thU -pac;bcc to tbat we ~n ha,·c. tlle plltrhuion propotUI p.'liltcd now Jivi"', Ca:nadt.. ans the autbori,)' lt> l.lfl~nd their own Coostitl.l~ ion. and 11:1 well a chtltlc-t of rithts which will be d~h v.•ith i:n Canada. Tblt witl gi~-e provil.eial lc.ti•llliiii"C..ILn opport~o~nity '' 0 Jlitr1 idp~t~ in tbc- devclopmcnt or 11 c:hllrhlt or riabtll. This apprOlclt wouki remove any inttus.ion Into ptV"·ineinl rltbts a nd powctS ahd

Mardl J, 1911

provide lmmedi~tdy k eal a-.thotity 1.:1 amend our C•nadd n CoMiit\ltfQn.

Mcmbcrt oppoe~ite might •~k why we took tbb opproacb. We bellew the Liberal gO\·ernmer~t'a npproacll to be illeglli· ma to. unilateral aod. therefore, divWve., Our prO!*JI$ in tbc joint corn mitt« wtn dt:Jisncd to enboncc tbo ktitimacy or the oontthutionnl JWOOC$$ by making it oon'li!Cflt with lhe tradtdom of Caudian fedetalkm. Our propoNb would bt''C &ener· acod n.adon.al pride by havillc cha.I\&C5 to t!K Conu.iMion INdCI io Ca.ru~d&. aod t'C:fl'IO'IC:d the d1'Yisiolll11 the eount.ry b)· bdild~D& ·~ cx~stm& CO.SCMW-

O.r p.tty.-pporu pe.triatioa. We t.:J1f1011 tkCliW.tad!~t ol ~ua.hD.tioo npu in the Con:Mit~tioll. We eho Mppgl't the VenotM~Wt amc:ndina fom:ta:la.. We pruc~ttcd a ttt011.a,.. to tbb U011sc _. Octob« 22. whic:lt the tabcnb tod the New Ocmoc'l'atk Patty voted 11~i:ns1. indicatl.nl thilt we dlo11.ld po.trla 1c our ConJtilvtion immediately.

Tbrout bout thil debate, ou.r puny hu:1 aucmptcd to strike tho QOt'l1pronti~d wbt.c:h are nccw:try tO fl'lt OR end to tbe bo:tlilhy JOIJ 4iYi.m>rui tbrwghout our OINIIIry. This ~Ohtti~n pteoientJy befor-e us hat Pl)iiiOned the iRtera.ovcrl'lmental rela· tlonJhipll which a rc w n«es5at)' in a country ll~tth u Caoada_ We Mvc the u.nflateral action bf tlle Prime Mlnbler in bri!\1:" ln.a forward tl!Jt rt:dutioB, and hili double ~tandard for thanaa I• OUT Constitutioa. suttdatdt wt.creb)· we -ill ha~<t: unllatcnJ fcOcra.l a<::t.ioo for the. Prime Mittitk:r"s 1mmdmen.U ud the applk:a.tion ot ... alne*diflt fcwm•ll for evcr)'bod)' cttc•s U.O.J)Iu.

ne fo..UUoe ol 01u Caadiu fcdmdoe i1 bated GO a J)'Ucm ol t-o «den o( p'a'Uitn.t •it• ra;pca lot each othn. 'nlu presc:at uaih.tcnl a~ioft. this aetl.na 1b!c. ca.\1.1($

8ft atmoa:phC'te ot distl'll$1, ddonity aM COfl(roiUation. l11 o.r C&Md~otn redenltioo Ofilt provinoes hne, and m\ltt contln~&e: to 1\avc, 1 m~niQif~~;J role. to play. PI'(>Viodnl Input b required a nd IIOCettary. We Jn our party would like to 5ee provi.nc:iat inp~o~ t bcea.ue llhc Canadian feder.uio.n lt a pQrtneNhip, :. pnrtncnllip ,.,hic b should )aye. all k vciJ contrlb\llina.

Aa;tin. I libai"CI the view that this resohnlon is creating '" IIIOOiiphcre ,.,bitb wjfl diuup: &~IY p(lflllfbllh)' Of &c:nuinc rt.form tdinc place fn the C:Qm.ina yu.ra.. T1Ml tovcrnmcnt's JIII1)POU.I h buod oo 1 fa.lsc premise. The Uben.l ,.wunn.cttt'l prcmbc i1 tUI the fedeta.l system IIlO toqer worb and tbat PfOI"Cti CUAOt (II)Qk from COII$CloMS. The buic prcmbe ol the n:IOI1tdo. bctcwc: a is thll CC1tiM01$ doct MC. wod:: tlut flqOCMtiofl wiU DOt resgfl i• 1U0CC:1t. 0.. tUt prcmiK. tk Ubcni!IOY'Cte~~Mat ~ reets it it judfkd ie ~ •.blrt

'" the fa01: ol QPPOIW""'tioo. 11101 OCily from tiM' Pf'O"inca.. buc at$0 from the Cnadian ~ "nlc SCftius ol .. , ftdual •ptem is lbtll WI!JCIUU.S dots work when rcuoMblc IO¥':Mme:nu ate wllltn& 10 Jlt do'I'W'R and work out a oontpromiso. 1t Is ob¥1QuS it ... 111 noc 'I'"Qf"k when ""e h:h~ Jl f<dcf'VII t i1Yc:rnmcnt oppoeite wlahtn.a to lmPQ!!c iu • ·ill on other levels of aovernn\CBt. That Ill Clllctly ,.-1\al the Prime Mlnkt.er wl~h-. l·lt wi.d1e3 tbe proccat ol federtaiWt'l to fail s<t 1hat he could force hb o•·n will uPQf! the Con.ad htn popula tjoo. Tills: wu subitantJatcd In the k d.:cd docu,mcou whicb came out of the fitllt mln_i)tm:' me«·

1 ... 1

Tit~ C<OfUdltlllM

ina wherein he indicated h would be b«<eficinl to t.hc fe-l.krJI gO'fCrnmc:ot ir tbo GOnrc:rcncc f;ailod 90 they could pnx:cod with unilateral attkln, The proocu failed bccauSlC the. Prime Minlfl• tcr $llbotugod the fiNt m.lnbtcrl" tQnfc~l\(.1:.

• (ltHo)

Mr. ColloeMtte: I riK on 1 point or order, Mr. S~ka I dtaw )'OII.r amntion 10 tbc feCI that no member of lh~ Uo13e catl impute rnocivo eo 1110tho manbtr of tbt House. 'nw! t.on member for Punblu (M,, £1riop) bN tr&IISJ:tc::NCIIS the tula ucl pna.iocs « t!Mt Howe ~ imptl.ti.ft& motitU to Ilk Prime MJnntcs (Mr. Tl'1l6clil•). I all b1m towtt.hdraw thal CMMnatl

S1er ML Mt...,.,. 0111. oh!

Mr. DtfWIY Speaker. The hon. rMmbcf (« Pembi111a hn t~ Ooot. I am sure tbc horl.. mcmbu b awa«:- Wt tM kind ot b nsw._gc he i$ iU41'114"0Uid C:ll~e Pf!>bicm' in terms of •hat b parliamentary and wha• i3 not potl.iamentluy.

Mr. 1'a)<lo6rl On the 110lnt or otder, Mr. Spcnkcr, tlw: ll1n·

gu.~~se being u.sc:d f., not bulr u. bud u th.:J.t w}licl• th-e Ptimo Minister uses alm\li t C'V(f)' llay in question period.

5cMoe tto•. MMNrs: Uea1. bcar1

Mr. Dzloca: AIl •a~ ta)irtJ, oon.fcdcration ooJy rails: ,.hen itt le!dtrt dow it to fall. •lld the Prime. M1a.sta NI aUo• "Od tbc $)'$CCim •o fail. "J1Ic. Pnmc MiDistcs- a)'fo we ha"C been ..-ortiq for 54 yart •• briq home ow CoestitHtioe. Whr• we uamiac dw ftiOOrd.. • -c r .... that to k true.. Howna. durilta l.._ S4 )'Qn ortly 41 da, wuc altoucd to a«ul Dq.ocia-tions .. brh•ti-a holnc the Contlitlll- 'Thctcfo..c. the arav• mcD• "obv*:sly flbc.

Wby da mcmbte:tJ 09PQ!itc wan t Ore;at Dri1<1in 10 amend our Coastitutioct tathcr than bt'ina it bomc'T Why do tbcy a.d: Great Britain to 11'1<ddle In Ololt al'fair.t! let me i llare with membc:u <IP~itc the tci130D wby. Tbc amendments 10 ~~ Coostilll tlon beins propo510d ill this r~olutlon .,.·auld not meet the tt st a( •he Prime Mlttb.tcr'• :1 mc:.nding formula; lhe,cforc he wan~& Great B·rftaln 10 do h.i11 di.ny work.

In OO.t vk•, tbe propot«< rCJ<Kution is poJiticaiJ)' iUc--1ilimatc iB lhat it i&~~oru C.na4a '• federal aawrc. h ii utltlatcr.~~t bocal!SIC it ududct from the ~ of conltitu.(ional c:IM• tlte prorinca;. w1lic:h II'C (WI pa_~ ia ClOfLfcdcn.tic.. At 1

t"C:Sall. the c:onsail•tioftsl tne'JUIIrc it dirish't ..,.. ud .-at be in the (ll!IU'e..

Tile al'IX..t1nz («mll.bl pMC:~tted in tbc rc:sol•tioa iJ dcfi. cien1. Tbc::re is no mocc: ol p1ninc the~ rcq~titcd to make it 1 rcspcctecl form'*la, MOI'tO'iff. tlle propot>ed \'ictorta fOrmul~ CTcal~ '""IIIC.i of prO'IIlncc, , Ji• ina some 11 perpctWII veto and impotina popu~tion requirements on othcn. I rcj«t tbc \'ictori.:l lut~e!MiiAJ formul11 bt:cauK h d()C$ (l(lt rctognizc dlc: equ.nlity o( the province. in our federation. h provide.t ro &Ome ptoYinccs a pctpctuol veto tcgardleS$ of wbat ttu: ir populadoo may be in ' utul'f yu .r$. 11 crt;~lcs di.l'rerc.nt c:lll,.liCIJ or provincca in tbe Athtntk reaioJI aod differeot cJassu of pr<WitiCd in western C.nad•.

tOM MOXS OEBA TES MvdtJ,It;ll

T~ Coll1tit11tkM

Tbcrc illotwioltS di:scrimWUon in thii amendin• rurmul,. on the bl!lhl or popu_hltioo. The atncndl"' f()f'mulli lt bod boca\lse h l1 entrc.nchint u.nfaiinC$S into it. Eve-n t""-"•all h i; '*ton.g and unfiC<efl4ablc, menlbers oppoiht art wllllna to tee enucmbcd In t he CunJ<titution un amcndin& fonnula whk:h 11 unratr and inoquitabk.

'J'hc lllnttldJ~ tONI'IuJII is OM OF the n'~Qit lmponant 83pccl$ of tbe rc$»ludon. This Liber.ll J.O"'etnmoent r11IJd a ~ety tltorny ltt.ue by ,.,u.., its blessing (lfl tbe Vktorb c.h.arter. Any fi'OYUI« •h~ h&s or has bd IS per etel olthc population of •be 00.111'1'lii'Wkl hal'C • perpe:cul ~ .. The r'C!CI na, wotd • .. w •. niltlf •.-e daa..o&<d ta Cabda ~~n« 1 t71. 'l1lcre Nw: bece aftd wil aoGtllnue to be dcaded pop.bt.o. dl.fls. If ~ ... Orttat» are to bt Cf3.t'lUd a perpcuaal mo. ""'*' prooriMlU whidl au.y z.row to U per tmt et• jldtlfaably MY tUt the)' tbould ba~te the veco n.ow. Aftct all, pt\WiftCU • [0. 2$ pet «nt DOW may tiOt luve that pofiUiation in ll)c ful.Urc, but they "''111\uYc a pcrpctu;al l'eli).

The poopk in my area arcue witb pcrrca k>a:k t flat il Q\tcbc;: 1nd Onllldo are ta rttain o .,-eut, e\'c:tl it they 10$() the Shfllt: or their population which &n~~ 1hem tl1c \'eto. 1hen wcitarn CaMdJans should ba\'C: it ~·. 1t conOrn's v.·hnl m;my of u11 bellew, ttmtlbis Conttilutic.n ix bd"a tt.,.'ritten 11in1ply to protCCI tl'lc: tw.·o old prO\'incu of oonfode"tkln We flnd d.at dlterlminatioll toutll)l uJI..f.ail. We tdellt bcln, 111.1de &e«~nd• cla• etll«:ns.

Tit& to"'tt'nmcnl inMsts 011 •hCOipooatbtJ 1 td'ctmdiiUII i•to ,~w; mot..~I»>L no .. w Ve d~e amcniiO"U''Intat• ..a.,. cn.l power t.o ~ the CORU!lutbl wil*t reference to the dtctcd kaisbt•rcs qf tbe pn1"'iMU. We rojoct tills pt"Ope*ll )lope tb:at ronnbcts opposiu -ill en.ft.-c tllelr ~ ;~~nd 9Qfc i~t f•~r ol the amendment • ·e put ror-.·ud Clrikor.

Tbc c:h:utt:r of rights atld fnc:doms I' def!dctlt in tti;Jt it

~· not indudc dl<C rigb1 to enjoyment of property. Tbe Utl'(i1c ~>( th.it ri,g.ht ~s been instrument•l ln ti)c bulldini of Canad11 and U a principle- ,·alul!d by the ~~~ majurity or C.nadilnl. El'Cryone who bu underlitood the 001nmou la'W hall 1uld t l~.at a 1nan'11 home Is bls c:u:de. M l n)' peoflk cmiftn~~cd l<.t C.na41t •unn:t(ld by the right to ov.n hOmtJ. farmli and Jlf'Openy.

Tbc UberaJ-NDP <'08Jition bali rcfiUOd to cndorfc: th111 n&bt atMI ~1114c h in the eba.rtcr. OM mun atk. wily ha.-c tbey dooM th:il' Wben the boo.. ~~ ror ~ opteed tht d~tt' ''" wr p.any. ht- QIKStioMd •kf the Ub:nd Part)' tc)«Cfd O.t ammdmmt.. b;u;ed (110 the bWft'abaltt bill ol rt,lus., to t'CIQilpize ud a~kd.JC the :wptcmloC) ol 0011. A pott.o. ol chat alllttddtl'lnlt rt:!d., ... rrttmlttl tbl.t tile Canadian DO.IkHt b rou!Wikd •poo the prifldpk• tll.l( •tknowlcdge tbe J;u prcmacy or God'".

Why do member' opposite no1 see flt to lnecwpot"atc an amcndJm:nt Jll-Ch as this itt tbc: constitutional podt~c'J fl.bny of \If belicn thut tbe L.ibe~I·N I)P t;QJ~Iitlon h.a• •old out tbe ln~etQIIU of western Canada. Members of thoa New Dcmoeratk Pn.rly 1111)' thr•t the: ft..'IOiutiun is very 1'1\U~h irnpro~cd bf:<:luse or the rneny amendmemsthe)' proposocl, If .. ,. rcowk•• the record. •'4: Ond Ut.~t ol the 43 amendmr.nts they J!fffented, Cl '!''<re

ddeit«< at~d twl) were IO.Xpttd. Tbc~fl'Kc they c::::tn tJke Vtf) litll.: t:~it for impro'''" the rcwlution.

Wtsterll. CaiUidium de> not w.·i~b t() dlsn~antk this nntiOlt, They want to p.utkil)lltC In a fcdualion v.·hich s ivd equality to :tU. How~-cr, 11.C)' IJI'Iuuld ~li i>Oet and r«cive lairncs11 from our fcdt111l iMIIt~atil>ns A~ I illu, tmtcd In 11'1)' ~a.rlicr remark.l., the amellding fc>rn1ula :tlonc: mall;~ tJiem ''«Y wary 61' any prospcet ol fairnclil on t~e f11u1 of the federal gO\'ctornent,

• fHo..'CIII

I b-e C.aada and 1 lo--e Albma. Mr. Speatc:t. I wafll tO luw: lbc opport••l~J ol tontribrinJ, (0 tlx lf0">1.h of ball. Wbca .-c e:wni• wtt.t h.u btta twoq)t rorwatd i• cM aut (e• mo.ths: ud tile Dqltiq im;9d 1t k hlt'iat oa the: kcioe tkat I coow (AMft. ·~ fiJICI 11 U1 caiiSCd divi$ioa. Ttw- ()()fbllh•· tiolt!IJ po.ctate IU.t eitl~Ud cl•-.~&Mlll. The enc:ray pud;~,e lu.t abo e:tukd divi:don bcc:o~~M 1t b ttHimll::u to tbe. ootlstitutlofto al paelu!ae in iu di$Qfitt•lnation •aajnsl the regionl'.

I cannot l1dp ~t be pvtzlcd •ben I 3U bon. JI)Crtllx:rt opposile indiento !lt:tl~ltlvhy to tbc frustratiOil$ of Qu~;:bi:c. I synlp«tbl-zc: ..-·Jt l• t he rrumntlonx or people in tha t area btu I ~m pu~lcd thal hon. tn(m~n OJ!P.llilc .s.how ~ lhtle sc: ttsliM· ty for ocher t~rcu ••het~ fill of tbe oountr)' i.1 Can;adn.

As I t.hatod <Aoltll you cMiiu. Mr. Speaker. ODC man'11 obsc.sttion ill ca•,inc tk difTte111ty llut •>c art h&\'in,a Ill

Ca.nada. tocby. When •c 00115idcr the coooomic dtfrtevltiel 1b1 lk uda. (M~t:~., •'e tee 1hl.t tlll6 to-'C't'JUQeflt bas J,iVdl .. reo:;ri •sh i•urcA rttea.. 1 tciCOf4 kw dollar. rt:Uifd w,t. ~-•t 1pCtldlq. rtiCOtd fliP ~~ ckftdu •nd rcaxd Ilia' utlltft'ICIIo)fMIIt Ma)'tlc: t.t.dt a~ the. tc'UCifti (011

the: <lOOStit•tioNI prop.;».a.l bdOR vs. Maybe lion. mcmbcrt ~ite hope: tit-Jot the C.JUd..an poopk •ill be p~uJied whit the oonnituti.oo2l propoMI and nc)ll rdlizc wh:at a po.:w job they bO\'e doM of aov«nlna t.he natioB for tbe &a.staC'\~ral )'tlU'l•

In his Pft:Knli•tion 1ny coUeUJue rrom 6rJti$h Cohur•Wa, v.·ho b:u been my ~ternrn.a te for ycont s.tid tbnt when •'C

Ultminc I be .,_·ordlna of this rc.wl111ion, • ·htn 'llo't considc:r wl10 is talkinJ. to wll<lfn, 'A'C rcolilc lbal by tbi$ ~alut i<~t~ the 80'-tmmt:nt gives IX'rtJin rlaht• aod prMicges to the C11nadiaa people-. The wordins or lhe rCIIOiutkln b ''ery ,;imibt 10 that of llte Rus:sia.n C"OMtitv!loo l• 'lllhkh the- p>«omcn' $UI~ the ri&}lts ud pm-ilqe$ to be an;ntal to lhe people. When •>c (IQOlplTC: tlliJ propoalto lite: COMtit•tion o/ the tmito:f SutCI.

•'t' f..S that tltc t'C'I'CtN 11 trw.. tllal tbe people lbere ~le 110"""' acwcr•Jneftt • llat pow-cn lky patiO tbt JOf«:fftM.e.l.

Tlaat is the way it •bwld be i• C...., O.r powers $hould be derived from the: popcl.UIOI'. Ttlott is not tbt way thil l'dCIII· tioB U •·«dcd. howc~a. The Prime Mlni$1er believa th2t he it alMighty and that be c:un arant privilqt,C$ to tb.: iOOivid\lal in CaMd;&, That Ill t'IOt whal I bdicvc demiX:r:IC)' ill and it ill not the •'ll)' thnt (believe I he country sbouJd be run.

I ha~e. many reservntiM$, Mr. Spcaktr. and the .ji.Teatcsc one rel.at.c:s t (l the ametMtlna fonnulo. I bdien· th;,t in oor nntltln aJJ rqio.ns should play 1 111eanin.gJul role. I advocute that 1lw &mc:ndit~g plotdi5 5hould be wtuJ.t ill 1:no .. n as the Vancouvrr

M~rch J, 1911 CO\iMONS DEBATES

fi)Jmut.. I alto ad-nxate a 'banae in tbc l'll•ti.LJ <Jt tbe Seoale. We i hould h3ve equal representation from eac:b pt<WinciC in the .S~tluto nnd it tbould be 11n. el« tcd bod). The u&IOIIJ would be protcetcd by 11 second chamber. I wllolchc;utcdly .wpport rcptt&Ct'IUHion by t)OI!IJtation foe the. House or Comn'IOid, but it ilo! obviout tbut if the rcgiom :u-e tu tuwc 11 rok to pllay io oonfodct1ltion. they mllSt be respected.

M y pa_rc.rH• were imrniyanu from Tbc Ncthrrlal)(l,. Tbey ClfDC here bccawte tbey fell it wu a land(>( OI>I)Ori.UIIIit)'. Tbey ._t od C..\trcmct, •ard a..lld prosfiC'tCd ilt tbcir •• llomc bocaate ol l.hc ria)tJ nd r~ t.hcy ~ IKrc.. "' dcacd ..,.bets ol l}.is Hou:se. ic if; .,., ~tJOa to ClAre that thck ri&bt:, and frftdoms .a:n protected. Tk)' .. ~ • deep f«li•l ol prick dl briq: C'ana:dil.o ucl th~t prktt wotdd baYe be-en more ric:h al'ld cl«:p l:wl: this comtitut:iorwiJ mo~ .. taon met

wnh a 'cnu111 CQ!t1CMI,l$. Wb:tt llhould dc'fciOp 11101'0 nution:ll pride tlllltl bringin& the Consti(ution t10mc to C.nada'l lntte#d, h hlU cuU;Kd division in. t he nation,

Let 111(1 close by abaring with l.hc liou~e 11'1)' rccun, l h~ l in good contciC~nce I otnnot l'Olc: to support t hh1 rc.olutton. I c;nnnol 11--e ..-·iiJI myself kn<l..-·ing that h would kll \'r: nl)'

oonlllitucnlt:, my rccioo a.nd m)' soos '-11 ll('CI{Ifld •chiJI ('ititcna in a B.atiOfl "'IM:re l lllHC wpposod to be cqu.aJ

M 01ot ..--c.tcrn Cao•diam •·n l to play a l\illand meanrll£rul role In the dC'\'C'~I of this aatto.. Tbcy ••u l to C'OII tribotc to tt.e arowllt u 011tyol' theW ~tio.t but to a.ll of' C..uda. &.t ., the polic:lcs of lJii5 IQ"UUODC'M CDIIIiniiC IO J"'l''l .... 1 o/ conrctk,.t*-, thM •bt •illltlppc.~ to thisco.ntry .. otMow: .....

AJ I Mid aul.ltt. Mt. Spc:a.ter. I love: Ca.nltdl, I kM AJbcfla and I with lO oontnbutr: to th~ gt\lwtb or both. I w01.11d a.'il. hon mcmben oppoeitc to aUow 11.1 whO COI'Iloe from tbc far rc>1ioo1 Qr Cnn.1da eo rontribute to t he wdf"l~ ur llw nation as a wbole. Tr...c PQtriotbm is tU Cfitidu oonmuc:dvcly the land of our fllthent a11d to coMUUct tbe lund ol our children. We \ll'ant t l) m'kc: 11 ho:.ttcr country a.n.d a whole loc bcuer wmld f01 our children. TbiJ !aDd o( o1.1r rather$ h1 1101 as ln,pcwtant at 1h\: land ..-.. ka\'t to our cbiJdren, This oountry if.. In tltlt .5eMC, pN!CiiCI)' tbc OOQJul)(;tic)n of virtues that WCif'O aM. IH1'l t11ddt18 in Cl'l r hl'-tOtic bomc. The nation iJ •·hat ..-c lu\'CI not bctJlar~d

•hat •-e m~».t beuftdu peaaJty of fedLn, ounc:IYU c:tUCICl. By to u.nck"'--ftdjlll Gl'lr country, patrloti:t.m bt<:omct fOf Q • •

iaca.sa•t .ct.'U). 0... COilfiUY bccoma a ...t 10 be C!Om

pktcd. a rrobkm 10 br: sotKd. h is our dVt7 zo co.pk:w tliaa.t Q)t ,

Any 1h1"tfnt ~ wiD aJtce !.Ut InK J*Crkltiun I:J to «ilk'llc tk: l.tnd o( our f•tbcrs ~nd 1b NMltUa tbr: Jgnd ol our d uklrc11. Tbc Jtcat«t exptmioo o( tn~e ao.. i• the dctire to help and 10 semi Ofle'u:ourtlr)'.

Some hoo•. M e•lter•: Hear, hc:tr!

M r, o.-e OlnsnJI (C•pr: Onton•£.11 RlchllwetJ): Mr. S('ICIIkcr, In rlllln.g to speak on the proposed rc~1lu1lon rc•I)C(I· itiJ the C11nadilan ConniLuliM I shoukl like 10 rtmiltd hoo. mcrnber4 U~ttbjJ debate iJ •P' te> be re00£tliud ift illbtioquwt

n~ Coc.rr/ttdion

year$ by ll.i1;tCwriat1fo, ac.dcmlcs nnd our 1M:vilabk sue~ as a crucial mark; in Canadl~n hbtory.

• i !Uit

First. I \1/'0Uid like to conjntulate the Mcmbt rs of Parlia· mcnt a.OO those 11enator1 wbo f1Urli9ipt&lcd in the. sp«ial ;o.int wmrniu«. I thiftk J!CI.rllcu. l:tr oonaratu1atiom should bt bcuowod ~;~po.~~ 1 hr: 1 ..-'0 oo<l» it men af t.bat oommiuce.

l.o addition, I belk-'CI Cl0111JIIU!41tfons sbou.Jd be CXIIIYeycd 10 tbost • iUK$SC:$ ..-ho tppcarcd belorc U1c c::o.runittcc. p~ C"tideocc and s.bmittcd bnt:& on a ¥ariety oJ topic::i as the')

tdtte lO tile CoMiita~t.._ T1lis R.d•tioa bebc PatUIMitt cuuillls ~ PfO'n"

tioaS wlbc'h. by tbcmttl¥o. arc- 1101. cWaslift blu. ~atca (lO(JCQ:~t,. ~" be Jald to cftCOn'lpa..Y aU of ·••bat Job" Porter might rer« w aJthc Ca1U1di1111 moeaic.

Ooc impon""lnt tupoct or thb con.Jtitutto.ut !)l!cla.te is the Cnnndian Cha:net of R1¥,hls 1111d l"r~cdoms. h is m>· U'lnlln~C"nt

that cr~sb.rinins i•• the C11n~u.tl!l n cQn~ti tutlon a charter of righu u d frcedorM is: 001 only 1111 lnlportant pspcct <>l tbis eonstitu· l.ionnl ptld:n£0 but a c.. udal •~pcd of <:iio:ll/oderatioo.

For a ll:lOmr::flt I would like ,•cry bfleOy to dc:sctibe wh111 some ol tbose riJ!,ht.J are. 'nle ra~ndamr:nlll l ri.ghts are freedom ol dllniclC'DCc, and rd iJ)on. fr"-"tdorll of lboustlt.. belief aM opi:Dion. (r«d.:am ol CA)ItaiJion, .netudi~~& frtedom o{ tllc preu dd. of OL'IIIne. r~ fJI tikmM}'. l1tc ckmocntic riJbiS &t$

the t%hb of iodi¥Wv.JI Caud.._ tO 'I"'te in dcctioftt; of )femkn of P.arbmtet •1'4 mr:mben of pto-tinl:i.al kV:Jb· t•rc:s. Tlt«c arc kpl ria.Ms • krcby cvuJOM hu the riPtto tiCc. liberty aad scaari1:1 ot ptriOil. EvefJOOC Ns tk ril;b.t Mll to be arllitrarUy detrutiCd. Every Canad1otft also flu lbc ri1h1 to br: sta~re tt:~ainst unm~blc u.r~;b or $rita~.

Tht're were YllfiOUJ antCMntcnts to thde ketiocu: as a rc:sull o( lc:stimOrty by 11 variety or lfmiP8 ..-ltioh appeatcd bc:fort the s:pocial joint committee. lncludin!J !he United Cbur<:h of CoruuJa, the Cantullan (.."'tv11 llb.:rties As~i.1tion a.nd t he gtJ\IC"fllmem oof N.:w Btufl~'ll·lc:k.

Ever)"'OO~ hiu the tl,s.ht, on arrc~t Or detention, to ~a in and instruct oouM<"J witllout delay and lobe infonncd or Utat riaht. Thi1l$ a ntw addition becluM pu01 to t1ti5 in the oo•rnnloOfl law oDe did DOC t..\""C" lhc riJht eo be inf'-""rntd lha.t OM could ba\'C·

kgal ClOll:OSd. E''U)' jflld,widu.al • eq•atJ bet~ sed under the: k w ud is ml.ltkd 10 a:rul Pf'Ok"C'liiOa ud beocfJt vltl.c bw willlout discrimiuuo• b1Ucd o. ~«. a.Jtioul oric:ift or ctll•ic «ilia. colol.r. tdi;poll. lilt\. I.&'C· • •u.l or pb)$bl dislbiJily.

In t.11c clurtc:t of ritbtll we hi.~ cltfluinod t!K l\lfO offiCial 1~1"'· We ban al:so cnthtmr:d ~ aboficinal and treaty rights of the aboriJil'lll pc()tlk of C.n~cb. Tb~ rigbts wnt now be rttOg.niled and orfitm<Od 1n a Canadian Com.titution.

One ilnpon:ant aSI)«I or thl~ Cilnadi.a.n oonstituti<mlll pack· age is mobiliiY ~i8 111.L I belk:vc h it 111 al\iolute ncceuity to malnt.ai(l and pron1o1c: tht Canodian « oOOmie u tl it. Consc· quc:ntly, mobility rl~hls OUII.httO be cnt briDCd in the Cantldlan Connitutioo. l:.tl~htinins in the Ce.nndian Constiuuiorl the: «mOC:pl of mobility riM.hb v.•oiild sh·e to C.n11dian eitiuns and

COMMONS DEBATES Mtrdl J. •••• TAt Cottnlu11/Dtl

JICftof!J who .11.re permantt~t re$.dcnt.s ocruln lnhertftl righu bllied on che toMtpc of Cal\lld.11 u an economic and political "niol• In whicll C.nadians should be: rrcc to mo11e., reside and 'otWk wiii)(MII disC'1irnitlatioo blllltd upon pt"ovlr.clsl ar ti::rrilotlll.l ~ndaries. 1'ht:M: prO'·isions wuuld JlfCvotnl 11 provirtQC (I'Ofl'l dcnyina people rrOO'I otbcr provl.nou the tiJ,ht to t.d :e tlp rcaidencc or seek •ork .dmply bcalutc the)' •re rrom othtr provlncu. Emhriniog mobilit;y riabu in tllc Corultih,nioo does not P~'" the prof'ioces ftoc'l'l aPfll}'U'I qwallfieltions for rmptoymeru ss lo~ as they 11pply cqlllllly 10 Jitl'llbr pc~ in lbe~

nil CMOrpl q( mobiity riPts ... ben~ amtmed ud ,....,.,., by Cu:tdi:aas aerOls tlar COimtr)'. Gordca Fair• watbcr camt bdorc tbe $pCCia1 joiat OQIIWI!ktoe ·~ a~id: 1-.......... Ocfip ... 10-Wl ........ ) tlflollo-•"" _...,_. . U

~ht ... ,,.IIM """'"-~ ~ r-. ""' w. l'lllrkl., M .tt!lit) ~ -" .._,, t.. .oa•l rC'WIIu;o. In l"-~ •1141 I ''*"~ • I• tlmt 1'1••• P"lfllr ~ 111&1 • • • w~ •"' -.!1) """"mlu.ed Wl tll!• poln.:ir tc ~"" I ..-a: ,._,""" teotdtk ~~ orc .... c~ •• ,..,.

/1. t~poka~ma.n rot lhe Umadiln Cbambc-1 or Commer<le who o.pponrcd before I he llp:t;ialjoinl t:Oinmln~:c.atd ihis;

I *"i))lld •~c lb dn w ~ )Wf 111t101:dm the -aer• o/tlltl t.tin~ rummunily or C•a;ula .. the ~t know• u 11(1)-IC .... thu ' il Ill~ frte 1\.:w bft-11 , .. PN"iii(I!!J of~ Sa~, co,Owl aMI WM11r,, . \lo'e ha'oe a .. ~.," thu l•lllfdtlll- •• , ht• •11 , _ , ,ivflldlo:t~ ,,. ~" ncatinc ~ hulbhipi..""' _.., -..ith Uo! l-r\fl&:tlowlllllol4 r.. c..- .. a •Mic M tiN~...._ o/ia~tudc..

l ie abo uld tk Co.rstiurtioo ~kl Pf'O"Mtc (Of a rcdlll:tioo o( tlloc bnpeditnCOQ.

A pat ..a..y otatn' ~ t'CICOpimt • .,. affinncd the CIOeCltpC of mobilil)' ri&}tts. la .. A f'vlllre T~· ill JI.Ouat')' oll979, tht Tuk Fora: Clfl C.NIJY• Uait)' aid. altd I qiiQte:

hla f'*ral-, tk ~.,.. «Pf« ~Wit~ .. ,...,.._ ftltw., I """" of Uot f"t« III<Walloel 9f kbow. ~plw.l. ~ aN .......

Tile Canadian Bar Asi«:i:~.tkm Mid llle foUo~~o·lna: n. Collttkution drlould po•ldt tllu .1111 nttJipOWtl ••r ~" frocly 111¥ IKiul

diMllflllitllllion ,-.,~, the OCio.onl '1•

The Quebec Ubetal pany hat btetl rcrcrrcd to by hotl. lllCiftbef1 opposite. ln lu beige pv.pcr h taid:

Tlw WO!tliludonal arr~nl> .. hith Wllllld fllal'llllot the ..,., "' all Ca• dl•• 10 es••IIIUb tllc.,.hq. .ll,...bcre 1n ,.,. '""'"f· j"" tM:ir ~~ 10 -oltihl). _. • CIMir.6rt tk ..,.,.,tn.U._ Ill ,.,.1_ ~inion , •• Wt tllly .ut, ..,..._, ...,._ lie "'""''-,.., ,."'""'- U•J wW.:II c.utt..l~t.alc .,. .. _ ,..,.,..... .... ~ .... ..,.o,c...._,

I •• • M~mber of Patlia.nw:al from Atfllndc C.Aada. We ill Atla.ode Cauda U:ve a fair aRrc: of tllc tnOM chiiU&i-& ptObk~m dlt.bis CClllultry. Q~ ....... Watt tflltalioa. lt D penbJJ.rJy imponaDt that • e u a counti'J N.-c mobi!ity rilbtl.

If hon. members were 10 chccl whb Stlti:Ala: Cauda 01" fOIT'Ie Olber body, ..-·bether il be pi'O'I"incial Of federal, •.hey •'(Mild readil)' JCC that the Row or aood• tafMS l•bour bdwc:etl tllo proviDCes OY« a period or time iJ u tronomical. For hlttonec:~ rrom October, l 979, to Septe•nbcr. 1980. 1bc numbc:-t of I)OOJ>Ic;~ wlto mi.cratcd to the. provi~c: ql Ne••roundland was •PPI'OAimately 11 ,000. The number or people who mi!rutcd 'rom tho.t ptOYincc wu appro~imatcly I :t,OOO. The fi1ures I

ba''C QOYCr aU the pro.·iflt'CI. J t can readity be ~«n t!YI the work rorot or Can11d.A ill .-cry liber.11l ..-itb fQipea to moblhty. h too doe;, no(JC nnt to bcrcs.Uieted.

We g nnol apcuk or ttiobilhy righu in 11 v;u::uum. I bcfiel'C we must loolt to .. nh~:r h1risdietioos. wltielt have emhri1M!1I 100bility riabtt in their ooostitutiom. Why should C al\&d;t bCI different? Sueb otb« Ju•ildk:t:.oni Ill lh.e \Jnit~ StoatC3, Au"' ualia. Switt.ttl:u'lil, the t'*ral Rcp'lblic: or Gcrmaoy a•l lncfi<~n li<~Ye t.ll e:Mbtlncd ha thrir c:oostirutioc'ls dw: Or:)I:M:'cpt ol mobility ri&hU..

In the- • Y' .,nee thi.t penmct~l aUOilllttd irs pia • tG pa.triaK lk C....til•lioct we hue heard a fqt q/ cmodouJ teae:tiom froa • "llritty oi.~Mn:u. lll&c:d Ois d fi"'PU. '• I ~we all loot fOtWard to tht arrival olour Constit•tion;. Cauda af\tt eomc 11) )'eltl, h it ao 1.rriTal to wbicb I took forW2rd •it h • II'Cit lieftM or aocomplimMeftt. I. like other .t.temkr5 of Parli•nw:nt ••wt like che mcmbcn. ol t he SeDate. •dJI be li pa11 or thta l lt'C.III ancf historiHYCIIi.

t-lo.,.~n. (or • tnotnent ltt us lay aside t.hc erootiorml O.Spe<:b or t.hi11isA1.1C 111\d t:\fl lninc CK3.ttly what the pl&tri:IIIOO ()( this CoMtltutiM rnelln.$ Inn pfuctica1 ~nse~ I btlievc allyf u.~ here and all tho.,;c ~aerC!It the:> nadoa an cognlt;~nl ol tM rcasoos why tbc FatbcN ol Conrcd(rJtion came tocethl.'f over • century :t£Q. 'fbcy, like 115, rcooocftized tbc: potttnial q( 11 u.nioll of the widc.tprnd ~Jions of thu. blld. OnJy toc:l:&y •re Yo'C bqi•nl.ft& 10 tdlbc tlr.u p..Jt:Cfltill r.uy. lt is a pocc:•tlal wiUc:lt a "•ked impfkid)' whtt a ~ cconomk .Mn<:~•tc pcciiCd by a III'Oft.l utio-1 p;Jm"U~C•I. Tky, lite -. ~ tbt d11b llnd coow hu .. abddaoot ol ruo.roa. aid wealtb wllidl ate JC.'CIIIftd tl) IIOnC U. tht rat of the worfd Tbey a.bo f'CICOI"t.t.Od 111<11 1k 5I rntZtlt of these rcsou.ms ~)d ooly be: fuJiy ruliaod •"kn tbe -.oocts alld sen•iot$ abt..nd.ant ill oDC area of tllc oc.untr)' OM!ld be ilntC.d with atbtr ;trc;u • ·bc:re those: parLiou.lar f'CIIWrCO& did n(JI 11bo111K1.

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We 11~ nll1a.,...rt.. Mr . .Spcak>c:r, of tlte value of thU hOI1iitk: pllilo:lophy. o pbilosopby th11 t .states ut~cqu lvoe-.&lly llull chc: .wm o( lbc iDdlvlduat plltU b ;tu::alcr than lhc .s.u.m total or each irad.l.,ltfu:al scamcnc. 11 wo.J this. rcalizatiott. above all c.IM, 1bat prompted tbc nrioous ructW:JM to la)' asid~t their mdJ.,tcfuJ coats in onkt ~ ClOCI•tr..CI 11 4-!r!K•urc fr<MO wbicb all WQIUW bme(il.

Tbe Jock o1 Ml(• •• arsunw• t n d aro.ad • tOilaJ ror • to wiew &ftd a~M. C.ud~ is I <:OWIU)' tlliat O'lloU 1U pn::~ea~l Nt1K 10 the foru;lpt and~ ol1~ ptJOflk .were able to lay l.dlk lbdr ~I intuuts. in the sbo« term to a~~ m.uh• th..t indhiduaU)' wookl have btt" liJiaU~iDible.

b1 many Wl).._ when I thin\ of wr OOQntry I cannot belp b111 compare. it to 11 rn1nily. Oul.,..tcUy, a ramily can be 1octt1 • •" group of indi...Wuu,l§ e11ch 'lo'ilh tl t:trltllin tet of go.tls, c:Jtp«ll ll • tions. inte«.\U 1111d 1al~n111. Ccn ain mcmbel'l may mate their t:Onlribudon lhrwth chclr &kills. llS i.nteUecl iUIIs or tdul.'llii(U"S, oellen tbrw&b their ublht)' to tl'l:lnufaeture, « nd ,s.lill othct.\. throllgh thclt COIItpctMlon •nd undemanding. AIJ make volw·

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ubi<: conuibuliom. and oo OM tr:lit 1S mort or lc:a imponaot 1hon Ill\) Qehu. Scp:mllcly, titdl rN)' be nbl( «o C:ltiSl lndc:r,eOOc:ntly, at least f« a t.hon period of dmo, Dui wbcrc, I 11~k you, Mr. Speakc:t, does the real s-trenjth (011'10 from wilh theK lndl vldut~l.,! lt I'C$Uit$ (f()ITI their ((llllll'lll IO,<:tbct IJI a unh thot •-c refer to as a family, his the f111nily that Jlfl)\'ide~ II'C M:ldc o( bdOAgin~;. tl~ot feeling of i treBJ1Il, and tbc IOCR~ of ldc:ruhy.

AM • 'bat of this family that wc ti iJ C.11acb? Ill my IMlotJ', all the faml.ly member$ haw •i&ftirOM 1od vital fokt tO p&ay ia tbe ~ Ud rwacrnd011 ofta.e unit.. In tllis C»~~•lt)'. c. ~ is abk lb lftlb its 0011~cion thrOIItb ib abl~ ~ mi-.:qb. tlilc: ,.., 11111kriab nccdal b IIWUtfac:tViac- wftik uothu tU ptoridc tk u,per\iw forNnuf.Cttltl~ thac m:&wi:ab., and •till aiiGikt CIIA pt'O'Jide tbc c:nct11 f'C:IOIIf'QC:.1. needed ill tM ma.nur~C'Iunl'll· Soow n.ernbcn c:an ptOYide food from tbe waters th;u .t-utrwnd thc:m, 1nd other$ f(M)d from tbt: land. & 1nc u.ru• lfC ideally suited to provide tbc facilities for uponin.a our aoodll. while C)t iW:nlllro bellcr equipped to prov-ide the a.ood~ to be exporlcd.

The point I wish to make, Mr. SI)CJI~et, i$ !hil l 1.'0IIccth-.:ly afl 11 notion •-c possess all the skills. rcsourCO$. iniliatiV<l • nd lntc.lllat.IMl(. d1at wll.l a.llow ut tt> aebi~11C our ltiK J)OIIenliala5 a arc:at romity. • ~JUt nation.

SoMe lltiL M4!•flmc Hear. hear!

Mr. Dklrd: WU.t we mUS~panl .,.ill5t~ ...,.n-u, is tlpe

te"'f(aliOII to COWII ~ as pan cltht family o.ly .two h it 10 oar adQnla.JC. We atlOOI be a IM!nllcr who rda 011.

tht famiry uit oaJy ia lime$ cl -.ctd aftd t•n:t Ill INd ta bcucr \lma. We lmi.St 1110t tr)· to b.vis'- our o--1\ ialcmllat tt.e expcmc ot o4Mr f<1mily memben. S.c-.h u oceurr~c. c.nnot be pc:rntjuod for it «:an at the .-ery fibre t~l bfnd;, tl'lo unh IOJCIIwr, kavin& it ddjointed, ineff~cti t-e: and 'ttt'citk., Hen~e the JICC:d for cmhriniQJ. i.n dle c .. oudiu C<Jn!1thuti(ln IlK OOIIC"<:pt of eqt.~ll.l i t.~ttion.

Sutl" bqn. Mu1b«5: Hcu.r, hC";..r!

Mr. Ol1111••ll: Thc.re aro .sotne who •nay aarcc witb U!e polntt I a m INbns but 'I'Oice thc:i.r Optl(ltiitiun to the n\IIUtc•· i.di • bleb tbb p ·c:ramecu is mewing to aocomJ)fblt the t&5k.. t ._kt rc:mltwl lhtm Wt this ~mat d ~ the very f'O'!''(f l.bal lbr Coutitution .$(IIQ)M tO C$Uib1M. a P'*'b 1ha1 •.oukl allow for a WOII.I "'ioc. t.be woioe ot tile poopk, to be hnrd at.c lhc: Wlioc:s of~ .-hoK .... ,. co-:-na •-u diet OWft rtaioul aJid Mnetimcs sdfM iatcrcsu.

ni~ pcram.tlllt. in i LS ft'IO'fC £0 p.1-tli:lte c)le Coauitutioa.. is bnnall\l 1h1:f cou.n.try 10 a new ud cxc;itina p.eftod ltt our h.lttory. Tbb move 1$ as important as tbe orlaln.tl unc, made owr • «tthH)' a.go.. Ut that it allows liS to adVJnC~e to our nc.xl flatc ol duvcluprnent, ;, lltit,ge llt-11 will "" \Ill rlMrt'C from adolotcencc into adulthood,

I IH&~c uheady n:fcrn::d to my CMCfll)t of thit counuy as bc:lna J.lmilllr in .struelurc .and pltilosopby 10 lh:u or tile fainlly. a fAmily with ~>bared responsibiUty for the • 'CIII·bc:Jnl q( each

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ochct. This notkln of Clqll.,llt!Hion ptovidcs lhe vetuc:k by which th.is respo~lbilh,y q~~n be rc.1btt:d. S~tc::b a system thould n« be l"t!~uScd by any Olle rqkln or pl\lVinee u a oo~Wil)' ~rce$, • ·i1h moMy c;gn!in..,f•lly being Uttcn from one :m::t tO be pumped into anothc:.r, M(.lrC)OVCr, 11Kh ;1 $ystem allow11 the ~tiQillll jll)vtnunenl to provide a llimul~,». in fl given ari!A (or 11

« rtain period of lime, • time ""hCtl that pr<Wii'ICC is ublc IO .support itstft

Tbc: OQmmitmt:nti ti tled tn Soctioo .l4-(l) qf !he prOJ!Oicd resolc:tiott-«1 ~ OflUotl oppoor1.utitK:S. to I"CChx:c CIOOIIOI'fl·

k disp:arit.iea ud to ~ CMCJ~da.T pttblk ~ aer<~Si 11te c.•lry- capr•n: one ot the: n»t importut dc:cJcau ol whll il l'lldJlS to be . C.ftildUift • • •ill~ 10 •liaR Olf &oord fortune ud our oppothulicia. ao lNt we can &row SlrOftl ,.......,_

I .$ho~akJ like 10 fC'mmd !loft, memben tbat tlti$ commnmc:nt applies lftOt onJy «O Pllrbllment a!Ml: 10 the GcJt·ernmenl o(

Can:ul.1, butlllllo to tbc lclb.latumand the &o\'t l'nmenu ol tbc pro11i:n~ ahhouf.h it it: noted lh111 tbb oommitmc:m ~ nol

11ltct the kgisln tl~ powel'll ofthCJ twourdcr.l of government.

'f11erc il (!N:!H rnerlt In Cllllthrining in the C(lfli titution lhc «lOAOCpl Of cquulb3tk>n JO tbal 5btt.ri.ng w·iU be JIJI irnpt>rt:1111 ing!'Mic:.tl tn tbe future ell our WiliO•UIJ life. Bul tbc:re QIA be 110 dc11:bt abuut lh.c: fcdett l 10\'onmc::nl'!l <:untn1 C01rtmitmcnt to tbe pri!W:lplc (I( oqu•lb.ation.. I (:QUid g.o on~~ 5l(ll'nC lcn&lh tO descn'bt the cutrcM ecpaJi,..at.OI J)I'Qgrlftl. t.lt k:t me Amply aott that. for the fi~l )Ur 1910-ll. this ~In will rtqu•re 4~ lfl ~ccu ol U.J llilb•. la Atbatk Caucb, the p<l''illcc ol Priftoc &l• .. td bb. .. 'lrlll rc:oeiv"e ffOin tllc fedenl goJenlli'ICtlt ldiiCIOIIdtiiONiny, • tth no utiogs anadxd, •pproUrlatcb' S8$ mirJ.on to be lUCid b) IN:t p'ttn:ment rOf wbatCY« 1bey thi.nl fl«ti.q ry. N~foundla.11d will rece-ive 1377 milbon., !lo'cw 8ruM• k k SJS7 mllli<m. and cny own prO\•inoe of I"!I)VA Scotl~~o In Cllceill of $440 million.

Canorl hllnti Af(- fiWI&rt M the prolliDCCS • •hielt lli"C presently tn

~or such cquaTI1.iHion l»)'mcnts and those from 'l.'bich the fiiDI~ f<w lhCI!II p.1)'111Cill i lll'e dcJh'Cd, 11 ~hould be Mttd 11\li t tbese pr>Ovinc:a hllvc not rc1nalned the $8.MC tbrougiM.JUI I he h.inory of tqoalb.adon paymcnu.. Indeed. the- pnwince of Albem, ICI wh.cb .,..c now n:fer a5 1 have prt:A•inee. a11d wh<* potmtiaJ i~ "nlimitod, rc«I\'Cd c:qt~~aliutioo paymc:J~t& from 19.S7·S8 dltou,&b to 196' ·65 On the~ bat1d. Lhe pro,.;~ ol Nc.•iGUndtud, • hkh lw beat the recipient of pa)'ment$ .sUace 1957, ..,.., aJIPCI.D t.0 be dca 10 88 U"a. whKh I .. , cuuit: a lf l'lllembcn llopC' 10 be' a ratlay. ~ suclt ptymcna: IIDJ eo l~r be-~f)'.

No or:w., Mr. Spet~Ur , b e.pa.blc q/ prcdicti..g the future, but witb cqu•lintfOft pa)rnc:au Ca1t:.tdiaM rrom all Pill111 of tllis oounuy arc aunrod ot 11 rell~ldbk staltebrd of public 3erviecs .. ·i!bout im~IIIJiln vndt.lc: uu burde:n on iu. ruid~I\IJ., This notioJI or slutrin_t h;all bcocorlle a tradition in our ooontr}'. a 1mditio•11 that can be trucctl buc:k tq the orisinal goob and ideals of' the ~ltlh.:u of C<lf'lfodelllliOil, nnd it is l'l OOtiCln 1(1 whkh thjs party iul»c:ri~ whukheancdly.

So•e ltlla. Mt•k'Ni: Btlr. bear!

, ... COMMONS DEBATES Mut•t. l . t\Jit.l

Rsilw-ap M r. DJ••t wi .ll: M.r. Speaker. in o.lDtluJiofl I ~ish to quote:

one ol Orilain'• 8Je8l prime mln.istt11, Sit Wlmt(lt'l ChuR:hill, who i totod: 1'1!t ~lny of M•nldnd: I\ niol ;I~ by 1NI,!l41 <*111111\ll t -.,.. , Y.'Mot IIUI

'-11HIIIllift· oJn ' " ' "'~~'' ;,. t h& "'" ' Ill , , '"~ kun 11o111 " ' ~,. lflri~Wrr,.llill a._b , • ml lilt! wmnlri11 is aoifw. o. In $~«: alld 1lmt, 111of h)u..S •fUti! 111lif 1-.:, ~~~. •lw•h• .. , llkt le« i\01, $pdb 4lo4)'

Mr. Speaker, I belie-ve tlut, prior to the Quebec: referendum. and lhortl) ' tlwraflcr, members of tbb UOilk\ and [ndeed NftJ ol tbc rust ministen. made: a CIOmlnlttnenc 110t only to tk poopk ol Qud:ltt a.t indud to all (.)laadlaM witll rc.prd to COMCit.-aiond r~ Wt. U M~mkfl ol Pafliat~~ta~. oqllll10 .tritt millristorit opplrtve~~~ty 10 futnl o-r they to the. Cuadiaa people. Mr. Spcal er. I M~ tile time k IIOW.

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I'ROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

16"111&/lf SUIJI!C'r '-tATrER Of Ql!F,STION5 TO ltl': l)tlfiA'rEO

Tlw Aul.ec Sflt•tu- (1\t.r. Blaku ): ()nkr, ple~u. lt is my d lllt)'. pur:iUDitl 10 SUIIC!in&: 0..4« .CO. to ia(orM tbr House tb1t tk qN~lklnl to be raised tofti&ht a.t tk •"'- ol aciJ~~~~UR•'Iatt aft" u fOllow;>£ the Mo.. ~nember lor YM·Pal (\tr. Srcr· m~.)-(iow,...-.e•l Eapomlfitatc:$-Qftry mp:c1i111 incrcuc:t.! 1bc heM. mm.'lber for Comox·Ptwr;tl R1wtt (Mr, SkeUy)-Ua~rdou.s Su.bsuaces-tJra formakkbfdc f01m il'lwladOII-NOtin~uon of pcxcntlal bea.llb lllurd,

11 bein..t. tin: o'cloc'k. the HouK will now proortd 10 the con~ldert~tioo of prh•atc m«nbcn' buMnCM Ill lbcfd <K'I todl~··s Otdt r Pal)l:l', 1U1nt1y, public bUll. prh·11 1 ~ btiiJ 11nd notice~ of n.o-tiOn•.

PRIVATE M:tl\IBERS' PUBLIC BILLS

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ltAILWAl' ACf 1\~~1\o'Diol f,;NT RESI1lCTIX<l COli<Slli.UC'TIO"i Ot!CttAIN UNto.

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Mr. 0. M. Con~..e«t· (\'ork Ease) move<lt.hat Bill C·l27,to .amend tbe Railway Act (fcne«). be read the Jl(()()lfld lime 1111d ftferrW 10 tile Stllnding Co:mroiltec on Tn&l'l)potl .

Ne said: Mr. Spe:~ker, it is • ·itb Jreal pleuwre tl'lat I enter P'iYIIIt mcml::.ef'1' hour witb a bill or my own ... ·hl<lh I have ditc:tut~cd will\ the c:ritio or tbe Olbet p:utk•. t ho hon. member

(Of Vcgm·iUc (Mr. M1111111\ow~ki) v.·hc) i_n his brkr lemu"' "' mini$tcr or tra.nllport did • fil'lit t<lte job for the ~ounlry /ll!d witb whom I ha''C 51Uirtd l'll3n)' <:ti U.'Its in the-Thi.tti-.:th l':u ti~A ment <m the 3tul'ldh•• eommillec on tn,n.,p>rt :and t()mmllnl"'"' tions.. ond lbc offi..:ial crill-c of tbc New· Dc:moe-rulit; Pttl)', ~hi boo. •neruber for Rtlll\1 West (Mr. 8cnj3min) who l.-1 pmiJnl tOday a nd I think • ·Ill be p;aflicipnting rn the dcb3«:. I kJ~I'ft I have h.i$ appcoYaJ (or tbi:t bill The Ministe-r oi TfVituport tMr Ptpift) bllotrtWd me tb:U he Is qulk: ptcpa.red to allow thn tiUI to 10 forward to the StiiMhfll COIMliUCc Of! Tr;an$p0ft, Thk 1lliD cutk the r~t~t bl'lk lltal a ptM.tc lhCdJc:r .$ bill ~ "*' forward re thG hrha~t~ettt.

1t G TC.'I'J rare ror private .ncmbm-' bilb top w c:ommtUft, but to Ibis eue I fed my rnud~ riMk:atcd bccaUM I hAW .-orlted on t•u partlt•'-' m.uer $inct 1977. tl came: tboul I• rather trapc t"ittunlA.Inoc:t.. a.s a re10u:ll of the death or ~>~•c: of my ''try yovng ro~u.t hucnl,i, • s,irl t~amcd SaOOra Jt:n!!cn, w>'l.u in 1977 wtu bit b)' 1 Cal\ad i&n Pacirtc: Frc:iJJ)lt trai• In ~•)' ron:ttituCiiC)' or York F.IIMt.

My wnstiluc:IM!)' I ~ one or th.Oiie in metiVJlOiitan Tolo!lt•• whk h straddkJ the ()1)11 Valley system. We have tbc 11111h1 l!nd of both tile Ct11111<1lnu P..taflc Rt~l!way al)d Cut»dil111 1";acion.1l Railways The."' hiiYC bcecu m;any injuries 0\'Cr I hf put. but lbc: dcatb of yoon1 Sancfl'll JC(ISCO •-as pa_rtK,.I.trl.)' tragic. All a ~~ of rtpnsent:uiotl$ fuwn people in '"~ CIOCL1titiKOCY~iou,b bet JNm.t:s ud ~nemt:cn: ol tile C(lif• c:il ol the lkll boroufb ol Nonb Yort. • lliell is oow lk. C.IJ Gl North York-1 ~~ fOn'3rd dt;, biD ia ~bn. 19'11 ~ ;,; t.bc fint t•me thh biel, tllro.P the lottuy or th.t• S)'St<::m illlbc Houc ol c.cnou. 1m O)Q)C •P klr dcbltc.

I do not thntk I t-hcMIW bote the llo~ bu.t I bad m•"Y 1 battle over lbia bill • ith ttte fOfftk':r m.inisaer of uampo11. !lit' Hu n. Ouo L• ng. a nod 1~ prn:idenl oft he Canadia11 Traii~P•HI Commission, the l ion. Cdpr Bc:niOO. We lricd to (lOltlO h i some agrttltiCIII: it wat; oo 11~i11., off asain. I must pay lnbu1t l e} the prc$ent Mln l ~ter or 'l"rnn~I)Ufl ··h(l ha$ k ell (il lo u.ltltw this bill to ti-O to eom1nluco. /u I unlknstand it, tbcte will 1111 auppt)rt on. all aidc:ti iO permit that toda)'.

H;uically 11 is 11 va-y td•nrle bilL h is to rcqu1re thtl c!Wn-link. fc:tKi.Rf be. comu\lctcd alone tailqy riJhu-of·• ·lJ io u.tbatl attu t&pofl IM pclltl()ft ol a muAicipabty to lh• C.DOldian Trns90"I Commbtklft. The current JU.itqy A(t pt'O"idc:l <dy for fe.cint lft Aral areas bl:sicall)· des.l~ '" k«p O)OIIo:S off t$iilwaytrKb. ot tollrk. •~ do 11101 IN~ ..,.,_, o::r-'$ m mrtropohtaa TOf'OIIto. bllt t~ arc IIW1tJ' ratho.at liocs. M 1 MicL tbc mi• U~~a ol bott. major raiJwap. • Lbrou&,h m)' CIOI\Siih•C"ACJ, There iu lot of lr'eSpUSutJ 011 tt.'"" railwa)' righ~··W'1)'. Oldtr ))C(Iple can tAke c:arc of dw:tn .sc:h"~ they rut~ the Mk or lx-ina on 1.he tNicks. But th•-. 1>~11 3«k$ 10 JlfUI«1 1he S11ndu• Jc:nliCn' c,( metre)p()li tan Tu•~mhl .-nd an)' other urban •rcu where., despite warninss .-nd p:.tcn• al supetvlsion. )'OOJtj pfHdtool chUdrc:n wander {If' ' " \'Cl .,. bu.~y miJwaytruckJ,. Th~ particular troc:k bM 110me n.Jtoriccy becall3c ic 1!1 •I'W

same trac.k on wh!.:h t ht r.,n\011!4 <:btmical derailment oa:unc•J twQ )'C'ol>r5 a,a.o tn MiJi.IMilVp; it i:t the same: hnc. 1-ta•J lholl

7152 CO>OMONS D€11A TES Mt.tm J, 19$1

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the mwl'lic'ipttlitiel will s.b:ltt tbale ~U... but they 11111ll talc Oft the COfti ti"Uction or the feMe$ in a very limilod way.

0 1\ tllc tui.nUJ side, t.hc hon. n'lcrnber ro.. Bow Rh•cr (Mr. Tbylor) it quhc rigbt, the~~ will Ql}t'I)C OUI or I)I'Qf)erty t;uc.'-.

Thtu i:s tho hardest lll'a)' to raise public: re~nuc•, but 111 prh·atc mc:mbcra we: cannot lin,8tC:St t lmt th~; 11>\'ernmcnt pay for tomcthina doM tbrouJb a private me:mber'.t bill. In order to ~~ around tbat tdft~Jity t.bt hon. psrilantc:nal')' wcrt:wy f'(JC!Oft'l~ • 005t-JD&rio& procrus. .\pill. the bo.. manbu r~ Bow R.iYc:t is quite. ri&ht. this it • 1.011&)1 . .. , to rabc tu ..-.ry. TK cu)'Or ol .,. ..,. m.flki,.llly rarkd t ... tii!V"mioa wbca l .spote: 10 her.

Byatld l:&f'F. tiK blla~K~e acbievcd illtltlt bill is l(ll)li. There ;, • dii~XC ror mun.icipalities, the 1n0111 obicrvant a!Ml mos.t tc~itive ktttl or ~rncnt we h~~ tu ~ Ill the$e ~I)~

kmt tnd mu.ke appli~tions.. Tbe)' will apply volunl.arlly: t~y will Jll&rt tbc pi'OCC::Is llild in so d6ing k•~ thflt tit~)' will have tO f*)' lOOK Qf tllc <XJC~t, In turn, the rall road8 '<'·Ill be &ivcn j()f't'IO protection aDd some allevitulon or a dll ll$.<uous l)roblem. Ttlc reAclng In qucS'IiCln will flU) alon.a fllllb, M:llr .t<t.hoolll, nc:er J11tk bridle::& and so on. This d~ hM eall ror- tniles and mikj of fooccs ntJiai~ t.luou-&h our eid~.

nis it a &'OOCI idea. ~1'1. Spea.tet. Tk bill IC:I'fiau 1 aicc beb.ncc '- iu tteaunmt ol tht otllftle•l a.d lilc Pf'OCU$ cl JO"Cf'AintM. I wane to QQlllt,lfillaLite the .,.rt.,mmt;~ry

ICU«&tY.

Tilt Acd. S,...aktr (1\tt. Bb.kK): Is it the piCIIUI'C of thoe Houu IOidOpl tbe: motloa'!'

SoMe .o.._ Mtrnbtnl:: Agreed.

M041on u.Jf«d to, bill read the scco!Wl thno 1t1Ml rcfemxl to the S tanding Commiw.·e on Trusporc.

n e At"ci"C S,call.tr (M:r. Blakfr): The bon. ptrliamenllry iOCttt.er)' will ..,..,, to reeaU a lons•~otandlna tradJtioft. that wkn a prwatc memtM(J'$ bifl il ~~ on 10 committee tbe

IIIO'o'et olt ... l tliU u.ditiooallyolfentk C'bair a cipr. Sballl call ilsu. o'doct:?

At 5.52 p,m, lfle Hot~Se took rcccsa.

AFTER RECESS

GOVERN~tENl' OllOERS

1'l t& CONsnTUTI ON

A;f,.S()t,vrl()~ IUWI'ItcTING C.'U'4l)'l"t iV f l0:-i AC1', IM I

The flouK r~um•Od d~:-bate on the motion of Mr. C brtckn, 5erondcd by Mr Rubcrtj, (Of l•n Addms to Her Ma.)euy the Queen res-pt.<tin.& the Contdtution orC..n.acb.

And oa tbe atntndmau of Mr. Epp. ~by Mr lb\:cr Nepc~noCartc~)-'l'lul lllc '*"._ be alDCOdcd i• S«.bcd•k 8 of tile PfOP*'d raot\111011 by ...cuury dn~ te the ScflcdlJit CCII*QWtl!lbl tJM:re&o

Mr. Md CIM (M•IJIIq•): M.r. S9cUer. bel<n 1 COin•

mena sunidpalinaln ttlc O.>Mtiwlional ddlete I would lilce to thank aiJ tM mc-.mbc-:tt o( t.hc committee wbo tat IOn£, bbQri• ou:s hou.d. I • ·oold like espceially to tbank tbc- hoo. member ror Provcn,!Kr (Mr. Upp), who was; tile lot-3d« snd ca.rriro the discuss;ioM ror our Pllrt)'.

I am honoured to bo purticlpolina in 1>1te <Jl t he· fl)l)!ll imporUnt dcbutcll in the hlnory of lbc Canadian Pft tlinment, as • ·e oonsider a propJSIII by th~ fctleral ~-enm.cnt ta bti11t bome tbt Brhli:b Nonb Amui~ Act from the Hritil'h ~rli•· mcnl 11nd to et&tabll~b •llhio tbi:s oountr)' our ov.·n Constitution.

As a C.udiln rrom PruQ 13dw•td Ubad. I am eipedally proud o/ dte- plf1 •'I ~ Ole-U'I4ieq/CI(M(er;lcntiotl, hat: played in crqu•a••• Jlftll CO.WU'J' cl 011rs.. Wbik •e • 'Cte' IIOC. OIIC of d~ ori,;.n..l C'Oioftla • llldl f1nt joi.Jied COftledmu;o. in 1867, bbftdt:rs trc lndccd prolld tbou we holted the lim cooferQQC ill 1864.. Tt.c nll...c:Ltna ol the. tslud. to join.t tile ullion: of colon~ I H yc&u:t 1110 is, I think., ;~ n hisrork tDttbi(H' ol•:hy the provin«a lodll)' are rdot.tant to atcept the tcr~n>~ ul the coM,jtutionnl JI'Of"lt;&l' the rcdcta.l govtmmem ha~ plaood before us.

I btliC'I'C lhtre arc poraUCI3 wtli<:h cun be d rl .,.•n tk!tw;:cn l)rinoe Edw11rd b lii111CI'• t11ld the otber provin«s' rc<l llt~lt for aaroc<~ble terms II I"'ff '<'hic.h they could ct~ter oonftdert:tlon attd today's oons-tltutiooltl vc.ntu.m . ln Ul(l4 tbe people of Prince & hnilrd liland w«e u ubbornJy <1J!P0SCc1 to &i,•ina up their rigblS by beoomlna 11 .,..,.·i noe of CaDad:a. They .,.-ete>

·~ to any v.111011 • bidt ~w Stm'CilCkr to u ybocty ouuick: CU.rtouetoW~>a. chtw capital. COIIltrol <"tt the dometdt concetos of the bb.lld f'riMc- a;,ct.';lrd Island did ftOl wane. •• part.;~ uy ,,.ctip- o1 iu local fO'I'U'·

Jsbtldtu at that d~not were ~y. sdt•$attdcnl. s:ar~ •MI cunkn.t on tMir tntlc islud, At boch 1M Cltnlottttown a-lld Quebol: me~inJs in. lfl<i4 l.lhu*::n. ddpite theit avcr.diMl to uokln. l.istenro intently and a .. .rccd that the federation a( fill ttlc i:al(lnJot~ wtU dd lrable, pro\'ided lbe terms of the .nion could be sattsfnctury. IJut dcbute w;U oot tempting ttlough, The temu of onion did not prove • CQept.11ble to Prince l!dw~~r\1 hl.,ncl. hl11ndcrl tell tltat tlw tunu -wtrt unfair 10 the i~Jand , espocially tho!iC rcprdlna thdr fioa~ial atraogtmenu. The-y wartted the buylnt out or the ab j!Cot« l.andk)nJ~ ~r Prinoe

Matdtl. 1911 COMMONS DEBATES 71S3

ltdwnrd b.htnd, mos.1 of whom were in & al.lnd. They wattted that bu)•lna out for the beneli1 of the tenant flrmell'. 1'h~y w"nted fl 81lMilnlc:c: of oommunicatlotu wltb tbc: mainlo.nd. 1'h~ proposed intc:roobliaJ ruilway wn3 JIC:III for Nova &oda •nd New Btunswick but meant liuk to ltl1$dcll'. None o f 1 1~ lcrnl.'t were promi&c:d in t.hc r~utlon dr~-.n up l n. Q...eb« C1ay, dc:spitt" u..!t of punina «hem in.. 10 the- isl;and w• t<bcd and waittd, (la$$ina up 0011fedc:rulo" '" Ul67. I.Kit n'Cfttually ioln•tt& the cou.nuy ir'l 11'13 W'lkn tllrc time attme:d rip4.-.nd Oft their owo temu as. welL

AlnOIIII oUter QOIII(• S&C.. t.k clolftiftion .,a,..,. .. .trJIICCICI SIOOJ)OO 10 U.C: blaed for tile: PllfPOk ot bit,._, t~Ut tile tbitatc:e bJid Ga'Mr$. The b1UI4 f«:d.-.4 I Mlft cqu:iQ.· knt to 550 per bead of its p0sMbt11011, and • contlnuOll.t ~caun.tr Kn ice bdwem tbt i51ud aod the mait~llnd • ·as c•Ltbl~bcd a nd maintained.

Althovah Nova Scolia and New IJr•n&wkt joi!Wld eonftd · cractoft in t861,they 100 a,grccd to lbc u.nlon only v.•hc:n thc:Er tcrrn- ""'trc: 11~ to. The maritime. pri.Winoc.., thetl as oow, ""'llntcd 10 tiiSurc that the peculiar cconomlc ntcdJ ol th< real<ltl would bt provKSc:d for. They wanted 10 rctnln COf'll~ ~JYI!I' mauc:rs tbllt wouJd allow them to prcsdVC ch.ch b::al c:tllli'IC'Icrs and innltutiOI1t-

Todlly u v.c dQI wj(b the iswe or COMIItulloul P"lriation. Prince Ed•·a rd blaJ'Id atld tM other Pf'O"iliOCl eA. ftOC .-snt tc pvc up 01 be duWd tile riPu and tcrmJ ·~were •JniOd ~ , •• •"' ol ~'*""" 100 ycan aao ., t.lac lilac of eoafukntiofl. T'be failvc' cl the (eduU J:O'CRIM:al to a.&.ftC: •1t.b iU pll'tnUI. the pOtilw. ClCiftCIMti. ftMI way~. The leckral pc.-.~ne~~l il sccti.l!g ubhranty to attCJ 1ht tradirioftt l tclltion,hip be:t•eeA llle fe6era1 JO"'CrAII'IC':nl a..ct the pi"'W-' IM~Ct ll well ae l'llb$u.ntiaUy Ma.oce tJie nau•rc ol GUt de~ <'rat le inl!iluuons.

The Cons.tlnniotl k a public: $0clal oonti'IC1 whk h cmbol!i~ I he term, upon wlti~ Canadians agrocd to ll"f l(lll!thc:r in a sr lrlt or national community. 1t $Cl$ forw'atd the: ba' lc agrl!emt:JIU ror Con.adiam to live toee(her. Tbcte •arocmcnts m11st be IHrivcd at upon oon5ent. fot without 1111Ch content. thq' arc dc-pfh•c:d ol their own lc&himaey. The prof:liem (acln.a Canad:. is cMCnlblly • pi"'ttkm or avceina Oft tcrn~t • hkh will pnmit C.n.adiltiS to live in a state of batme)n)' •h• one: afiCKha. . ,,. ...

C._. is • fcdctaOO. et bod11 Pf'Q'i.cct ud a fcdenl JO'I"'Cf'l'llmcftl ud was dcS11p:d by tk Fathrn ~ Coafodcnlioo 111 t.bd •ay. in lite bowk:dcc that ow- ... ,... would ~ impoJSib1c: to IO"Ct ll as a u.nicary mt.e.. We 1.r11 alio 1 toufttry o( rctions. proud O( Okr indi,•iduJ U1.d:iti0111 but a1i0 o( OUI" kn~e or n1hoMI c.omrnu.n.ity,

In a country as di\•crse u ours., Mr. Spcoker. there always bavc been and will eontin~te 1~ be politkal tttltlons bct•-otn cer1ain n:a,ioM and the fedl!n\1 go~·ertunctu. Thl ~ I• iMioCIIpablc bt~u~c: Can~dians have. OOth loyally IC, tbc- lc:tb'l In wbl<:h they live and to the C()Untry .as • whole. Tbctc tcnlllon~ ut)IJ eonecrm wh.eh bc:Jiq.e us den1and t.he M<~Mry polilital QOmptomhn. Thc:re U absolutely no betlhat'on or doubc il!l the:

Tlu Co-nftNtio" m:imb of C.-nadianl 1J!ll the CoiiiStilull(llll should be ~Ur qwn, paMCd b)' 01.1r 0""'" Parlllln•cnt und r~tin& jn ~r O"''n ooontry. But .,.,.e do m)! w~ant !he (c:dc.ral ji;O'I'Cmmc:nt to act unilalcf'lllly oo lbi3 n1a1ter wilb &uch (ar•reachill,& impli<::t tiQn:s atteain~ 11ll provinces.

We hope the cris.i¥ tnd narmoil ctn«ated by tbe federa l IU\'erftmellt ud iu QOIIIthudonal ~l'l will help all or'" focus oc our vision or C.n~da al'lld wholl we ll<lCd to make this a bttter country We 1I(Jpc we <:all wart ~ to btlild a ntw <AnMic100. ol •llit• we caa be pnllld; a Coo:stiu.Uoa , .. , ptOUCU ow ind,....l ..... wltaral •llliql~ piOritlcial ~and u.tfou.l pocmtial.

().,- aatiootl ~Milll-. ~CJ~tl! IS tbt Sc:atte ud lJie S11prcme Coart. txat ~JilnJ. The divisicwl ol powas be.twotfl po'l'inc:i&J aDd ftdcr•l ao-'enunenu. MOds 10 be c\arifiod.. Our iDd:i,·idl:l&l ri,hll could be btlter proiCII!tcd. AU •·c requite: tsa ~i11cerc: d1!$ire 11nd a process throucb which 111e Clttl w0t1c •o~tbc:t IO't''ltd •hee~c OCM'llnloOfl SQib. Ouowa •lone u, oo richt to amend hur Consthutloo whiW)Qt tbe· ll.&'l':l.'1nttlt ol thc proYiDCiallctr.illlaturell.

My ma.ior obj~tiOf'l IQ the 1')\'ern.ment's- pi'Qpo!lil lll it the man.ocr ill wbicb the federal aove-mmeot is acting alone to pe:n'lla.no:ndy c.h:an&c the ""turc of Canada. oY«ridi• a tiN wi:lbC$ of fOOIJl o( lbC ptOY\I)CCll aad O( the: YILU m;ajonty U( CaJWtians. To ptoeccd I• Iliac m;;JIIflrter fifopoM!d iCJIOC'CI U.C ~ \'Oked: by lk ptO'ri.:iaJ CO"ffUUCC'LU. Wbt WC N"':" before • • a kadct «a reabW pclitbl party tntll only tqjou.l Jqwatt~&atloe I• Plrli&mmt ~ •aiateraUJ, U atMllded COIUtitvtioft tbt will dla.. die suut'Uite ud buis o( ooofedcralion.

Pcopic hiVC: joirted tOJ(tbct ill COIIfakration .110 t.bc)' •'OIIIld have OOflllloJ OYer a common d«tiny No-· cbe fCikral covem· mtot. uni1111erally. i• llUC.mptlnc 10 take a•·ay that .s-pith or t:Om.promi:sc 1111d ai\Artl\1 wblth built oonrcdcnti(ltl, o!WS i.mpose it$ eonll'(ll 0\'C!t uur dcsliny. Confederation hu 111orkcd (or C~~.nada for Ill )'eli.nt, CcrcalllJy it h:u had i~.t problcnt$, ltt w ai.ns and lu 'Cil:do.•. but h ho~s allo.,..·CIJ Canadiat\1 the oppi)ftunity to build (lf'le ur the atrooacsl. most indcpcndc:nl ~nd rceat col.lntriQ tn the world. One ml.&.ht j.n.irtab!y Y<1)!\der t.o-· kin& t.bc pf'OPO'Cd Mw C.n;~dio~n Con$tilutioo wouJd be. able 10 maifltatn th.llt ' u11c.

I wu totntWh:u encov,.JCCI -.hm tlrle ~· lt<ltp&ccl dunp:$ to tk pn:lllOMd •••lie& fotwlttb.. Uodtr t.t.e ori&iul ~utioal pa<lqc. two auntimc: PYfiuca fonniq 30 Pt:f ecot ol tht popu.la.tlon ol ,,_ reciort were ltCCdc:d to bwod~~C~e dut~&cs lo tile Collititlltion. lkuuse o( lite lsb:nct•a small popu.latioll. tbit 'frrOI.IId ... ,,. kft u:s •••bout ~ ''Oicc.. &nd •oukl Mve tlitnittattd l"ra~M~C Edward lscland from CYtr bavinl a Nf in Ol)n~tit11tional mauc:n . The ame:n!Sod proiX'I'III would requitctbe approval or any 1wo 1\tlllnlic: pt'ovinces. enabling tbc b!A;nd lO 1ulil.(' .,.,.ilh ;11 ny othc.r Athantk: province to introduce chancca, pc:rm.ittint. Prince Ed.,.,·ard bln•Ml to ha~e. a ,'(like- in O(icn&titu· lionaJ dccition rnaklna.

Howc'J'Cr. t.his O.mettdntent to eh~ con~titutic.loal puc;lr.ea.e, aJoft8 wilh the other•, k ju!lt o marainal i.mpro¥eme~~l: Sll.gaf On the pill, so to spenk. The c;onc:esslo~t~ are not e:nouah. Prince

TAt- CtHUIInuiott

Ed..,.ord hl~nd Wil$ trc;~tcd b.1dJy the firn time "!Mkr the nn•c•Mtin1 formula. Then t!M formula ,.'), cbanJcd to 1rc.11 Prince Edonrd M~u1d lfke the otber pt'O'finccll, 110 ~~~~ rind il hflrd 10 reel that w~ .should be t tem illly aratcl'ut.

A nw~h t•W)te fair formula rot Prin" P..dl'"ttd IJio.nod. the Olher prO'·inccs tmd for :lll of C;~nado it the Vn~vcr for· mul~. one -.reed to by aiJ I~ p1Vt.'inoeJ 111)(1 tbe federal ~~'frn~nl , bllt one on 'A'bi.cb the Prime M1ndltr (Mr. Tru~ dcau) bn re-fucd to J~Cl. Under the Vanoou''" formula. con~IHihOftl) dlall&C WOilld rcq•ire lhe IPJWO''I) of Parlia• IIW:IIl •od JD'Y;Q proriiiCeS lhtl:.i-c llP JO P« CMI. o( tbe pop&btJOe ol C&Md.a./Ur! popOiCd t'haqa to lk: Comait. .. tioll wouW: theft proct(:d IO:Ofdina to tN fom~•b.. s.c• a forfll•b WOilld ~ Prtoa ~rd bbad .. d 011kr prvo-I.~M!!!:S willl.mall popvlatiofts some. role la cO"-'tCduuon~l maurn.

Let me aivc you an tumpk. Suppok tb PfOVInca ~o."'ntpris..tniJ .so pc.t t ent or the: populaltrul or Clnll4a 11.11C:C 10 a CXM'Ittillnti>r~;&l cb~u.te but d'acy require tbl: upptovo.l or n &e•· .:nth provirKc. in e:Jpedive 41 hs population. Pllncc &Jward h l:1nd oould be thac SC\'eoth pn.winoc.

I 111n flOC 3U8ie5dng tb~t Canada. shovld tu.IIOI'-Itlake it5 ComtltutiM to meet the pun icular drcuntto1t nOcS of !)rlnot l;dwnrd l~>l and. 01· of any olher scinak pN.,.InC-e.. I am liiYif\1.

~~.h. ll\1!1 whaiC\'a fom•ulla ls 1dop1('d, h ;hould 1101 be •111fatr to any pr~ince, Tbcrdore.. tbt Va.lliOOII,'Cf (orm•la is iltrmhdy bdtc tliiUI tk; modifJCd ViaON charter,

8dore I la•oc: tlis ctucstaoa ol tht ._.,., form..._ I ••td hl.c to ..akc: a <lOIIIR'Ieot (1)MltiM*I the 0111« pan of tbt at~Kndtq; (OfliMIIa ~l: tbt is.. tile: rc(r:t~m. The.., Jmcl'ld•"' formula is tlte tnOM ~"A"I'(Md p)rt ot tile co~ahhl4

tloul pto~l b«:::.use of Oc referendum kka. Thro~t&b h. 0 Uli \OIIt could impose OOni t itutionaJ cbanta by rtfc:ttndun1, Oy CU!IIrollintc the ndes or tbe rc:fercndun1 and i pef\odina llu&l:" 8.1'1'1041111.' uf lld\•t rtillin,g. doll:us. as it hat been knO"a'll 10 do, lhcf«fcrol jJO'I'ernrncnt ~ould m:·mipt~ late tbe rC'J IIItt. S11ch action d\&111.111"~ federalism and \1 ndcrmin~ liiiJ Bttempl tu 1).1ild par1ncr~hir in thill oounuy. Any rc:reren .. ~ to IIM: u&e of o rdere~um ~hould be dele.t.ed frM\ atl)' C&n11dl11n Coni liiU· lion.

We are • lartc Bat ion; w~ M~'t some d•fterc.nt v1lua aDd bdte(i I• dLfrettat rcp.s ud prorl'iiiOci. We llecd lo haw t011ne I)I'OieetiOft.. Tht proposed ,..., method• Q/ aJIIC:Gdiq: 011r COMtll•tioo arc ,Nmpy ftOl ~blc bc:a•• ,...,.-do .at "'"''*• ••till tbt proc.c:aion • e IIN'fC hA·vc.

Tbc:re .-ere • n-umber of poposcd tmc.-chntn&s 10 the jOiN. rc~'*ti011 on the- CO'Miitutioo wlnch. lll.c Proctcto:Mft: Comava· tio;e l)!&rty prtscntcd to the s pecial joint CIOII"'nthtee. \Nt 111 ftich "''ere rejected by 1hc: Libt:ral and Ne..-· Ocmocnn..: parties, There arc fOt.lr or these Pf.Up(!!!itd nmcndmen~ .,.,bk h I f«:l .-cry a:ttonj.ly a bout n1Mi \••ould like to mt:ntlon, M()lll upsc:uing 1(1 nle u•Mt tu mnny C;"tn:u!i!ws is 11\c fact thAt tiMl federal JO\·.:rnnM:nt has denied the wpren~acy of O od in ittl Cu.utitu· lion. h hra.• I'Cjtttcd the. PloirCSSi\'C Conw:n·ll tl,·e proposed amendment whit'h re:~cb as foiJO\\S4

Mudl J, 1931

~ U..t lk l;aMd ... .. 11(111 it(.,......,.. •fl')ll ptindplcs !Nt ad•-led ..

t ile ~~~~(:) ., a .... .... <lltnll, ud -l~ l>f '"" '*tlllol• pc,_ ... , '"" p..¥1.i)no/ 111~ tamoly• • ..WI)' llllfet ,.,._!Ciwh u ol fto: o~Whll~t,

Aff" "'"' , ...,.. , .. , iodo~ ..... •lt •MwoJIIII"'" l"'f-llt frc<Jonly• to.n fr<enli!m 0. to.~ ~n NSf!oKt (l}r lllO!!~IIIIId -llf!lm-..1 \ ";J!\OQ uol ~ tll!~ of ~,..,

TM Fnlbtti of Confcdcrnllon. over 100 yc::ml ago, roooa· niled the f~o~ndan.e•Ufl l fllcl ()( lhot i upremacy ()I (;l)d in llw affain or men u!MI nntloo&, a& the 8()Urte rrom • ·b ich ell hum~n righti and ju1tk:c III'C dcri,'Cd. Tocl~y. t lti~ fact .obould OOII!tinue to be f'OCOS.IIbod . Why '" btll'tl)s IWilC ,...,.~td 1)1e

l..ibtnk alld NOP hOC .-...t 1 rcfermoe t0 God il'l tbe CoMel· tutioo? I am rcorM., kucn rroe OOIUlittal$ ot m.iM COIII· pb.iJtiq atx:J.t I~ (ia thcrt n. no mc:ntioll of lbt AIJ~t<'f'MCY .,t Ood m* eo.sut~eto..

'ne ft:dcti.J ~nunau bu abo rc)Cdcd lk Pro(ve.uift Con$crqliw ptopouJ t~l:

tou )'Mo< Jw; !M ndlc 10 ""'"'-Ilk~,.'" iort. ..... riowl ifiiM ~f!( ;JIIY i11~1jtu1iun ~ •l't ..,.,..,.,_nl.

We \\lal1t to eJUbrlnc the ritht of f r.:cdonl of iarormotion in l.he (:on.uitutloR ot Ct~nud.ll. Freedom uf in f<.rin:ttion is the \'ehicle by wb tth Cnnlldillnl obtillil the right to tnform:·••ian, We. want touc that ri#J•tllsscrlcd in 1ht Constitution.

Nothing in the Conlltitutton •hoold affect tb~ aut-l•onl)' (J( P.o~.rliamcnt to k lllibtc In re5"pccl of ab<llflion ~nd copit11l punisllmu~t . The (ode"l go;.~'Wifll('tl\ has rejotl.~o.'d thb: Jln)

p:~SaL Wilhout ~~b a clutc. it .. po:u.ibk tbat the S...-pre.~M Cou:n 431 Caaadl 0011W <W«ru.le PArliament ln eases coeoe,... iq J bortioa Uld capital p.auil~nteL I• 110 ~Y shou.Jd tliK be abed to UJ~PP. I bd.n"C oo that ,..., t:s.s.c:J !llklnbcn ol PulWDeat.. -. the S.pm~~t O:Mut.. siloukl ~ tk fiul •1 so t&at lhe ~ aiiCt ~ ol tllcir corastitve•U m;t) bcrttlected. By r~in1 tbc PC pro~. tilt (edCTal puoment • ill be allowil\l the ~i.bllity that t he cl)urts could indeed be a:uprem.: O'iCf Pu.r11.1mc:nt.. We tn the: PrvtrQHvC Con.<~«vath·c P1r1y, a"d tlw: people or C.nada du noc ... am tl'llt.

T bt federal a,oYocnmwflt llllll vot~CCI .aa;•ins-t the Prosrc:!ilM'Ve Coll$cno:ttit.'i: pto.li)Oii!l l whk h 'llo'OOht d orify in our CooMitutkwl Lh31 H~t M"j d t)' tho Qvccn b I he be:~.d of sune q( O..nru!!l atld the ptO\•incc:~.

··-~·et the yun tbc (oclotral tpYe.mmenJ tw anempccd 10 «d.cc tbe role- oltbc tnoMtchy aad sub5tit•te iD tatm ot the U&tCIS of 1he <)uoe11 tbal ift (ad IM head of SUI1C is fMlll Iter Majesty. but rathtf tht (jo,Cf110r (inlltfti. We i a the P'recJO" $1\-e Coiii$Crvatroc- P•rtt arc COIK'Crtted that. Ca.uda «m:llll •

C'OftMitutioMIIJIOI')rdli_), We brl'"c '*'proposed amcectmcnc lii'OUtd COI'I:Stitiit~ 1wch • I IQIJI.ftt«. By RJC'."tiC! oar ptopcul. Ute fc:dctlll p~rnmc.nt it f11Mit.tnog lu aucmJl'IS 10 k~Mil tbt r~c: of tbc monan:h1 in CaRada, • rncwt: feared by mllf\Y Cun~dunll 'llo'bo wont tu re111l11 C•nada"$ fl«it:'lgeo, 'llobo -.·ant to retain the ~;.Qn!llitutlotl u.l monarch)' .

The pr•>~cd <:h1mer ol riaht~ is oomprW::d ~>f many !tee. lions. all ol w'hicl• are of vilul lmj)Ott.ancc to 1hc f11 111n: wcllbtin,Q. of thii ~olln l r)l. l would like tQ focus on tlwo sccclon ooocernio.g J'lfOptrty riJhtf. Ma.Ry people .:ttnl4 to Canad11

March J .• l 981 COMMONS DEBATES 78SS

bot.::•u3e they drt:tuntd of und <:ht:ri$hcd t he tbuught t1f OV~l1ins theiJ o.,.·n 1\lnd. Our part)' supported tbe inc;lusion of ~n :·tnl.CDCf,nent indicating tltat everyone ba.s tbe. tiglu to e-njoymen' of prOperty, On th" i.ss~Jc, Prince Edw:.1rd J.slllnd h:l.~ supported the federal gO"-crrunent's position "''it.h 300<1 rca&an, but I \'13nt to n'lake it perfectly detlt that the. g<Wernmtnt of Prinee l':dv.·:mJ (sl;mcl i$ n1>1 11~ii\S1 pcc)pk QW1ling o~nd enjoy· ing. propeny. The main OOtltem of (slanders is that property on l'rinct F.dwtlrd Island ~long, t(l resldenu {)( Princt Edward bland.

Prince &!ward Island is small aM dependc111 M its Land. We ~·<'11\lc <.lUr l;md higbly, u.s it is the m<.tSI imporn'"' ()f '"'' few natural resourocs. In the put we bave enoouncercd a ,.,,rkty ~'' pr<>bkm.:~ •·hen: ov.·oersh.ip of ovr bod bu.s been oonoerned. For n1ore than 100 )'C31'$ we have been vulnerable 10 m:wive instances of absentct ltlndlor'd.i~·•n. ht 1'767. jX!tocls of 14lod On Prince. 13.dward M,.,nd, whK:h wu!i thtn SI. John hland. were louericd orr and tbc scandalou.s S)'$lCftl of tc.ou r~. .... ·hich htls so -apdy been C3IIOO absentee. proprictonhip or abs.<:nte~ l;mdl<.lrdism, wus foisled lltH.m lbe )'(ll.lllS colony, dcstinocd 10 duouk tbe Island's progress for over 100 )'e.tt$ and tu O()lout tJ~ $rtattr part of bland polltks. ltlnd proptietors neg:loeted t he tenns unde~ whitb the)' had r«civ..:d tb..:lr !<)Ill. .!ltld oone of the conditions by v.'hi-cb gr-ancocs were to settle lbtlr ten.:wt! on tlu:ir 2(),()()() :1Crt tou within ten )'cats btld been adhered to. In 1797, JO )'t:af';S later. 2J of tbe 6 7 l~s were stiiJ complclcly ct~lpt)' of sttdm . .since. the majority of the propriet(n H:!iidcd in (j~;~~t Britain, &Omt lnl"llls hilc• ~lrc:1dy been pre-empcod b)' squauers whose oocupancy bad no standing in la..,.•. Because: ptoprict\M"$ had been pcrnlittcd to c;ocape their <tuil rent OOii.aations. th-e i.sl.1n<.I &O\'efnment bud ,·irtu2lly no CC'o'tnue for imprO\'cment projcet.s. lsol:uion. tenantr)', fu.rming little. above subsis1cnot le,-cl, a.nd absentee laodl«· dism wen: lbc insri!(li..:nt$ of rc.ll di:scxmt..:nl. Ten~nl (armcn suuggled to ex1ricate tbcrnsch·cs rrom tbeir peasant-like statu.s and gatn pMsts..<~ion of the rw:lds the~· plo1J8hed, 1ioudsbcd and reap«!. 1t wa.s n<.lt unlil 137S, however. two )'C<J.N aner Pri_ncc Edw-atd fsl-and joined Canada. that the. tenants tribul.a tion aune te~ :1~1 et1d. The crnnpubory l:md pureh:u:e act was P~tssed. aod tbe produdive rt'd &aiJ of Prince Edwaro hl.1nd Pl!::l~d

into the OV.'DCnbip of those who tilled it.

tndivjduul:s 11nd in1.h.ast.ries are free to oome to tbc islaOO, buy bnd and establish i.n<lust.t~s.. but 'A't do not ""'al\1 people from uw~y buying our land -and C.)ntroll ing: it fo.r meri.' spceuJattoft, oor do "''e WiJIH our prime airicultund land .wl<.l (Qr pur~d 01hcr than agriculcure. The prO'o·incial &O''trnn1ent rightly f..:t~n:d th:ll the pr<lpi).kd con~lilutioo-al fe:11ure ensuti11.S, the freedom of propeny riahl.s would prcvC:llt ptO\'in<:C$ from ltgh.~ lath~ in arc-as ol propt-rty rights. tslanckn •·ere oooocrncd whe:tbtr d1ey would hil\'t the right tU er1~un: th:u their land was not bc:ld by pcx.lJ!Ic (rom oul of the province wb1> wero n(>l thei"C to taJ;e ad~'ftntage of it and 10 ensute that Meal people wer.: nQt de-prln-d <tl their prOperty rig.hlfl witl)in their prO'/· iDCe:. Prioce 13dward Island "''ants to be able to cominue kgisl.:n ing its O>A'O property rig.hts: it does not ••ant provindal kghsl~t;on 00 oon~rdtdent o.wnershlp o( l0111d rendered null ~nd

Tltl' (.(Hutitutim l

\ 'Otd by A tiJiuile in a Cana<h:l.n ("QuStilutlon, 1$pcc-ialty a con«ilution su~ as the one being proposed by Lh<> (cd.:-ral go.,unmenL

1'he federtl l t,Mertunent k succeeding in pcO'o-olini bitter divi$ioot> within the O()tlnlry. Its t~Clio!$ att divisive. lt ill entrenching biuernt'SS as opposed to rishtll. Th~ cPm1n1SUS of Canadi-Ans to li\'C togcthct was founded oo the prin~;ipks of cooscnl and ~itjQil <..'Qmp«.~rni$c.. The-gn:at genius <Of Canadi· an~ has be<:u our ability to rcac:h t.he nCQCSsaty bu.rz:•io~ M th:u we <:.,n live. h)!,i:thtr a$ one people.

AooordinaJ)', 01JJ Constitution mulll embody 11 prooess whkh will continue to renew political oonscnsus, not•·ith$tanding dramatic .$0Ciill uaosfl>!'mottions and rt....:urrin! eoot~omic and IXIIitical erises. Unronunatcly, tbc fed<:1\l.l gQ'Voerntntnt'$ ~ppmach to this ilsue hall widcMd tbc already c,,nauoos divisions that c-xi.st in po,ru. ol C\\n11da. Thi~ C(Jnli"li tulion~l exercille sho:~old be an opponun.ity for .oil Conadilnt> 10 renew tbem~h·es a nd their pride in tlltir ooumry. but illS-tead it is dividing them. The li.x\ltion of t))c Prime Miniuer wilh pat rill· tion U ~':"!using n10rt di ~·ision aDd more tension. The Prime Minister's awu.n:nt .h~stc in bringing: tbe CMr>titution home to Canadtl on his terms is u.nne-ccssar)· and very d:unaging.. What \1\'t· are !lt>fldint to Wesuninstcr is widc:-tan8illi aMI tl'undJ~mell> tal constitllti-l.lnlll eh;engt-~ nut tnctcly a mil'lot c:bange in administracive jurisdidion. h is oot 01 n,1111ter that can be (If $bl.lukl be-dca.ll V~ ith hutity.

The present lkliberatioP (lvu the; oonstitutioo wiU affect the (t1.1uew0t'k of Canad.s for m~ny )'CIHl t(l come. The- fcder.tl gQ'I't:rnmcnl'$ :m1e•wllt•enLS arc not a«c-ptable to mocst C1Jno1di· ans. 1r the fcdual a_nd pnJvindal {t<lv~rtlment~ cartnot agree. immcdi:ttd)·, then I ca.n see nothing wrong in simply le;~,·inJ the Constitution al<.lnt until :sattttnertt is tctlc:bt:d. h has servtd us (M'Ctt)' well for ll 3 )'CQN Md surd)· •·c-need not rush int<t ill--<:btl.iiducd change~. A twcacicth cen.tu.ry Coo~litution must provide tlle fT~Jmcw<M"k fC)r a 1ne-;1ning.fuJ new national economie policy. 1t bears directly on Cun;1d;a·$ (uuue as Qfle $.lrl)ng and utlltod natton. An vflwise decision C<M.~ld Cllll$e pcnmnent rqioo;al alieu.,t-ion a nd diss.cnt. Jt is a. slo-a• and labofious process. requiring per&everilncc and endurance: it CiJIIIIOI ~hurried.

I vooold like lo read a 31;Uemcnt 'viced some years ago by Setl!ltor Et~genc-Forst)' v<bieb expressed the viewtb111 oonstitu• tionnl ddibl:n~lion.~ :u~ of ''i tal ln'lporu l'lce to t.bi.s nntioo and cannot be dcah •·ith in h$11:. He ~id:

'flw r;,.,, llo;,.,k t.otl we: " "'" ~~ d eat k \bolt <lllr ~isunr C0R$1iUitiorl tJ t O\ 1 pi«ecr olil (utnitlltt, Ql' J n 111cS lill• lo~el, ()o a VIOO)riAA ')'1~11"1 (r( pluml:n~~&. lt is -«lllall wb!ch ~~ .. 01.1\ or 111~ nu.ls o( 1hc rn~l.'l'(<ilcn1il)• ~kltl!ts, wtuclo "-'''~~,.. lit< 11:1111 pco:~f!Ci:, .. bleb b~ulaf)(d our nrus 1 ~lr. tollim h~:Ocb5Jt~d i!W( t"Wt \lk,Pt nco6ol iH • ~e. lt 11&£ 1110)1 ttonAllled Wl»t il. ,.~,in 1167, h hu II:N"'"· i11 tOme r"pwc' '!"'""' o•* l)l dl ~"iliOfl: • lil.otk by &:.nnal ~mt111. much ~· judkud ir.I«PI'Uitioc. ~~ ~ ,u, rc:fJ.:o~. b)' th:: dco~..,...enl of- ht lti". M .. -. lit"' (l)twt'lllionS. _., IHimini)ln.)i"'' •nucrmw~,..~lly lnl~•·eo'l'<rnma~utorUIItemtfllj._ ~rNps h 110• flftd$ (uflhet f'«lll.tl .-.J.duwwt. But k l li¥ ..,.."' fclrtd. l!ltl, brn:luK • Cl"ltn\luwnb "'h:ll il il., fit""'"'',_ ud sll.l~oc ~he· liol!t' <:( cv.rt)' ll•mtn :tlo:l"t i11 tko: ~tQI~II"ily, ctR.,Pi it by (<ltlllal •m:odlllrn• k u imol-ty JUiOI!$ tminua. 1! IS tO! liltO.Jel\i"i 11 •• b~il--411. (If ~in~j: a b<•..t. or b11)'iq: lit'.,. llanllt1<~ or u:« l!kllla. 01 p~•dll& i11 a new IN•llroom, h ;, "'im: n e fiUnriA$C-'* tk ....er<k ill lh~ At @.lieto tn~f ~. ~ by any 10 ~ ("ill!f'ri,.:d, .,;;, ~ken in

71$6 COM~tONS DEBATES MatCh l. 1911

TM COIUtitvliOft .. 1111 • .,..,.,_.,well). lilltnlt. or """lOfll)' ••• Wl re'l"l«'nlb, ""~· acltlwclly. IIIOIIerl). •ad l11 lie ltet {If G!wS.- Whu •t lltf 4,_11111 •h• • COMolil .. tkiMI <11-111' 1, 11(11 .,.fl<, "'thiflt.lo ;, ;, lmmUI &.u

Some drn~ aso I 'Ill';,~ cbeck.ing lbrougb • tot~ llbrury IQ find the dcrlvntion of I be word "Canada". Aeoordlnt 10 the inrOf· n11uion I ri!Cdvcd, Canada derived (rom th"' 11unln·l!roquois word .. K11nnta" which melltl~ 11 'filhiiC or cornmunily. C11R:1d:l it '"u<:h roote than a village. Canada is mud! mote than a land mal!l colt.iluing of the Mtthtrn halC o( the NOrt.h AmcriC:tn oonatnenc Can~<b i:s the people that inb.abil tlm &rnt bnd mM rr0111 the: All:uuic Ooeu to the Pdte Ocata and from t~ At('tie O!."U1l to tk Gre:.t l..l.ta.. C.ucb b lk •nitMc uct Ufllntiom of all tbc:$e pcopk. TliD Caaailfa ol 011rs is; bcf-a dft.idtd br tllt way Ott Pn..e h-h•d•c:r k ,,.,,_,to .t.bowtbit mohtt.ton lhnM~!}t t&.is tloulc ud ram hr~ ilku clow'ft oa:r throell to pun.e Ills tlmcubk. . '""'

J would Jike 10 quote Crom an allick in rltt CVttun, i t bting • p.olpC"t lbfll d oeS 1'1()1 lllwa)11 ro11ow Ql.ll:lc:fVII,IiV~ ptloh<:i~. Moro ofiCI\ th~n 001 il is quite rrm:Mnubly dlli~Cd to •he l>l(!lttll tovernmcnt and the: present Prhne Minister. I .,..·ould like tl> quote (ron• a ool.umn 'o'lfittcfl by l illtl l lu.nh:r, dllltlin~ Vanc:ou.,.c:r. und publis-tlc:d Oil February 20. 193 I, '""'• M+ll- Trudcn Hm•n*' T'-nd41 k • *'ldllll C ...... d•u• lltt ~ lMIIUiiiii~J-itM-1 t~

llf\...,. t.lnJIIblollit,. k oA:tb ............ "'-~ 1111 ,_. ii.....W.nliq. • ,,..,. •• toiW _.. diu 210 c~ libtnl ~ lwft IIUl ildw

_, llndJ ..... ''"' - ,. ,_, ---.. Wol ~ .. -- • f'IIU\* lk CMMMM-.. •OU • _ _... cM• f/1 ,.,. ..... loil. W• ....... _._.,. ., .... ,..,. .. _,_.,.~,_.......,.,..

s-t ..._ M,.llc# Slaa.tm'

Mr. Cut: Shame, inc:iccd. Wbc:n I read I bole: line:~ I nicd to n1ur~ 01;11 what t)'pc of a man if kadjnathiJ oountry. a mu v.•ho can stand !lnd llty be is uJnlar:. ted when he ill dn•i<ling our eounlry.

A conscitutioo should be 11 source o( pride 1u.d B u:nlfying inOucnc.: within !I politk:d ;:<Immunity. lt. con~tiwcion •hOul<l ~and cu.n be:., il the fedc:ral p ·c:rnmenl will rc-alile i.l.t foiJy 1nd cu•l'lc to ils sc-Jlsc:s. a S)'rtlbol or 001 8001~ty's d~mocracy tnd an obj«t ol n:~ti(lnal pride for cgch 111\d every Cu~Ydjou•.

So• t- lliH. Mfc•Mrs: Hear. hc:att

Mr. Ncil , • .,..~~~, (lkadtts}e Mr Spetbr, I .-dcome this opport•M) to jod ia Ws historic deblk: oo tilt pt'OpOiSCd (;oMutudOII ud tK dwta ol n&)u for CaOIICIA~~~o.

Slftoe I c:.1nc: We. folkrwinJ tile I~ (:kaion ctmf"..icno th«-c .ht\~ beta ''ery few maum: (.'I()IMC: before thil House: • 'hiC'h luvc &m.:at~ded lll:!.t •-c KJ addo 011r 1)1111itoan pobhcal \IC:V.'J ift faYOUr of tlle importance ol tbe COIII\I ry. In my view, t hll 1nll lltr presents oDe of tbose few CM.U•Iont. 11 Is a matter Of lll~h ilnpottllnCi! ltl tbc ruture (,(our <lQIIAi t)' thll l h ri.sel tbO\'<l partisan pGiitics. and it $hoold be dcblllod In I hut light.

T luuutll!Out tlt-t past )'tar the Ne•• ~lti<IC'filt le ra .. ty has taken nn IIPIIIOUch le) thi~ dcb;llc wtlkh, in my vi~:W, hru. been botl'l (IOftCiliatory and ~rativc. A& 11 C.tllldUin l am proud

of that fa('t. AJ a member olt.he New Democratic Pt rt)' I am al~ proud of tllc rote my leader 'hu played iR tll~ 6cbatc Oft CQflslitulioNI rc.ri>fm, I 111n ah(J Pf'"'d al OOf pllrly'' tWCJ members who ~~~:n·cd on the joint oommiuee. tbe bon. membe1 foc YOfkton·Mc:lvfllc (Mr. Nymom) Bnod tbc boo. member (o• 6umat>y (.Mr. Roblnllt)!l). 'f'l,c;y J,.)tb v.·qrked CAtrtl1ldy kw!& :tlld hard 011 thb m~Kh·'mpro~cd constitutional padtage,

~"" """· (\le•kn: llc;ar, hc;ar!

Mr. V0t1.,: I bclin't l.he approo.cb taU:a by the New l)ell')IOI;f'abc Part1 llti bcclll a CIIRdtuctM oae. I abo bri1C¥1 tltcre are a .,m., ••rabet ol CaNCIU wbo ...,. W •IR'l wiU; .--. lllil q.-loa.. llo-'n'ct. I Uso tCO'II•ile Oat t.h dcblcc bu beat ao cmocioMJ ~a. IOdccd 11 ~ar.ouu be. lt a diffah aot LObe emodonal -.heft., for tile rarsl time. we U'CI lkbatlaa a cl.oalmtril wtl',ell &m.andi tbt we ckfiAe ,.bat we think of OUI'K1Yet fJ C.nadi .. n~ •

As Mtmbtrs of l,llrb1u11cnt, • oe art bcins asked to ~ • cour~e for Canad~a • ·hk:h will finall)• brinJ ll.f to lldu1th0«1; which wlll finally tlfins u• to full indcpendenoe a.s a &avcrcilln nution $tllhl.

I :un p1rtlcul.a1ly pkll.tcd 10 breve been givea the Oppoftunity to ben member()( thlti ti<Kille whm tllb dcb:He ist:tl.ina l)lllC:C. like moo membett or the Uou.sc there t~re mn.ny ILrQ$ or thb cl)mltttutiun:J.I pa4:b.&c tiUt I «MMld speak to. However. inlh~ time I luft anil.abk tO me I w:~.nl to addrcS!I the ~ dwut ol fithU.

DuriDc tile co-ne of dtb ck~ I Uft beard wmc people uy tba1 a cballcr fA riJ•tl k uallltoOeU:U)' for Cuaclia.._ To thofc pcopk 1 ay tltt, are • '101111. lil bald 1ha1 pa:rtiadat view. E\U a sllalow loot at •bcre • -c: U~ bee::~~ Ut ~r country. aN •·here •'< are a1 aow it~ the arn. ot ei,-iJ and human rjptt i• aO pe.ru o( Canada. • ·ouW .,:bow tbJ.t the:~ is a nC'C!Cl f<K 11utlt Jc:gisb.Uorl. l ""'ould a~k those who question. tbis need tO rem::mbeT l\QW Jnj)!&nclfc CnMdinml .,..·ere tteatod durln& World \Var 11 artd the •h.nme •-e fed no•· e bc.>u t that period in our hiit(lty. I would 11~11: thcrll to ca~t tbc:i.r thoughh back to OctoWr 16. 1910, •hen the O.:rvccnn~(::nt M Canada subjoottd the people of C.m~du IO the fint pe~ceti roe in'I'QC:atkm or thoc Wu Mca.wrc• A.;1. With a single: woke the p·ernment pf.-ood in $~Upended 11nim.ut0a m:.n.y ol th.: ltatd·•Od llbertlu of thle Ca~~adiu pouclk

I ~tlso a,k tbo1c •IIIo q~1011 this need U) 'oot at wbft • CW!lbet ol ptO'I"IIICW ~u ba~. daoc:. « •Ye attrmpt· cd t.o do. from liiiW 10 time. F.or uamplc:. tk Afbctu per• mcut at one time trW to ttrutk ,.._.-did ••arcc .... ,. i1 b)'~ uti·rrc:c PfO'' qislatica. r. lbe mid-19601: tllr 0otJr1o P'<mmen~ hurodl)(:led a btll wbiic:b, if;, Ud bout made: law, wou.ld bave dra!itlcally expe.lllkd die po'III'Cfl ol the PQfiOG fn t.hat prcwlnoc. Oftty publk awareness and ptCI5tuc pre,-ented theaovc:mment from ac:hml.ly carryin,g out lu 1nttll• tionli. Tbc:rc "'IS al-o the lnfamou5 pndJtX:k &av.· in Q~.KI)cQ.

Consider the tfUerlmlnation dliU U r r.ac:t i$ed every dny ilgaiMt won.c:n in out socktr,, ag.ai.nt IXlr ctboic: population, wr :ab<Kigin:il Pi!UI)IC!I • nd d illbk:d and bandicsppc:d Canadi· ans. One doel not tl11ve to 1ry ~ry brd IQ l'«!!l@;nb;c tllc tlccc:l

MuchJ.I911 COMMONS DE.BATES 11}1

(<K t unl~~u;al eh3rter or ri&b~ in our oountr)'. Tbu notld. uhb now. ni>t at~ dis.tant time as othcrt. •XK~td lltl&&at.

I wpnt to t11ke o •nomen1 10 tulk :SP«ir•call:)' •bout this nf!Od fill it tpplie~ t(l Clln;Jd l;t n~ who are disabled ftf h1uwliea(lfli:d . l,flj,l m()ntb the Special Comtllhu:e on the Dl8ubkd and the Ha.ndlcappcd, of ,.·blch [ 2m a mc::mbcr, to bled hl rtport ln the 1-lo..tllt~ AI the bt'!inniiiB or my re:marka I stkS t h011t (In r11re «a~toM muntN come ~~oerore u:s ~' Mc-mb<'f• ot Parliamc.u tiWil rik obow: p::uti.un pofiti~. In my view tlli:J. debate ora tht COMIIIIIUONI pecti.J'C i$ OtiC: ol thttc: NI\C,._ AIIOCJieJ was the wotlt the ~~ COII'm:litt« dW wbco we- ~t.eknoot ou.r ia~tcttioe tJ the ~ ol disJblod tad hudiCl,.wd c .. ac~ ... 11111.1 ~ bad '""P'CXfltatPa ot •• otthe polttbl pan~ hi tlx liOIIfie.. I bow I qut (Of aD of tlxm •hm l uy th;,t while • ·e- ma)' ba\'e bad drt.a&r«l'Mftll from time 10 umc on pbilosopbical d.irKC~ q dkl not ttlfl.y time: rcduoc thole disagtttmenl$10 ~rtiNo, poltlieaiiC\'tb.

At; a result or 11\11 attitude. I bcJicvt out c.:ommiuco llas prc~ntcd one or the be.u rtpt>rtll tbf:s Hou8c huseen In a Ion& tittK, tnd 6tlOC it i~ acted upon ils roooomloCitdll li(lnt "Ill •' IQI'IJ llut allow t his important p:i11 or our communhy to fully P"'tidp.atc In the nuin.Str~::am or<..'anadi;an lire.

The rcp>rt or the $pcx:ial committee w:u prc11~11od 111'tn we h~d benn;l (tom 64J wil!XS.'IU 'tll!bo prcxnted l.li with 630 111bmiM:ioM at fl7 mecti~ Mid acroa Can~. Tht replrt dc:illh • i1h tWO major tYpe$ of obs:w:la d,.u.,blcd C.NdiiN r.cc C'YtfJ' .. ,. tJ tllcit lins.

o.c oblcadc I"Caaltu rrom llw:: r.a that .... Y ....... WOIOC• and dtiWma arc dqwi"Cd « toad halth. er ha~ d:Uabiliticl •bicb ckprivc. t.bttn of IISiq: tbc:ir rec:t •• af'MI, hsadt. YO!ca, Ort, C)U aDd millds in I wt)' t.h.tl Giber CaudiiN ta_kc ror &ranted. Tht other ldnd or <lblotaclc rm~lu rrom alli tlldu that tl'luy able bodied Canadi11n ha\~ toward thoit Canad~m' • ·hi> arc: disabled. Th.is auitu.dc hlh tended eo dovdop a dhorc&ard rot then~ or di~blcd f)009k when we plan ou•• hutn3n U d eivil ri&blS proto.tiont., our htnhb titre urvkc11, employmcm oppomutities and thu ''llriUU.i rucilitict and •Y"emt we hu,·e to p•xlY1dc, $w:;b u ho.Wna, cdueolion. ttll idpOrUIIIOn. thoppina. recreation and OOC'nl)luni~ IIOI\t.. . "'"' ~11"£ (Kit pubtk: ~ we Wtt~ UI)Ci&lcd.Jy loW thi.t

dtMblnl Canotclill'IS h:!:d to be p-~tdcd nh lf'CI'" proccct;oo Wider 0111 luumn naflc; lqisUlioo. ud ll bc<smc obvious to tiN: COII!mhtee tlwit tU lllld to be- a top pOority ror P"C"~"*"' ..,_.

We ame to Lha.t cone~.- ror • number o1 rUJOIIl. fir~~ ol 111, unlk• Q.i5tin& k,g;islation. the: oraly protOCIMMI api:Mt diiiCrimin.atlon dlsabl~ people ha''C i$ in UJC area o( employ· n>enL Diu bled Cttntu.liMi are not JlfOtected from discrimlna· tion under the minimum "''l.@e laws in many ptovfneu or under (c:d~ral lctbl~lion. Disabled ~c ~re I)()C pf'O(CCted rr~n di~CTimlnrili<>n in the Oclds or accommodation ud tn.tntJ)(}ft:t• tlon. nor do they have cqualacctS.i to t'd~oteiltl()flu.!MI communi~ lion u do all other Ci!n:adU.ro~. In aim_,.c lctma, 50rlle two miiiiOII Can~dlun.s Ire being d«<icd lbe opportunity or fully

~ Cotr¥lltlltiott

~rlic:ipating in the majni-u-c;a•n or Canadian life boc:ausc tl~e~y a re dbablcd or handictpt)Od,

Man)' membcn may 1'\!CIJII t hat on NOI!'Cmbcr 3 of last year I a$kcd the Minister or Juiticc (Mr. ChtCtieo), vndcr thcptcwiiions of Standlna Order 43, to n.mend the: ~;barter o( rig.htll t(t indudc the ditaboled, and to probibit distriminaUoo tpin:st tbe disabled tnd tbc hudicappod in. aU arRt of Cal!:ldiaaliJe.

1 aOO my Q)(Jc•aiKI, the hoe. tnctnbct fot &atuby aacl the boil. IDCII'Ib« ror YOt'k~·McMik. proscd bard rw W~Ciil an 2rneadmcat wllj;lit the joint oomllliuee -..s ~ lk pad:;qc ww bdcn -. aM •hid .,. has tbo5,t a.Jitt~ iiM::Jbckod .. iL &cry lt'OVP ••idt appc:a.i"Cid bclcn tbat CIC.JGio milt«.. alld ,..., ~ I~ briq:irtc; u cad to tile disaiminltioo that llu beta p...etk.od (Of too loo.& a.tpl.u:t our disabltd ~latlon, • rauod ' " *'IJpport or 1be a.mcndment. What "''C arc di&~;unina bere arc the rights of 10 per CICIIt ol oor populatioo. We arc di.JoiiJ£1ns the right of Q\'Cr 1"1> million diMblc:d and h.andk1.1Ppcd Ctnadians to enjo)' Ufe u do other Canadians.. We are d~«:ldtl •~i a stgment ol our society tl1a1 has (Wd 60 11e1 cet'll ur h., rc>'f!\llu tion I)U.t of work. We a1e d~~ilta tbc riah• or •hou•1•nds or children il'l the <XM~nii)' to bave aooess to an cduettion naw bdn,g. dcni<d tbe.n btca.ust or tlldtaln& d.istblht)',lli>Ch a• lbat or "ut4tic.cblldrco.

Mtt~u.Uy iU ClN!dt~• arc dblCnminated a..g;aini$1 on a daiJy ~ boc.b by tod~J Met tNr judicial .SJ$Ccm. ODe oofJ has to loot at how aK jaJticc: t,sum 1ra.ts people no art llldUitly diublcd a.lld wbo ~ bcca dwpd wit• otreac:a. We llii;YC fftu 1.000 C.u4uN wbo tuw bcco loc:bd ... ,. Cor ~ ~ oC time br decisioN ol a lbteaut tJ1'H:If!l«.

One iMi"iduaL Emenon 8oftl'lll, was jllst rece.dy tdeutd aft« suvit~& J6 yt:an ill a muimum ,;oc:urity tMtitulion in New Brvnswitk fOf the criminally Insane bcc2tJ:se be bappe:nt to be •nentally ret11rd«<, 1t wu tll~d th~t ht· li~d "okn a pur!OC' in 19(14. l!mc.Jiil)fl Oonftllr, and more l~tl 1,000 othera like h.im, are: loe.:kcd up In lnsthudons all across tllis oounuy without beMfit ol ulal. Thl• •nullt stop.

We a.re diswn.in¥1111 opi)Oftunity to givt an Canadia.ns. in 211 parts or OIU .oc:~t)'. tbc riJttl to Mly purtiQpatc ht C~t~Udiln b(e u cquab.. a t111u tbat most oC U$ vety ortu simply taU rot trtntcd. We In the Ne• Dunc.ende Party !la'fl: arz_ued ror tkM rilhcl. .... I take 500lC pri4e iA bowiq they :arc aow illdudcd 1ft tile chanu As~ memkr i11 ••D H<*IC, I ... IIOC. pr~ to *CCqlllht

propos;iOO. tc1'rul:lcd by ** t.lut tht dsantt cl nghu. sho.ad bt deth wit• a fin the Cot~5111 udon bu bcleo bfoii;Jbt ~tome.

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Mr. Ye~11n:g;: 1t iJ bclna ckalt with here in Canada 110w. at are tlle other clemeniJ or the. COn.1titutMlnal packa&c. Th~ [email protected]•n that "''C nre not )O(»nehow doins th'i$ iJ utter non• Kn.se.. 11.1td I ratbcr autpeot thO&C wbo a1e ad~'8ncing that $"Uggestion know full we lilt U nonstnst. To suuestcbat we arc a1~iag the U.K. so~crnmcnt to rukc a Canadian romtitution whicb ioclude$11 ~;h•rte.r or r(ahu Is simply not rac.tu.tl.

78S$ COMMONS DEBATES March J. l9111

The ConJilluli()tl

Soa~ lkl•.l\ft:nt.bt'r,;: He:lr, he<t~r!

Mr. \'ong: We arc mltking that ~onstitulional package. right now, we art rm.kin& it .here in Canada. and tdl :\grce we htwt tb:H right.

In OCM'Idu$iun, I want to say t.bat .,..e in the New Democratic Pany want to get on with the jub. We are oot prepo1red t<) $it back -.•bile tht - provincial go\'etnmenu try I() mate up tbcir mind$ "''h<thet c.hey \j,'3Jlt all C.mtd W.ns to have the. s.:i!Tll' right-s. regardless. <1f the urea or Canada in ... •hich they live. We bel ie~-c all Cin;1dian$ should have thOOe. ri.shts now. We wiU not be pany to any ane1npt to deny t.he granting of tbo$<: rights • .,.·bich I am oonvinoed will hsppeJI If the cb:Jrter is not acu:d upc>n uQd dealt with now.

Mr. Ro• Sttwnl (Si!IIC-C.Ie South): Mr. Speaktr, I rbe fro•11 my lleat IQ enter this hi3totic oot~s-titutie)nal debate. I am noc the least bit incrcduk)u.~ th-111 QUt Prime Minister (Mr. Tru· deau} would perpetrate the sreattst ltoOOll, tht:. arutest manipulatjon, tbe 8~ttsl "con" j<», t.M gR:atest ... sOOM'" job ever foisted upon the dtil.ell$ of thi& peat domini<~n or Cal\ada by hli unllluc.rnJ despotic fXtttiation of our 'I'Ccy pt't:d{)u:; Cunstiunioo: unilat«:ll patriatiOfl by &<Till£ 0\'U tbe heads of the pt'O\'inoes, an amending formuJit witb \'tto po'l\'tt to Ontario t~nd Quetxe, and a charter of righu tntrc:n;:hed by 9ritoo&, no1 Canadians.

M m)' oolleag.ttl:l< wllo spoke bc.forc-. I congr::1tull!te tbe Ri.ght Hon. l.c:1der of the Opposit.lon (Mr. Clark) for rceO!-· ni:,o;in8 tbl$ duplicity as early IU Oc-tober 2. 1980. I ootlS1'3lu· late my coiJcaguc froot Pr~·ench« (Mr. Epp} ;aod his ooosti· tu1iooal oommitlee ror thti t oogoina eff«ts to .stop tbls C3llou.' m:·mipuJation by the )•rime Minister and ltis Wlined nnvi.l l:boru.$, I love ·my rM.I ina: or S imcoe South :Htd my ~ountty, sod 1 'o\'aJII p:uri<~tion, but not dicl.tltl)rs.hip.

Sotnt hoe. M~ .. ~~crs: Hear, beat!

Mr. St~w·ut: Ma; ny of my colleague; have p:~intt:.:l •)ut the hiS'1rny or thls peat Can . .id:s: ti:K: Quebec ace of 1774, t he constitu1ional act or 1791 and Lord Ourham'-s teport. They recog~tiud the f~;~ct t hat tbe Quebec ae1 and tile: C<lns~itutioonul .:~et g:we IQ French Canadi;J;n$ riabt& whieb •1rcre the most enlightened of their time. Unfortunately, no one pointed out 'hat tbc Durb2m report rccommendod the union (I( Opp~r •nd l,(y...-cr Canada and the use or on.e federal lang-uage. English. Had this been 3dfu:red IQ. we would DOt be ha\'in@. Ibis acrinlOnious •!eOOte in the House uxl;~y. Now we must_ aJI .acquiesce to the f3ct th:H the Ri~bt Hon. Prim<: Mi11iStct, In his mast« pl2n, h.A~ aeoompl.isbcd 1 11.~ or the l.hrce lhins$ h.: stt out tO d(l in bi$ bcll·bel'! t+fOr· k:llther saUop to take Caoad:a tO tbe lel't.

Fi~t. be made cl~tu:e t he order of the day. controlling tbii House b)' limiting debate through the: u:ie ~.>f RuJe 7X. Ne.'(t. he IX!Sstd the Official l:-•nsune.cs Ace. 1t ln."'Y tiOl be rashion·

Al:tle-to speak out against t he JltaCticc-t•Ot the tbtory or the idealism or the goals-of bllingu.., lism.

Aft lwlfl. Me .. rwr: ihn:e rartits 'A.ltc:d ror it.

Mr. Stewarl: Bilin.tu21li.-Jm -.nd ~ulturalism ate aimed at prde'rv1ng ;lOO enh.an.;ing national UJiit)'. The practice ~tnc.l l'..-idenee is that they ba''C had lhe OJ}I>I'JSite dfcc:t. To voitt opposition. sktpticisonlor disene-h:antlllCnt wilh !he oontributi.:.n or bi:lin-.g_uali$m nnd bi~.:ultvralilsm to the 113tion;sl u nit)' l$ ll> risk bcin& pilloried by tbooe w ho are blindly ;md irrevocably pledged to tl• ~ oonecpt. Tu speU:k oul against tbe be;!dlong ,.~,,n intl) bilinglUllism is, alas, to be branded a rednod:. to be labelled anti·Ftc.neb: I am n<lt. Aut I see lht Official Lan· goagts Act un:nl)enda.ble if this piece of kgisla1i<1n ~ th,ough, and I see that as a great risk to unity :at doe$ tbe premier of my province. I wou.ld ~ dereiN:t i.n m)' (Jut)' a$ a representative ol3JI <»f the pcopk of Sirocoe South iJ J did nM trllnl!mit tbe majority of tbeir feeling:> 2nd sel!tir•wn ts to dtis Hoos.e. Spealcing f<lr tbe V\ll«$ or Sirnl.'l)C Sot.Ub, I think I also Sj~tak f<1r that wilent m1Uority in tbe rest ofCan3da o" tbe is:sue (J( bilinaua:lism.

Ovou 3 cenUJI)' ago.. I,.!Jrd o .. rh:Tm 'o''rotc: i.n hj$ celebr,ttcd ~pOrt th.:.t he found "two nntions "''lrring witbin the bosom <If

-11 single 3tate". Tb.at "''al. unrortunatcl)', a1~ I say unfl)rtU• natel)'. bas continued until tl>d.ay. Of CQur.se, we buvc: an orrtei31 l,.itngu.:lgo ACI. But la!J.li.Uate has divided this n:uiOIL The b-ilingualism and bicultutalism policies of this $_0Yc:rnment have stf'\·ed only t<> act at aD .abrallh·e in En:&Ji.~h·speak:ing Canad:1.

Let us loot Jll r"lity. The !hi.stoty and Lhe- .:.-:perienc;e of <ltha nt~tioos would indiC3te that it G next tQ i.mpoo,siblc to b"i:ld a unified o:uioo u$ing l'o''O official l11nguages. Tbt:re must be one common r;Tnguase fof basic oonlmunietltic)n, and in Stwth America, whetber we like it or nul, fi&\l rc& tell us 11 iJ EOJI,Iish. This "''as t:spc.)Ul.lcd b)' llhe hon. James Rieh::u·<l:ion, a fotrnet 1niniMer in tbat governm·ent. who w:t;; forced to resign. Bilingualism should be a tw()-w;~y $1rec:c. To me bilin&ualism means English l:'mgu11ge in5truction oppo~tunitic.s for Pren<:fl. spe3kin.g. Canildians aod Fre•.cb-la nguage iMuuction opportunities ror English-sptitki.ng C.-nudians.

I have in my h:\nd a C<IPY u( ll01U1Ud f<lr r.brch 2. 198 1. At ~g~ 1713, tbe hoo. member fOf Vaud1euil (Mr. Herben) :~W qu-estion No. 1 ,934, as f()li(IW$:

Wloo:lt k u .. ""''11•• fot •t:o:r <-vr~~~~ t-.a:.l )'<•t or <11: orroei~l Y llli£11lf M,_.urity (ir(ll>!"' Oircnor.l« f>( lb: l)t,,.rtmeo~l of d .... ~"'~~"~' o( Stilt tt.wJ .,.t111 i> Tk (e) p:!ll.'tQU•t (b) ~"e• Cl:l(oila u!l(lq!io. ol tltis t lii!I IO e.:.dl en'..¥.1 t&I:CIJl.&t"'""'P:

"J'ht: MlS"'~r a:h-en by the ~rli::UtTI:'n l~tY Secrc.t•rr to the S«retat)' of State and Mini:~t.er u( Communications (Mr. Stollcry) reads:

Murch J. 198 1 COMMONS OSBATi;S 7859

thf l>ud~o o( 11\( (lfrt~l laii$1Wil( Ml110rhy (.;rllllf" Oit«'!Ofill~ for ("""ll ~.or 1'160>ll l ls Sl).iJOO.OOO.

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CMes that !OifljC'k or hum:•n rishts Of dOl:$ it :;mao.:Jt of .somelbine •·c want 10 do undet biling:ualdm'! This must be dooc. by moral ~ussion not by tlueat or rut. not by tbe SJIOC'tre (li being red clrelod in 1hc- public: sen·ioc b«auK you do not ~peak. Frencb. 11 shou.ld 1'101 bo: dooe by the lad of mobilit)'. the Wbility to moo.-e ftt cly fr<M'n pro>~ii)C'e to prO\Jince be.:"au~ yl,lu do not ~;peak bc>th (J((ici:lllan$1J.ll8C$ nuenUy.

I ptaoed q1.1cstion No. 1.731 Ofl the Ordc.r Paper. h .,.'as :.m:~.,.·ertd on F'dwu:ary 2J, J9St, 0111 rcpcmcd in Htmsqrd at ra&cs 7551 and 7558. Tbe federaJ goo.oern•nent has wasted billions of doJlars to product a funedonally bili.n,vml publi<: :~uviee, b111 it h:a::~ n<l4 worked. Pan or tbe alt$•-er to m)' question was that it cost S5.390 for 849 bours of instruction (ot a public setvant. Tbc hidde-n Ctll;t$ :ar~ much hi&l)cr, svch as the tim~ a•·:.y f rQm l.he job wbile on immersion, lhe Ol.lftts to pay a repiaccment to covet wbilc tbat peoon is atA•ay on l:ll'[email protected] training. tbc OOI>ts <lf r~nO\·al t.l(pc:n~e~~ for the forlu· ~te few who :n e ch<~(I IOSI\Idy in total i.mmenion in FranC~e, Quebec, Of elsewhere. on full SIIJary for one ycar. The an~·crs

ptO\'ided to nle by the PrWden1 of I he Treasury B~rd (Mr. Joh.n:;wn), who I .$« in the HOO$e, are ooly the tip of the k ebers . What the JO'I"trn.tlCIIt l'e\'ealod in its answer i~ tbat it does f'l<lt real.l)' know h<lYr tn11Ch it tuu ~~ for 1\I.DHIU.ISC: irutJuclion in d1e pub.Ji<; sett'i«.

Bilingualism should me:an tJmt 1'101 only Anslo-Carntdhms IQrn french but uniJiJlgual French, or Englisb Canadians.. should not be discriminated agaiRst because tbey speal; ool)' ooe language. lt sholl.ld mean tba1 the l<el~ or this •'9rld are nQt bttni:~hcd beCause I bey ;are vniJingual. This was poimed out only yesterday b}' the boo. member for Winnipcg-Auiniboinc (Mr. McKcJI2ie). 11 should m.._-an lh:'lt unilinguttl C.1n;1dj:11U ore oo1 f<Xt:cd 1o ride oo the back of tbe bus because of a n accident of birtb. language or JOOtr.lpb)'. h s l•oo~ mean that urti lirtgual ~auity guard:s 2nd prOtt o!live iltllff, wh(l we. $01: in tbi$ Hou~. $1C· n<.>l made .s«ond~lau citizens ~use they $pc3k one tongue. h sbould mea~ that t\'tr)' Canadian is able tO C()mrnunM:::ue "·ilh hi:~ gC)"I-crnmenl in his or ~r lllll$U<1ge. 1t sbovld mean tb;u A~o-Canadians in Quebec sbouJd be accotded tbe same rights 1ha1 F"r.1ne<~·<;:an:tdhan,; are ~iet"k.ing dli-Cwh.erc in Canad:.. h .Would mean tbattbe federal ~iC)' be adm.in~tcred sanely. not rammed dow·n the tbto:ns of Canadi· fillS.. 3tld not In such 3 faslaion a,; l<'l fl)f« a b:•tkl,,$11 :.sail\1"1 our fn::nc.h p:u1ner.:~ in confederation

Think of what migh1 bs''t happened bad those fcd«al billions of doll3lS been u!led in I Angul~&e in.UfliCii<'ln In lhc

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public schools. instead of baving been wuted U}"iDtt to make 45. 50 tt~MI SS·yc:lN id civil lh:rvanu bi.l in.g~l. Today l.'"e migh1 ba\'e had 3 vaslly different C.nttd.l. 1:rench u.nd F.nglish n<y.~o· h~vt never betn tnocc:. alittutc:d.

I do noc .,.>am rougb justice for members of 11 mosjority (){the Canadi~n population. those whose mocber toog~Xt is Enslish. just as there llhould not be rough justiQC for those wh<.I$C mothu tongue is French. I w:un real rigbcs. I fear tbd document in t"C$~( or all our ri.sh.rs.

I respo:.cl Q\11:boc, and I respect lht Ftcoeh language snd culture. We -all spoke in lbls ti(JU$1: le) \:;Cl;!;p Quebe.! in oonfed· er3tion. I want to see tbe growth and cJe.,.~ot.,ln vibrosnl, bilin.sunl Qt~cbte. I do rtUI W4tlt to see bypbc-.nated Canadiaa· i!lm. Jf'll~are evct to be a united <:U11n1ry •·c •nust build on the baJ<Is of equal pa.rtDCtship for aU Canadinn.s, not (lnly " partne~h ip ol 1wo fou ndins t :tcc:s. If we are not a united co~tnuy we are a divided c:ountry. tr we a re di\•ided we will never achieve our destiny and •oe will QOOtinuc tO be t"'"" nations '"wMTing wilhin the. bo!lo•n ol a single state"'.

If I hi~ nati<~a i3 10 booo•ne tru1)' bilitlgual, il muSI be done yadually through a nrition. If that i ~ the-way h SJ11lU!d be. so be iL Sut le1 lt evol\le UJlder Parliamc:nt and provirtCi;tl le£»,1:1.• tion, not tb~gh gra!<l·bound. !J':'I Ilj(C..(:ICbC:d flt"'OOUDCetnefiiS in :a ooostltutio~U~J dooument $UCb" the ooo pr<lp()lft:d.

Many Ciln:tdiant do not -...·:Jtu to become bilinguaL They do not need to become bilingual. 1'hey M not fccol tbe need to become bilingual and they are prOOat.ly 1)(14 eJ~p;.•bk or btooming bWns.ual. Thd s.bould be tbeir choioc. We must respccl the righ~ of the ind ivicft~n l I() t11:ll frecdotn of choice: .. Bilingualdm must tc:main a matter of pcr~al cbl>i~:e.. no1 Qf enttdlched leslsl:nlon from oil high.

Ca.nada d 110'1\' badl.y crippled bccu;IISC or I he m:liled fin (J the. federaJ g_ovc-rrtmc:t~t's Official l anguages At:t. n~Jtional ~an6nrds "l"l)icb arc un:an-eptabk in 1t"IO~t or the provinces and tcrritori~. h is essemial that "'"e 1cltm 10 di.slinguisb betwteu ind1"'idul!;l b411rtglltlli!tn and na.tiooal bilingualism bcc.1use the ooc ~rcatcs unity and the other cause!:$ d.i'iiS;ion.

Individual bilingualism " no1 only u.ccep!cd, it is wciOQmcd Qnll ~ou,Sh t ;afll!r imd i:~ . in fact. &C:fltilll to the achievement or natioaal unity, Natton..1l bilingut~lism i,. u•t.Ulutal. uOOc:sit · able, urt'olltloome and it is one of the ocntral ~:~u.sc:; or 1\lltlQnal disunity. We musl :.11 t1y to rem«Jlber that 'A"e are nation OOildin.r.. 001 provi nC~e buildina. and tb:.t if Caru~d i.a !ls :11'e to aebiC\'C: their destiny as one people. CaDada mu.sl ultimntcly be united by lan&u1gt, not d i\•idcd by lan..g"U.agc:s,

Somt ho11. Mem~rs: Ob. ob!

Aa•on.. M~111lltr. Y<)U h :w~ 801 lhc"l yapping. t..,..•. Mr. Su• .... -.tt: But t he: amp trltat. "tbe t:<Xlp d~ gnk~ is the

bringing h()mc of our Con;s.titutjoll wilb a 1-"tto-int:lu<kd amending formula a nd t he mo~t imp:rfea c~rter of rigbU ooc. eould imagine. This d!attet will gil-c the people not more right.s bt.•t le$$. lt WmC$ lhroush ,S!rl)l.-cl.ling. at 1be feet of Westminster to include tbe chatter a.nd amcndi.n.g formula.

If it Is so g(f!3t. why ill 1be Prirna:-Minister seu in& tillle limiu l~n debate.? Why were time limit$ se~ [or the 00fl51ituli(lnll l

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TM Conslltutl<HI Qtlfnmittee'l Why is C'l-eryon~ n<K a~;ceptod wllo ... llnl'l ta Jp«tk7 The a.n.swcr i.s tbat 64 per ttnt of C.nadians.. at last CQunt, were (19908ed 10 hill aetiOnil, and tn()re ~~~- jutnping on the band wn.on every minute,

Tbis. ~ not me~ly .something to oppose as an op~ition

mctnbi:t of ParlbMenL h is the- vtty soul of this nati.oo ror whieb we struqk. By tlle ~o~nilater<ll pattiatjon of tbt C()c'lstint· tioo, we are aJi.enati t18 CanadiaJIS and Britons alike. Tbe whole prwt:S$ i$ dei1d wrong. The Right fl()n. Pdme M'ini.uer-. v.·itb his majorit)' can make his unllatual opualion liUfXICS$(ul, but wdtcrn Cartada has i!Mllc:ued ekarly that the patient may die. Confede:riJtioo WJli tbc rc:;ult q/IJ C()fl.~cnlltu or the pr<winces. 3.

plrltltrship aDd a desired int<:rdepeDdeDte.

A• •· M.,•"r: Qutbcttt!l,.'ill remember you.

1\tr. St~watt: h \Uihcd bankrupt p«Winccs.. and to the surpri.se uf tbe world wa.s the ~11i$ ()(fewer than two million poople building a raUroad 110mc: .4,000 n1i1es rrom sea tO$C:l.

e (ltOOI

8)' this 10amc British Nottb America Act. our Frwch Can:ldlan bl'()tber.l were. abk. to retain their lan8uage and thcir wlture, which tbey have to tbi3 moment. Had "''e not boen cemented togelher by this act, I am sure we wo1.1kf n<)l be 1t

11nited nation today, but tll.thc:.- a OOtlqUC:ted appendage or the United States.. I can imagine how m11ch bllin8ullli~tn tbtre w()tlld then be... This laQgua~ right $«m.1 to be m~;~ch o n the Prime Mini$-IU'$ mind and tbat or tbe M"inlster or Justice (Mr. CbrCtien), but I would remind them tll~t my prcmler says no t () entrenc-hing. Is it as Shakespeare ••«dd say, me tbinb tbey prole$' too m1.1.:h. h the real purPI)Se of the chlltt« or rights to entrench?

The British Nortb Amerita Act did 0()11 c:D$.h.rine our ciifftr· cnces. it prMceted t.Mm. This w11t done: though Clause 1 oflbc Statute of Westminster, a.s pojmcd oot by my colfcaa~~:e, the hOn. n)(mbet fot Durbam-Nonhumbc:rland (Mr. Lawrente). Now the time hM come to cbange that Constitution. 1 wouki like it cleatly and uncquivocably undenu,JQd tllat not l)nl y do I ch.ampi()u brin.glrtg boo\1! out Coastitutioo 'o\o'it.h its cquali:t~~tion rights. but so dOI:ll my le.ader ;rnd, unanimously. our party. I want otu Cons.tinnioo borne jllSt as I wanted and strived l<w our own ofYidal nalton.:tol aru.bem.. I withdrew my pri,•ate member's bill. C-220, in raYWr of tbe government's BIJI C-36. trnd I bad tbe: great booour of bcing the $Oie spcakef ()n behalf of my JXIrty, by ua~mrnt ol our House leaders. oo ma.kine 0 Canada our orrteiu.l n:ation.1l 11nthem.

In 1867 the provinc;es Jave up the right of Individual powers to form a suong fode~tbon. They rormcd a partnenbip "'·bi<::h nill lll&d 3Jrons ir:tdividu;1.l pow~ yet equ.ally t ti'Oflg oentral powets. h was a fcdetation, a po.rtoenhip aDd 11 good Ofle·. This mu.lt rontinue. We rnust not go dO'o''ll tbe slipper)' r0o1d to republi,;an\$m. il$ $Ulted $1> c iQQuently by P~mier Lyon or ManitobG.

We have heard :r great ado m.srde of human rights by the leader or the party opposite. I ask. is there any feder.srl party in this House which hlls more claim to be prwd in that ti:<eld of

endcilvou.r t!Y;n the Proytssive C4>nsc:rntive Purty! I bave in my hand 11 topy of the Caudian. Bill of Rights introd11occl by thi: late Ri&:ht Hoa. John Did'cnb:fker in i%0. h is a code b)' wbi<:b my p.~rty li\•t s. Of ooursc:. this bill of ri&hts is nnt in ogr Constitutiol), but to rne. it <31'1 be in Of ou( ll5 long 11.~ it is imetprc:«cd. properly. The-most pt'ffeclly written biiJ ol riatnt~ i~ ()()tltainr::d [n the constitution of the Untotl of Soviet SIXialist Rcpublit$ a11d o~ 1:an ju.s.t ask a citizen or AJfhaoi$U.n bc:>w it is interpreted.

t\g.llin, une<tui,·ocably, I U.1«t tbot I, my k ackr and my pany are &OfidJy beh.ind the- NU of ri.ghts for all Cn.udi11.n.s. if tbil.t is wh3t they want. But wh~&t i$1he: rush? As one of the too <Jllen $iknt majority, I want to s~t out f<K my righu for a cban,e. M one o( the uppl"odm.srtcly 70 per oc:nt Efl&li$b• •:•king people in this coontry, I "'·.:mt to talk about tbe savioclr of "I:O()n pay11''. How about my c:.ountry, my Coostitu· ti«<'! 1 am here to wv.rn the Canadian people that this proiXJISIII ill wrong and that I will right this wrong. This wbole. proceas or constitutional ~baoat ill wr0f1g.

1 • m afl.&t)' and I cannot take it uy mort·. Feii<Yo\' Canadians and, more importantly, liberal baekbcnch<rs. <11> not tllke it any more. We arc beins wrooged by this document. My c:omltltu.cntt arc being wi'Ot'l,cd. My tountry b bcin8 ... ronged: wronged b)' a dCQCitfu1 document p~pared by a Prime Mioi$• ter who has 'AI'OI'Shippcd at the tbr(ltle of t.hcbia,•e!li, Marx. Chairman M~o. l..askty and Castro and makes no boc'lcs about h. The ooly bope "'<e h;1.vc of ehattg-e is a reYOit or the L..ibe.ril l bilekbet~e.hers. From wbnt I h~r rror:n CIVet tbe.re. I don't think tbefe b much hope~

The Prime Ministe:r h;as tbc a udacity to present tlli$ dcxu• ment tO u.~. an elfi'Ot'ltery to oor country. He has tbe audacity to ask us to uust him in amending our CoMtitution: oun , n(l( his Cot~sti tution . 1t has been s;:aid th2t Moses did not write th~ ten CQmm:rndmtnts, be jU$l delivered t.hem •nd led his people out o( booda.ee. Well. the Prime Minister is kadina 011 int () bondll!t.. Wt heard about his j11P $()Ci.ct}'· What we ha\'<: now is j\151. a IIQCiel)'.

In his book '"fotkralism and the Frct~ch Canadian" the Prime. Minilitcr ~t.au:d in refcrcot:e to strong ttntrul govern· ment that: 11 - Id cuulel) be an od·~nwa~ if .,.,. rt>lef*! IP""M'"'Cft' _, ... «1 rk pl'(l'"i~ "*1 11\llkU rlrltl 11tfou :llcm -~~ il' l.bc:$!: m:mtu .ue e!Jiircly .,jtJrin f.c.dttJI juri.,.,~.

t 44 Mt $«wily .. ,_ -*" n(ll qltbfilll jltflo'l.tiWHII Ql1$1~illll b->o.ti~ ,,. c;mufc dur owr ~~ qrlfr. cusrom1 or mor.c•• rr J'llli.:ic:t re..!ty rflk<" the. Of'ioioJn' or pcorlo: ••r(l~"' rile COUilll)' o~~nd 'h.ll ,. rrvoii>(C rcd!O ""*~ b)" llle> e.l«t&c. of OJIIIn.l l'll"a

Wby the dlanec. or h~CJ~rt '!' Wby ooc tbc:n apply this to (.'l,)n!'ltitutiooal matter&. l>oc$ thi11 ~und like a man who bdd up the (ir$1 minttters' oooference. Doe$ thi11 de-hew trust? Wbco 1 asked the Prime Mini$ter about this ~atement, he said lt wiLl

written ten or 1 S )'Cars aso. Vet, io 19n wben a11kcd if he wanted the book abtid..gcd. tbc ans•-cr W\I.S an unoqu.ivocal no. This is tbe same Prime Minit ter who t«:ently, while in Britis.h C(llumbi.a. stattd tbat if CaMda did split apan bcl;a1,1$C or his unilole"ral acti.oc ()tl the Constitution. ''Then 1 say it is ltO(

March l. 198 1 COMMONS DEBA'l'l::S 7861

""-otthy ol fi'ling al)l)1her day. •• 8is <letJJ! WeU. I say bitldcrdu.s.h to s.uch despotic: arrogance by the man -..•ho -..wk,l a.l ienate the dc:mo,rapbically fa$tc:st growing h3tr of this OOUlllt)' for <"l(lc last power ning.

A few days :1go m)· oo.!le:asue ror Haltoo (Mr. Jc.JiDek) caused an UPfOilf in the. H ou,se by r.:ferting to the Prime M'ini:ster in pr®e wbi<:h ~t:r. Deputy Speak.:r termed "11n unparliam.:rllltry expres:.siolf'. App:trently, it d unp:utiamco· tary tO use tbe four letter W'Ord ••bieb btgin:s with "I"', ends with .. ., •. and has .. i"u.Dd .. a .. s:..ndwiched in bet"'CM. F'3r belt from me .• illl qne of the new buyt; in this House-. to question the wi$dom of my eldc-ts lend those who bave gone. before me ht Parliament.

In. our deliberations, 1 a~<~umc -..-e are #Utded by Beau· el1~ne'~ rules and fomu 111nd the sootion;'l wbicb d.:al with offensive language and personal aU3.:k.J by one membef upun anocher. fk:u uebesne d.:li~tely refers to lhis 11.$ any '"irregularity in the qrmth of dc-lx!tc". l$ it unPQrliamenury to say that the ri.aht hon. g.f!l'ltk~n·:; •wds aDd iiCtfoos ~real vari3noe with the truth? I$ it unpar(jam<!nt.1r)· to $11}1 tbal the House and lbt--J)coplc of Canada have beeo mi.skd'! Or. tl)uld ooe get atound I he rules o( ll1oe House by couc-hing lhc \x.l.rb in stmantk s; by speaking whb less than c-J.ndor, •·i1h tongue in t:llcek1

In a~tber era ill Parll.ttnot:nt ~ forrner ntetnbt:r fC)r Ne"'· Brunswic:k ooc:e ~id ti11.U a Jl.ilxnl member of the treasury b<:rtt:hC$ has ss mueb regard fot tlte truth as a tom cat had f~>r a matriagt-ltcence. I am D()l :1 member of any C:lnt~dian Bat A$S()Ciattc.>n. but it seem:; 10 me that the-. c>nly defenoe against libel Of ~andtr is the lNtb. I te:td .1ornc:: ra tb« dsmnln.& and direct statements • •ri ttcn by Qrte Geoffrey Stc-v~JI:S ln February is:sue.i or Tltt Globe- tt.lfd Alo'/1. Yet, 1 :so:e no mo~-ement 10 summon Mr. Stc~RS bf!fore the ~~of this H~lle- to answer his aOCI.I$lltions. 8lld Mr. Stcvc:os used the mo~t un.parl.iamcnt., ry prose, He Y.'r<lte on February 2 th;u ~clatity and Hutb :tre incidctllaJ byprOOuct.s". rn al)f)!h(:r 1;0lum.n be- m~de. reference to ''t.iberal lies. dc-ccpti(lns alld cv3sion;,," In )'et another column he ~,~o•rote: - 111" IX"''Pti"n chu Mr. T•uck• hdl $1~. ali""'r ~Mfit.tt is .,.Mtl) lttld. 'TI!at't \uldm.undlllk,IJi•~ 1/lf W'l)' lie k li liQ!i. bd&d lilt p~'t:$ •nof lriol lo)bt4<,.~•11hc 6rithh.

Mr. Stevens !~lopped sbott ot ll$kiO,J bi,s r~del'll ir they would buy a uKd car ftom the Prime Ministe-r. He •·rote duu : Toclo~·. CUild• b mub:ol by o lod: 111 '".,. • mon11 t<:llio.ot. ~1 .. '«11 1 ... 1!»1$ • •Ill 11111 emt~. brl....,cn I bt roo;le and !licit ~.ill«td kodtn.

Mr. St~·cnJ: ooocluded bill CO:h.1mn by .saying: 6)' a sin,kau o( Sl>lkl''"-'-"i~iltK!t~"'-811i' ebu"' u d civirc <An.cli•

• nS U "ffp.:lttlltiOlt 111 &.1'\?1'-w-t-(r. T.-udu u •ovld dtmOnSIIIIW l.b:ll be bll"'in8 to pdl • (ll)l (lilt.. rll• r bt btlic..q bi' (OIIsdunloo b ,.·arliiJ M pil:l\c .wp""'r, tha.r hH...u lllff!O)(Ik, l)~r r!i,eyeu llll•lllim.

Wbat trust C!n ~ere be ""'bt:tl TA~ (i/Qbe <rnd Moll contends that:

lolr. Truduou ~;-r-ttd l:il> U.m,:~il•doA.ll plu s 1<1 1be ~"""'"! .,r 8ri1,:~in 1111d dru le a.M hi, mini11m. b~tc ~c. IMkodl:lllf 11!~ (;u:..,di •n P'o~tlitmtn\ a11d p~b!ihboo.ll Briu.:ia 't fl(llllltkln.

I wonder bow :;omc of the li ber.1l b:tckben(:hei'S are able to look ahemseh·es in the fact while they are shaving in the

Tltt ConstfluJioo IOOfniog. How Q n they remain mute and bbedient crained s~:~h in the face of the uue (aru, in. d1e (;Jce C)( the truth! • 011(!)

The. truth k that the Prime Minister's poll$ ~hov.· th~t some 64 ptr cent o( :~11 Canadians i.n every pl'(lvinc:e of Canada are clopp~ed le) unilateral actioo iWd Rlt'ICJ'Idment of the Coostitu• lion in Grc-a1 Britain. Tbe truth is that s.ilt of our kll fM'(WjJIQCS ar.:. iiii:'IC:king the fcOeraJ positkwl in the ~rts, that eighl llf'\YO'io~:es o.re agajnst lt :~nd I !rope that after M:uc-b 19 my Olll'n proviooc tnat~:,o it nine. At any rate-. I ad: the t•rime Mlnist~r if eight troopers ar~ marcbing down !be street and ~>~ is wt of .s.tep, who is :'11 f:t1.1lt;!

The- truth U that a oom1nittee- of the: 8ri tjs:h House of C<lmm{)n$ has stated lt "'()uld be improper for BritaJn to arru:r.u} tbe Constitution witJ•out the broad apprO'I'aJ of the l)fon·ini:~:c. Tbc: truth is that the Plime M'ini5ter has been less than f<Mthcomin.g about 111·hat he and his ministers told tho Bri1ish Ptime Minister 111\lUld be In tl1e ~l$titutional pailigc. and about what &uarantees sbe. gave c=Qocerning its passa{te through the Briti~b PariW.me.nt. That is very ilimp&c:.

Why, thc:n, uro the trained sca.ls on the IJ(Wc:rnmeru .side of this House afr:tid to tell this: Emperor Ne-m t.h:lt he is fiddl ing while Canada bum$? Wb)' are they unwilling 10 do what is right i n~tead of what bis tight hoo. highnes.i wams? b: tb~rt~ rtO

ooe O!Jc:r tbere who will btJi the .;ut! Why is tbat! Is a c:sbinc:t IX)$1 (If the job of parliart'ltflllU)' ilccrttary W()tth the sellout or oon!IC:ienoe?

I did not oomc to this House for petsooal positlon <w e;ain. I now -.·ant to '!l<'arn Cnouclian i.n general and membe-rs or t.he opposition in partieu l ;~r ~guin a.gainsl the three Tt-t.he trauma of tbe Trudr::au t~tisc:. thi5 insidious ploc to change q~1r a.rc:ul Canada into a watered df)Wn re_pQbiic:,

Does fear of I he libcraJ PM1y prevenl bac,kbencbl!rs from .speaking their minds on thh dlluc! Are ba~bencbers afraid o(

the living deoth that has befallen w me of their coUea8ues lik:e 1't.u:ner, &sford and othcN who dM'e(l to speak out in opposition znd il) lkfJOnoe of tbcir lcad~r and •he Prime Minister? Art: the)' :•r~id or limbo. o{ Co\•t:ntty. ol pu.rgl1toryt Will ao one oo the- Libt:ral side .-and up agains• the l"rime Mtnts-ter and tcll him he i~ wn.mg- dc.1d wrong? Will tiO Otle tell him tbut be bas go.ne too f:ut l.,: ther(' no ooe wbo will oppo!lt him in o1rr $1eody match t~·ard a prc$id-c:ntill system of go.,•.:rn· ment? We mu.st suffer J)(Wo'er at llny price bocau.se ol one t"an'$ v:tnhy. Ld caeoh go"'etnment n1ember a~k himself or hctSC.Il if he or ~Jhe would buy a ltSCd ear rl'()m •hat man, If Slutk.:speatt· ..-·c~ over on tb.is: .side be "ot'Otlld look ae~ the oisle. aghast, and I 111m ~JUre he would intone, "You bi()Ckll, you $(00C$. )'Otl "-WSC than Sen.,dC$$ things."

An :tdoJertisemc.nt in Tit~ (ifobt and ,I,Jail or JanUOJ)' 23 ins.ertcd by r.he National Citiul'ls' Coalition-

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6. Dlln't ••• Olt• •• lt)'hll tollull)'lh& (WO"~.

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-1>-."U tiM ... ome. 1 ask hoft I'M':m.bt:r. ir '-heY JU~eMbu lhe fiPt a . aeotie

nu• •taG C':I~IICIS apn. ~ a.ad price 00111U'Ois and thclt in~poMd thee~ a rew 11108&111 later'! llat is t.bl: mu who ..._llts to rc4o 011r COMlitljttioe. Do llley I'CO'ICIDbu tile: riJ.ilt t.o.. ltntk•u • IIIo prodl_imcd the War Mcuu.rt:5 Act. Ma;

pcodcd tlltc buk kpl n,hu of aD Cuadians. suspt'lldcd bs.bc:u .,.. aftd ioa.mnwd ~ lll.od~ Qllcbcc;m; ror lotrll pedocb •itlllout clu.raa bdaa laid. wbca a few people with SIO aftd 1 ~lllrd:l)' alpt spcw;iaJ'" were 1tuddtltd it1 a c:dler ~where?

~e Ita•. Me•~rt: Oft. ob!

Mr. o.,.tJ> S,..t.f'f: Order, pleNe. Order. pk:a.sc. The boo. acmi!Jer for SflnCOI S.tll (Wr. Stcwan) las the: floor.

Mr. S4t"WS~t: Rccncmkr lk ript kMl. a.cntlemu who atlowcd tlle 1\nt ucrct ub.l ill Cutda whca ne• the ~bltJa were laid .t«re:tl)'7 I prac:IUtd a motioft unO« $undin.J. O.dtt 4l r«ruadn.a '" spotou to my* frknd Pttc:r WOf1hi~J.~Ion, Tilt TIH(Jitt() St111 tdilor who qs al$9 t:harted. T hat appc:oJ (Ot u apoloty WIIIO ~avail.

Remember the riabt hoo. aenUeman wbo promised c.hceper C)il aftd &11-1 1t the. pump. and tiO\tl' has fi"'eo 1.1$ the bl.&hest &IU p~iou in hltlory, higher prkc11 th;an " ere ~·er oocuoempbtcd in tbe CI'Oibic bud~J:etl Reme.mbu the ri.gbt boo. g<n'llttnao ... ho 1\as al-.)'11 .akt tl\at he '<'ould prder a republic to* monar<:hy and tiOW Is u)ina: 10 aivc '" one? Rcme:mbu this ti.ch1 hoo. 8(lntiC:Il1&B-<

Mr. Ena11: A peolnt or order, Mr. S~kt:r.

Mr. O.,.ry Spnbn The bon.. member ror Otu•·• Cerure (Mr, Evaft•) riHUII a poi111 of order.

Mr. 1£.-a• Mr. Spc~\cr. J Ne • a poiot of order 11'tdet Studifla o..r JS., I tlttirtlt it is q11hc dear W.1 Uis spcedl has bra ..... n.an• riot.au. or SWidiQa Ordct Js after aaotW. ~ to &ca.dlaoe's it iJ .p:ite ctcv 1ha1 tile -.puutioa of 11110th'CI \o member:~ a bd-.: cthc:t thu tw:.o.,.. ab&e: AI CIOMJ'If)' lO tlrw r.ta.. 0. paae I U Citu.ioa 126.(2) «~ .. fol~s:

Wiltldtt IIW.l ...,. ........ .,,..~ • _._,lly, it thl1 lA: ... illl)o .......... _,.-.ct~-1 would twpc:M thott abo lootuda tile: n:adinz of material. quote or tmquotc.. 1.1\01 lu~ the tffect aiMI inteation ol bnputin,a molitW lhlll•,. simply t nd (actu.aUy not true.

SG•e Mll. l\te•"tt: Htar, bcart

Mr. OtPIII1 Spnkert Thla b a question that tnu.. been raised before in the oouNo or t.hc <kbute. Tbc Chair has aucmpttd to bear In mJn<f remarb that bavc t:e~mc: from both sides ol the Uausc and on ocn.•ion hill aJ);od tbe hoo. member OOhCt:rncd 10 rcphnM hit remarka in 111.1cl! li •·•y as to ~ay "ithln parllamtt11try ~"'lt· I am twe it is the. intentiott. of the:: IM.MI member not to violate lbe r~la of this House. and I irt\'itc him to t1k:c tlote of t ltecomrnc.~~t that hu btu! made.

Mr. T a)tw: A poi•• of order, 1-h. Spd.ktt.

Mr. nr,..,. ~Tile Q . ~~~m~~ foe S.O., Riw:r- (Mr. Tayb) c. a PGi•• olordef .

Mr. Tt,Jtor. Mr. Spc;tktt, I **' risiiiJ 011 <~~ poiat o/ Clt'dct. Tk aaioN ol tlrw Ubcn .. luft imputed IDI)ft' mot....._ more .ot-. ~f•l ud aa.I'CUlk-

Mr. OtpaC)' Sfnl «r. The hon. member for Bow Rivet i5 ftOC

niJina• polllt of order. as he~

Mr. Ta)'tofl h is u, aOOd a point or order u tbci~ wu.

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Mr. OtJNIIY Speaker: Tbc Chair ball ~rvcd •h~t th"c has bttll .:'1 ot:rt.1in latitude on lxnh t>idu Q( t he House in thill dcb;tte. Tbe hon. fl'ltmbt:r who has tbc floor MlllndM::atcd t hAt he h.as taken ~cot the mau".

Mr. Stc:w•rt: Mr. Spt;tk.cr, I rcc:ognize &Jid r'C'lJ)CCI tbc Chai.r. I might $3-Y that I made my remark$ witb tonauc in chctk.

1t ••ill take a Iona time to 0\'croome. tlte lw>!ltilily q( the proYii)Ci:aJ t<Wemmet~ts whidl was bl'()ught <~blxn by the OOYI· stitutional aod «<et@,)' pofide$. h • •ill ta.ke a long thne to f""'pture l.he IMI$( of Wf$tCfn Callada. The N;ation.ll Encr&r Prosr:ul'l i$ 5Uppooed to bf!. f<W Can<ldf.lnization, and that b 9()To.e11ting all of us d~ire. HO'II>'eV«. it is nothin.& shl,>rt or conr~tio~t dl'\llp:d in the robet ol a outionalization knowB as Petrc>Can which really stands for the H.:~o. Ple1'1t. £11i1>tt l r1.1deau ruining our Cli i!Oida. Our S)'mbols of n:ttk>nhood-che flag. t11e anthem and the Con.1titutk>n- sbould unite us. lnsttmd, ,.,.e are divided at ru~~'Cr before. Trust h:u dis .. dp.ltcd and vanished into the air because of tbc- irrei(lQn.iible and suiC-idal ;,ctions or t his go-.·emnltmt. In another idealog)' tbf:s type of goo.·ernment would b.:: co1Ued a dictatorslljp, The U bmll Party of Canada hat> fallen on very dark days.

Mr. [~am: Mr. Speaker. I rise oo a point of order. I thinl: the c.•ceJses referred to in StJindirt.e Order 35 are quite dear here, and I ask l11.2t thl!' bon. membe-r be broug.t1tlO ()rder.

Mr. lhpuly Sp.taktr: I b:'lvt be:eo lis-tening to tbd point. aod tbe Ch.air is paying c:~rcf~l attention to the rtnarles being made.

Mr. Stt .. ·an: Mr. Speaker, 8.5 I w-as -saying, the l..ibero.l Party o( C.::tn~dll hM fallen on datlc day:i. 1'bc onc;c great party of taurier. King and St. U~o~rent has been reduced to a moothpiccc for a retrc:ulcd socjalist. the last ot tlte :~o-e;aiJedbut mistlamcd, in m)' opinion-wis-e men. Th-e Liberal Patty !all bee-n t<1ken 01>-er physically as w~l as idoolot.ically. Tbat ill unfortunate. Tht shoep urc tontcnt to bleat awa)· u..s they folio"' th~ w(llf, to abandon their prineipl~ and desert thcir p;u1y'.~> beliefs alld tcl'lets. Ail {)noe :~tatcd verv aptly b)' the late Sir WiostOtl Churchill, ""They arc sheep in sti.:cp'il clothing".

If we· let this sovernmtnt h:1vc its """>' •·e ... m lose theitnpcmant rightS we nOW 1\;u-e. t he rights which dillti.ngui$h a democrac)' frmn a dictatorship. The f'M'lt tm~ic ()( riJI.hts is the indh·idW~I '5 .euarantce or tbt enj())'menl of property without fear of confiscation by the state.

In 3 r:sdio broadcast on September J. 1944. Pope Pius XII lltah.:d, and I quote:

Pl'i•.o•c ri"C'P«\Y if a n.~uor.ol l'ruil ~r l1~r. t prodllcs M 1111~1\!C .. ~ivily Q( moJn, ~uott<l l.lloN11$h loii """' P!io;: 4~mn1nat!OII 111 ~n\crc aid' d- lop with - q-o.•a l!t~lh hi_,""" ta:imlln< e~ llAI d lilit family. •net to crttlt r« lili!Ncf/ lllld r()< hi' {YNII r.& e~ol(t d ju~l rrwf11111, 11ot o.1)• (!(0~-..JifCI. fJul t Jul l><.olilie<l, .....t.unto~d rdlgl<'lm.

Tbc Vir&ittia bill of rights., the parent o( aU Amcric.,n bilb of rights. in Junt , 1776, slated, and I quote:

The COIIStirutft»r

Thu .aD: *'ll ll<c loy "'-'"~ ~lly frw .,nd inckpt1Kkn1. ar.J ~Ye ccll.liol inll<l'ml ,.;v.1J. oi •hKh, "'kll l\cycnr« iuoo ~t..:lt~ of So~X!c..y,d~ Cl<ntl(lll t,> any~~~ dc('riYf ~r di~ 1htif pM!trll), lltm.ly, llc aoj>ymcal ;,( lif~ and libc:r I)', wr..11 Ill! mc'lfl (!( I~ a11<1 ~~Ill flf'QI)m:)', Ud P'INIIi"* ••d <'~lbioitolf t..ppitc!1t r...,! Mrcty,

Our right to pt'Opei1y 'o\'U fiNt ll~,;crted in tlte Masna Cartt aod b:l.S steadily bee~t reMSKr1cd. in tbc oourts and in statute bw_ 1t w-..u. reot:~sened in John J);efenlxl.ker's Bill of Rl$}11l.li!nd in fhc United Natiom eharttt of ltum:·m right$~

Another right we will lose is lDdiridual froe.S.,m from being impriSIOOcd for 1ne-rt-pOlitic,! ()ppc.XSition. This is notlhe Sovitl Uni<m or Chin;a; thi$ i5 Canada. yet uDder a sccti41• ot tb~ proposed Constitution the War Masun!:'S Aa is inoorporated in1lhe tlew Coo~titutic)o.. Under it . if a pemm«<t ""'isbcs, one c:m be senl to prison for mete political :tgiu.tion. t'he !trl'ern· ment does not b:wt to wait for one IC) ac;t or to make an acqual uca:sonable. m(We. If the 80\'crnment C\'eB "apprebcods" an insurn:<:tioo, the government can mo¥e.

"'.t.pprebension'• i.s defined ln the d iction;u-y a$ a state of mit1d ot a l110U3ht "' foc:ling <1!.1 opposed to reality. ~ Apprtbl:ll· $;ion!" <.:~~n be tommiuod by placard c-.urtcrs, people who Y(l>i~;c 4lro.n, politicaJ opittiOM-JlUCh :l-f mf$cl(- und even strikers. If you e11d up in t he $lummcr 01 vktim of an apprebtl'ldlld in~u.rrectic:>n . do noc CXJ>«'I due ptOIX.SS ol bw.• or a speedy trial. Habeas corpus. our guarantee of a s-Jk!cdy tri.11. is g.oo~. and i1 "''as g.ooe Otlce be((.r<: under tbc War Measures Act. 1t i$ rtplnc;cd nq,.• in this proposed Cotlstitutioo b)' a n~w law which ILl~ tbt CO'fCmnlt tlt 10 dctld-t what &$ a "'rea$OilOibk time"' 10 brin.g a person to tri:al.

The &ovetnr:htnt i$ ~·en permitted to bold off election$ if two~thirds of Parliament agrees with tbc "apprtbcmioo" that thenc is or coold be an inturrecttt.>n. I am <~1armocl :tl thjs assa:u.lt on tbc right$ or the individual a nd at thill h:tuh approac-Jt to our moot futldamental of right$.

The Banft lhln~~tr, a loca.l tltY.i paper in my c;on:~t,itueney, is 001 weJJ klkW<n M a T<wy nc'I'I'$1XJ.!XIr or for its all~t suppi)tt for t.he: Member or Parliament for S imooc. South. An editorl.1J in (hat ne•'Spaper on Febru3ry 18 st:a tes:: "Pilcl:;~ge won't do' ', h goes oo at great le-ngth 10 tldl •by the police cbief$ of tbe oot~ntry fed th:ll wuy. The editorial read~ in {!Qr:t as fOil~·$: 11 .. _, 9o:t(:..!Ji!IJ!)' ~Ill 1-Ml d!C- J:OO'elfllllmt's Ulllltillotk'lnalp.o~~~~l' III!U ~ ff.rr-v. the win of lilt pwfik, r.ll'-8:" tllt<U~i<Nt ;., i~lf iu upNJ!<'d 11)• oil ~r ou "'M 1lllnl: In t!fi'IC "'tc .,,allodO\ItdtUeou4.Js.od rtlatiouhlp ~ h•~t WilhBrit.liol.

We all agree with chat. h also say t h01t the pol)i:e <lSSOC:ia· tion. and I quote: - is Co)il<ll:rlltd 11111 the l~sl~liillo ... m loo;: -w rro~«tivf. or ci>il ri£~•thu crltflt lburilac:s, ¥ 1ll11: law uof<"o.>~:fll(llt is rq'l!olc.«<ly c~KIIl4tod. •

The artM:f.e ends as foiJow-s: We .,.;u ,.__,kilO"'' how imi>C'ftU( our lffldW.mrnt P<"">eA h) he, We 1!1.~ nt;tl{

pt~_,.li0111Ufdy •1!1.

In rutlty this $1Xa.llcd c1Mu1er of rights i$ doin~ for our right5 wh:n Juck the Ripper did for door to door seltitlg.

Over t he )'«<ts the pre.sc:nt Uberal goveff'ltnetu ha.s ilttempt.· ed IQo reduoe tbe role of tbe motl3rtby and ab<) to $ubni1utc. in terms of the statui! or th.: Queen, the Governor Genel'.tl as our

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Tltt ColtMit~tio" head l>f St:\11:. Whttl Mtmben o( ~~~rli:.mtnl tlllki." thci.r oatbs.. I remind them that the)' affirm fldelin• and IJII(:I.iunc.:e I() the· •nooareby; od~twise. they canllO( take their sw.ts in tbi.s chumbc:r. In 19JI und~::r the S1..11n1e of Wettminsttr Canadi· ans ebose to rc.taio the monatd'ly. In ~X her words.. Cun.o~dinn$ <Natlted to retain the C01\$1Jtutiooalmonar~hial $}'Stem or gov· ernment und to be roembcr$Qf the O:Mnrt•<>n,~•~ l tlt of Nations.

The Constitution i ~ no ordinary law. h is a fundamentul docum~t rc$po::ti.n.s ()Ur n~tirnl hOild. lt mull kr'\'t not only the noo& of today but also SC:r'\'C the noe.ls ()(our chikfrcn. BttauS:t the. Co.mitution is se. fundanlcn tal to this oati\lo, it sbould not be ;utitr.ui.ly imi)C)$ed by :wy i>ne Individual or govenunent. The Constitutiort should be brought bome w tllat "'~ Cam.adi:sn$ Q n ~bante it be"' (()r l>un;ch•C$.

The position of tbe Conscn·ptive P~~tty on the Cool>litutioo rcnecu the .,..•m of tbc. ca,l3di:atl people. After :tll. it was our pany uockr tb-c le.,dership of the Right l-hm. John Diefttl· baker which gave C.anadians tbcit fir~t c.harter of rishts.

So•t lwltt. Me-m~ Tim(~

1\t_r. S te•,...rc: Mr. Spt~l:er, I •·Ill clo.>e:, ir my thne is up. by sa:,•ing to the backbencher:; on tbe oppqsite side thlll it only td:e~ 20 of them to tell the Prime Minister the:,• will ''l>lt pgltioi!'t hi.l' unil\llt~::r.ll p;1triad1>fl of tbe Cor'lSiitutioo unless he calls the provincial premiers. t<Jgtthu -.>n<: s:n<lfc time 10 ~d: unat1i1nity on an :hneDdln,s. formula and a charter of riahts u~oept.:tble to ;all in thfs lol()u:it: in llhon. a eo~-nuive federalist country 'o\'ith the grtatest futurt in t he rr« v.·orid.

So111e llrlon.. M~fi!Nl6; Hear. bear!

So•t ~ M~•bf.rs:: Oh. oh!

Mr. BiJI Vuko.net (Hs.5tl~t~:s•Jo'rUt~ ten•c:•Lta•u,. •1111 Addi•~toe): Mt. Spcaket. I am pic:md to have this QPS>Onu· njty to spt;r;k qr, \leh:ll( or my toll3tituenu of Hsstings-Fronteoac-Lcnnox and Addiogton in this Camu.lian CIQ(I~titutM>nal do!bate.

As a muion Canada m~y nl)l h;n-c: ;achihi:d :dllt •night. but v.•bcn v.•e look about, we see that con<l itions oouk1 b~ve been m~o~eh wo~e. That is .. ·hy I arn toi)CCtl\cd about t.he present govctnmenfs attitude resarding unil<tter;sl ch:m,tt. Cban,s.e le;1ds to furtbtt ebange. aOO an)'OOe who think.s the proposed change::; Jx:ing dp(lUl;td .are tin'tdc-ss ill only fooling himself. Howe"·c:r, C:halt$t i$ incvitttble <tnd, i_f done JIC'C)pc::rl)' :lnd lrt an ordetly man.ncr, wiU be rcspccted. even if not OJ(Jc:od to by all.

As 11 nation Qof nearly 114 yearil we have 11.:-en what lool.:cd lite disastrous c:~"'tnts at oenain times. but as time passes we ba,·e round they were OOI)' inddc.nts in the de~·clopment of our nation, Tbe un.k.no.,·o in this gre;ll t.'{)lmtry whkfl hotds so 1t1ueb promise i:s of eonecto eo me. Our way of life. to 11 c.>MMkrd!ole eucnt. i$ new itt bum.ttl history. Under our present S:Yltem of gzy.·crnmcot we tlave m<wtd t(Jw-.trd elimi113t· ing 1)0\'crty, aOO we ha~·e cut down iJJness to a dcgr~e wh.ich h<~os n<)t bettl sc:c~• dse-wl1erc. We hilve spt~.ad opportunity for cdtKatioo Wrougbo11t the <X)Untry. \Vc ha ve. rn;sintained a bi.g,l1

degree of hstmony between freedom and (lrdct uDder the present divit ion of fodcraJ and provincial powers.

As a Conscrvuti~ I ~kc ~ oon~n·:uive view of what 'o\'C are today and what we must do to m111ke th.c: future btnet. We. mu:~t t~ke a Jlf'()tt'd."'ivc: step in maintaining a spirit of ntlliQn• ali.sm. I do not bdl<"''e we ~oo;an k&lslste « ord~r the will l<t continue-as il .utio11. Because ol thjs belief I llllv~ taken the. vie"'' d1at eonstrv:eti~m ill not a r..tkwllizat.ion of w~1 eKi~ but a r.uionali:tation or what "''ill exist., and I ptay that what .,.ill c.lil'f is a oaru:etvsti~ order. One muM fil'llt make what one i.1 to eons«ve.

Ha\·ing rt:Specl fOI' the put. bec.lu!jC i)f what our forefatbcN did nnd bcduile of 'What Wt has et~abkld u.s to 00.. doe<~ oot mean adoptin~ it anti bcc:oming Sl:1vts to it! just a.s we should not change for the 53.i:e of chan,ae.

Canadtt h~t~ !IV"'" (lut ol a wildc.tncss., in " hul'llh <:liNtc, thtou~h the heanache of falc and btslde powctfulocighbours nnd natural bilttien. but under a Sf$tem Q( ckm(lCTacy whkb has&etved tbe le$1 of' time.

As we. look back 10 our anocstor:; with ' 't.rY deep gratitude for all tbeir indu.itric:m'l endea\'Ours-the rc:sults: ql ""'hi<:h ~'C ha,'t inherited-we gi.,e them "edh f()r their wi~om it1 bylng cbe found.i~tiOII on wblcb we may from t ime to time ttvhe to m«l rwa· chaiJenge$. A::~ we tty to imprtn•e the system they lefl. "'-e may find OUr'$Ch>es ("''cn m()rc: 3ppr«iati~e uf their foresight in not prov~i n,s. a n ta5)' way of cllaogins i)ur $)St~o'1n or CO''tmment.

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Tbe roea and women .,.,.he) est.ablished this nation in 1861 wae brave and wise people. Tbey were BOl pbilowphieal tbeorisUI like- l)l:sto •ho framed his Republic.. They .... e:re- not g.iftcd witb SCCQnd $ight 1.0 show thttn tbat wit.hin 114 years the population would i.nereuse $0 much. that our natural rc:suurcc:s .... ·ould be so vast and impon.,nt to our $~11d;u-d of livin$- and I hat ltV;Il$port:stit.>n by ltt.nd. water. air and pipeline would re"\·cJutionize our way of living. Neither d.id tbty know of dte del.'1ronic OOf.llmunic:ation S:)'Stem which "''OOkl become eO!t'ttl\OOpiSCC. \Vba( tbey did Wl.13 I() COnSUUct. within their $00pc: of t,nuwkd_ge. "''itb a spirit which was ide;~listi<:: and with bands: that were pr;u:ti~l. a foundation on which many nu:cs and eulrurcs oou)d find firm rl)(l(.ing :u one united nation knownllll C:~.nad.i.

We have ('(:aChed out present standard of living because of our IKritagc, .. ·bich is our past that we put into t]le prl:!ic:nt for tbe purpose of fC''iew. from Uur p;l.$'1 WC- i~hcti tc:d the ~hit- of h:lrd work. making do witb what "'C bu<l; then by improving it while auc:nding to lllw: busi~~~ ol today and: prepcaring fm tomorrow. From our more remot(: a.nc:tstors we ltal>e inherited lhe hu•~•ani!njc spirit of tbe Greeks 01nd tl1e Rensisssnce. cm~u.irin.S the: dit 11ity or men. t.be Roman and Angh>S:s.xQn rule of law to provide £or p:<~«ful ch;1ngc lo our societ)', and the democrat«: faith in liberty, God and cqvality 10 nuke it :l trul)' rnodero nation.

Many contributi-on~ have been made to this nation by pcopk Oeclng (tom oppreu:iuo. love or Our OOUtltry i1WOives kno'o\•ing

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wba' wem imo buitdins thil nilliQn, wllu.t il is aDd what it may hocon~. Canltd:i'$ pa$.1 hM boen fu.vourable.. in tha' otde1 has pr<:\'ail~d w-ithout civil war and tn3joc di~U~Sh:r, so .,ur fu(ur~ also ~n be btight :lnd Pnhll'!'roms. Tbe sn:ates.t daf\ier lies in tbe btlkf tUt Qur pr~nt well·being junifies compboeocy. The fuHJ~ of Canada • •ill rest oo wl1Ctber we ~ppro;tth change on the b:uis or a tl'lorouih onder$Ulnding of ou.r foundutkm and of our e.xpccunioBS..

We have inherited ift trl)jl a pc)tent iul for sreatncss whiCh mullt b.: JXl.fo.'~ed (In ll) fuU.I~ s~eratiOBS. Ju~t as John Cabot wu an explorer. so are •·e. but in &pith and t:Xpe<:tatiQn. We must ootltinue to ex.plorc- dem(ltr;u;y's mandate to make this bountiful 1.1nd bc.Uer; b>· disocwering ne• · Wll.ys {)f living w.oitb others. Tbe spiril of tJtplor:ation, wlu:tber it is CJ~ploration of the !>urfiiCt <I( the ~llrlh 01 of tbe principles of Jiving_ iocludu <i~veloping t he capacity to faoe uouble wltb ooura.ge, to n:~eet disappointmem with cbetrfufnt:)S :,and to ~~pt SU«<CS$ 'A'ith humility. Our po~ trtQt i$m uM failb in democracy tcquireJ :1 spiri t that holds tbc. community together by giving i.t.(l ci ti~cns

a SC1\$1e of sharint wmc1Mns :1:s unique as l he Canadian nag. Although it i$ debal"-ble whether the present design is bes:-1, it is no~· genuoiJy atOCI)ttd ss C:lnadi:ln.

We n1:i)' ha ve differcnl person..1J traditions., cultures. teli· giom;, l.xu.i:groonds or earnin~ powcn, but we all bel·in-e ourselves 10 be ' 'it:t1 1utu of tbc (;3wul.i;~.o SOI.:i~()', This dOe:$ not me:m bc:i~tt P<l triutie in tbe sense of believing tbat our country, pravince or couoty, is ~upcti« t () :all other .s. just because we viete born llere or li~ here. True- IO'Ie of o:ne's eounlry il; nc>t th~ emotional fu.xuty or vanit)' cxptti<!ins iudr in nag • 'aving. but a sent il'l~nt cx.pr.:s.'o:d by a fi rm nand in tho: name <If one'$ Cl>1.1ntry'4 principle$, Jt i$ li ~·i ng togetbu. Sll<trins ~>f Koob i.n common, cntbus.iastic planning \lf cff«tive means to reach goals. :w :'I.Wtssivc :Hid efficient t~am oc~ion to 0\ilke SO!lt bc..>(:()m..- re;• l it~.

In our democ:ra.;y. we should sed; a spirit within indi,·idu.ab., OOt a piece. of gO'Io'ttlllile.nllllm~th inecy t() bold people together. The picture of $ d:emocratk ooonU}' is ooe of sclf·rtliant indi,·iduak vrho want 10 be-allo...,'td to do lheir own work,, l.>u• who ate also ci()Sd)' bouBd togetbec 1.>y 1he peat oommon aim that ~vc:ry<.>nc !Oc:O:.ks I~> de'I'Oole llirnsdf to hi$ country's g-ood.

Wbcll looking at Catl:ldil 'll oon~titutionu.l p11triation, -one finds it is n«.:8~ry to <:l.lt tbroogb attitudes :trtd prejudice$ • •hich have buih up for gooeratioos. ilnd t<) look. t~ t the fa~ u they arc. aDd then 10 join ~hot:rt~ 10 fix 'll'hat is fault)' and to t!:t.p:tnd uih:tl h good, TJii~ :lf)J'fi).\C,h brin~ togother p..~k: of all rao:es. languag~. po.liticel panic:.; and e:vc:n rd igioo$ in tbe realii:!tiou of tbeir ability h) <:Range this large a nd d iverse land. ll i.'lt(lry :lh0'1''4 l b<~.t tile Weak-up of Canad:s into sma Un statc.s. would be like blowing out candid in lt <:1t~tlc until all i$ da tk. lt is cleil.t t hat ptO:I{li:rit)' mmhs when piou.s. la..,.·-abidjng :md indu,stri~J pe~>plc d~·elop a civili1ation.. but ci \•iJi2:ltion ""'ill fall apan in the: midst or peuy bickering..

C'ulturt is niore tltan the Ability to perfOfm or to :~dmi tc. the <tl1s; it is the .superiority of thought. thoe enjoyrt1ent of be:tt:~ty, effons to raise oDCsclf and other.~ t () :1 l'lisbc:r f.evcl. 1t implic.s. opent)tf..~ of mind, a kn~i tivc: appreciation of hum.ail '~Sloes ~nd

Tkc C()fiJtituti()ll

t lte devtiOp.!l'ltf'lt of the pMtnti:'IJ wbidt e.ttCh indi~idual has v;ith i.n him. Cltn\ltill need:~ k adcn hip in cburcb. univc1'$i l)' <me! •he c:omnlunily, and··~ noted gO\•ernments with ~o·isioa and wilh the unbiased abilit)' to ctt&eildtt io Canildian~ a strong t'lai~On* :11 fet:lin,& a.nd ;e ..,..illh f<lr individu;cl :adnn~o:comcnL Certaielly Sir Jobo A. ~~~~c4ooald and J~>hn Diefenbakc:r bad tbis ability. h is not .so much :l oew idoo&o,gy that i:J needed. as an cart.est .spirit •·hide v.·ill :sumin t he pt()plc Qf this gre;1t nnlion in soeking a good life in Ibis wooderfulland*

I ln)'St ff eflmlOl define, lend I d<Jubl whdhi:r :cny<ine else <:u.n, c:xt~.clfy 'll'ltat sOOuld be contained in a C~>nstitutil>n or cban« o( rights simply because the. rights vihicb il should OOnlain tnn be· a rgued c:ndlt:.$$1)'. A ch.-ctec o( right.$ 'll'()tdd ,give people a f«Jing of $CI.nl.rity and be an integrating force whic-h would bring pol)pk t(lgdher. J lqwever, it mu$1 n<Jt be: uten ((lr atBlltod tbot in itself il will fote\<cr guarantee- frc:ed~>m to indi\'iduals. There are man>' examples whc~ this is 00( dte ease:. A nation lUCh :t.'S C'.an:.uJ;t i$ uniGu.e :end ill in iuelf un ethnic and cuhural emit)' tied co~thtf by .wch foroes as lilngu3..ge. IU~toty,ccchoology and outlook.

Many cQunt rielO in tbe 'a'()l'kl •ocL,y h~~ written el.>nliliU)• tions using all kinds of grand wor<Hng and slogans and oontain· ittg dabor.ue bills of righu. Tbcrt .i ~ more I() C:Tt:l tinA :'1 just :111d worbble OCJ0$1i llllion tbao potting it into words. A(tc:m!)4.s by many oounuies to transla te i.nto chaplet and verse a systctn wMcb hiiS 1:\ken ()ur ~)'lilt-m many Centuries !() dcw:lop hil.'lled to dlsappoinl.in& resulls. Great Britain has no 'll'rit(en Q)fl$lilu* tion, yet it enjO)'S oonstitutjon.al g_o-.·erf'lnltnt with limited and :t('(()Untilblt- rule:. Mln)' wQU.Id ars11~ tb~t tho; fund~mcntal laws or G~t Britain. along_ v.•ith a basic 113tional oonsensus. art: in rea lit)' 1't10f<: real oonstitu lil>n whkh is more frequently oblerved in pracd<:e than most olber wri tcen and codiFied coMtitutions.

The supreme laws or Britain and Canada ace perhaps mosl aptly desctibcd in Rl)usseau•s •·otds: "N01 AttWtn in tableu or bro11$;S, but (In the lturl$ or the: c:hiten''·

A nuti<mnl CQcutitution C(MIId be de:scf'ibod <a$ ltn ()(fi~oi;d grouping of prinQples aDd rules ,.,bich set out the liO\m.:.:s, uses. purposes :'100 rcsttain.u. of public ~·er. To this eM, <:l.>n8till.ltionlll ~udie:s l:lhoukl look bc.y~>nd wriucm documents to oonstilutionaJ pra(tices. judkial interpretations.., general laws, cu:uoms i!l'ld tradition.

In Gteat Btitil ln. 0\'C:t <:et'lluties <If time. coooem for nulnt.11 ining d u.· fund:ement11l right:s whic:b we Uke t'(Jr grilntcd today pew iogctbcr wilh the gro-.·lb ol dctUOOtatic gO\'<:rn* mtnt. Rril3in has 11() - ·riuen constitutiQn, and no decbr:uion ()f tbe liberties or the illdividual e;tiStS in Britisb llaw. The principles set out In such bistotic documc.nts as tbe Magna Cafta ()( 1215, t11e l•etiti<~n of R.ight of 1628, the Hal!o:as C«pos A« or 1679, I be Bill of Rights of 186?, und the:: Act of Settlement or 1701 fOfm a basis-Cor tbc- Englisb com.tim ion within which the 3M'trnment lf'luS.t show d ue rtgtttd fM th.: righl.s ~nd libertie:s of the:: citjzc:n.

The txWt t iahls in these <:onvenHon.s. m~y be defined .a~ tbc ria.Ju to per.sonaJ s«<tity. the richt to personal liberty and the rl,&b1 eo ovm private. ptopert)'. Und~r the British systt1n, a

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Tl" COJutiruti<#l pcrsoo is froe to do and to say 'il'h:st he likes provided he does not bt'tak the dtablisbed rule <If law. If hill fn:edUfns and right:s ;are infri:naed. there arc remediC$ in tl-.e 'ourn. Under tbe British cot'llmoo Is•• system. C~o'tJ)'tbing in 1eneral tbat is nQt .ipeclfi<::all)' prohibited by Jaw U ls..ful. Napoli:<lnk 13'111' or oodilied s~tems of hl'A' $\ICh 4111 in the U.S.S.Ft. "'()l'k in tile opposite fssbioo: (.\'C:rytlting that is noc specifically mentioned is forbidd<!ll. We should b(:. prOud 41 bur htrita.&e a nd fiDesystem ""'hich flas worked so ""'C:IJ, and be c.\·er walc.bful of c:b:ln.gc for the sste of c.fungc. Why \I'Otlld anyone. tt:all)' w:~nt tocb).lnge sm::h :a g(N)d !;)i:t.o:m .t$ our$~

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We in C.1nada h;aYe foiiO'Ito'C:d tbc British :S)'slem of ~'ern· ment aDd it ha:s sen-cd us well. A den1ocratie society v.'bich rt:l pe1.'U the ru!IC h flaw is tl"" c:n~)' (J( JlOCIPk ;uound the 'o\"()f'ld. We h11ve, as in 6ritain 1tnd Au:.~tr;•JU.. ;1 H;•dition of a,~n,.ti tu· tiorull practice c:haraaerizcd by tutderstanding, a sense of foir pl.-y, adherence· «1 th~ rule or J;a""'• :1 ~igll rlnt oppooitioo. a free press, PQblic opinion und \l ltimate OQCOOnl<lbility 1brout h th<: fret. :lnd SC(fel blllot. To ch3nge. wch :'1 worlcabk a.OO rC$pcct· cxl sy~h:m for tlk sa"c: of ehang< and f<lr t.he unk1w,;..tn requires proof that <.1t1r s~tcm is not uoceptable and ass.urao~;c thill we would be bwer off "''ith arlotbtr system. I do not reel such u Clll:IC l1:t~ bt.:rs ma1k: b)• the: pre~ent .g(ffl:rnment for such unil.awal 'banae.

Tbe Sq.·iet Unioo bM a writtw 'onsti tut.ioo wbicb sv~.1>1n • tees human rights. But all the righas and frcedoms in that dtx:unN:tl1 are n->t W<lfth t he p.:1pc:r they ;arc: 111TiUcn <In b<<::luilc: the Soviets do not honour them. Tbue is c..pficit and c,,te.nsi\·e Jlm~e. boeat~Se o()f s ODt·p:my system aod no fr« <~t secret bali<.IC. I vi3itc:d tfle S<.wic:t UnM:m ~nd 5Jx*c: to the C(lmm<M• person there: believe me:, J would not fea\'C Ca nada with it:s unwtittM oons-timtioo for the US.S.R. and its written ooostitutiun.

Thee is ;1 VJI$1 di((erc:nce bet wt.-en wrhtcn righb :snd :tCtll.:'l.l rig.hts. In oomparing constitutional practioes in various W lll)o ute,. we SJte there Is ln practice li ttJe- rtbn.ionsltip between d~lllrA tion$ {)f rish t:~. 'A'rittc:n gu;:uantce~ q( rizhtll and fro:>:· doms and the 11ctual right.~ of ~iti zens.. Australia aod Greut Uti !.:lite make M dtc!aratio•u... )'tt there :tte. few infrin.gcmenu: of rights, th;anb to such ch«b ~» I he IQ''ernment, H-.~;: opp~t~i · tioo. d1e judiciary. freedon1 of tbe press aod tbe ' itilenry.

In oontrast. counuies sucfl as the SO\•iet UnH>n.. Argcnti.na. Brazil :lnd C2tch0l1IOYakia have in tbeir 'A't1Utl\ constiwtions general :StOJ.tem~nLs and specific Jll<ar.totccs or fundMJtcnto.e.l rlghu :lnd liberties, but we bear repons that these: oou.mries do not re~prtt tht.n1, 111nd wt heat of many abwes ~1th lint.e <:beck on arbicrary e:c.ecutive power.

The" CQITI})Arbon• indkutc. the i!lfldequ;u:y of wriuen oon· sti tutional guarantees of human rights. GO'o·ernmeots aod ci(i· tellS mu.!ot ~poet ""'bat ooru-1.itutt! :\rty oonstitutioll. 'l''riuco or un.,.rittCJI. if it is 10 wor'k. 11 $C11;1Tl$ -~:k:ll r th:lt writ ten CQMtitu· tiooal guarantee-s alone. are ncitbcr neccssar)' nor sufficient to gu~r;mtte tbt· exerd~l;! (){ fundamental bt~man t i$h1S. Wbcrc rigbts lltre.,dy C'.'C.ist in prilctice, tb.rough tru<fi.ti<)f)$, 1.'<.1'wcntthus

and respect for the rule of law, writing them llhwn lli.S)' nut be 1*Ce>.<~ary. Wbe1e su<::b rig, but ooly ex.ist in th«Jory, writing lh.:m OOwn will not hocii'-

We arc ooe qf the few countrie~ sn tht- 'A'<Irld withoul ;1 written ~onstitutioo. )'tt we ha\'C: rights o.OO f~l)m$ in C;~n:1d:1 st"COnd 10 aone .. W~ ba\•t Inherited our &)~em from Great Britain, and it hM11er~o:l U!; well. h1Sh:ad M all this b lk about "Brit-OOshing ... we should 1ake tbe time to reme-mber from ""'ltcre ou:r fine 5yiltem of dtnloeratic @0\'crnmenl eamo:, We ba\•c: Inherited a 5f$1CJtl thu.t .5em:s C:u\ada ;1., an indcjli:ndcnt 11:ltfou ~·ell.

Any cbant.es to :suc:h <1 line ,sy;;tem <If @:h\i:n une:nt should be <::hllilg<S for the beuer. Changes imposed oo P'rtntl'll ln <tur fel,'lc:r.al ;syftcm (If gm•.:rnrnel'lt Yo'lth which they s.uon.g.ly diso· g.ree would not seem to k cltM&'-~ fiX the bette1. Conset~sus in a ftdet:ttioo is Certilinl)' neoe.ssary. I 8PJ>rO'I''C: putrillti<)n o( th.e ONA Act to C:uu da, but any changes 10 that act should be done in Can11da by Canadiaru; as po.rt.ners io wr $)'litem.

Our tnuJiliQn .and (lur •'<lfkllble. ll1"f proven Constitutjon should ~WM be unilateral])• changed. R~;:btioru: with our traditional ally. Gf~t Br1t:'lirt. sbould nol be unDC«:Ssarily stn.ainc:d when this i$ nhl ni:oessary or desitable. The fcderut g.m·crnment shook! noc fotget ll\o1t the uni•>n of tht ...adous provin.cts created Canada.

\Ve dQ m)t need .anotl1er <::l>lintl'y to change our l:aw.s for us. We do not nood to create problem$ ftn Orc:ll Bt iuin by the fede1al ~'tl'nment tJ)•ing to .shift the hetlt ll(l1~S tt.e QC'Clln ()n

u.n il"Sue 1U impOrt:w t as the one created b)' tbe pn:swt g~·emment, This i:S nQC fui.r t(lany~lf'lc 2nd shl)uld not be sectl :u 11 sel (·set~in.g_ opening fOf tile Prime Mini$ter (Mr. Tr~J• deuu) an&J hjs govc.rmnttll to dri~e io a wedge aod wcd:tn our strong rela1ionship to bolb Gre111 Orit11in :tnd thi! n100arc.hy.

The. Statuti:· of Wc5tminMc•, 1931 rceo~li ilCd tile:: autOOOifl)' of the \'arious domioions and ccuJed whale\·tr discretionary right tlst . British govemme111 st ill bad to legislate cm bchJlf of the dominioo~ i.nduding C:t e1ada. w~ ;Jre in (:l\'l)ur \l( a ~barter \11 rights. but do not ra,oovr

unilateral im~ition of :such :1 {;h:• rt~r in the f!'lro of stt'Of'l& OfiPO!'iliOII from a majority of tho prO\'inoes and of C:m:edi~;~n1. Tbi:s indicatts a denial of Can:lda's federal nature. si.nce the prO\'i.nccs are partners in tile <..":a n;~di ~tn fedu:Hior.. Tbett:foic .. wo.t renuins to be dol)(; to ereate n true .;onscn:su~ OD u ~hnrter Qr righl' iiCJ that it iil aoc:eptt.-d rather than imposed.

1'bi! bo..-1t pt(l(e(tion of fundamental rights and rreedom$: oommenoes witb tl:se eoncc-pt t11:tt rights originate. • ·hh indh•ido:llil and are not oonferrod upon people by the &~WCrn• me(lt. ~or :1 charter of ri.glus t<> be SU(CC$Sful and to oommand tt:spcct. it should reO«:t this basic principle. Whe:n a s-uitable al)d o.e.c~~l>table cii.\Jter of rights can be o.rri\-ed at, I foel such Jl

charter &boukl ha~ a prt:lmb!e "''1\iclt recognizes tlle supresNt· cy or G«<.. tbc essentiaJ • ·otth ol the hum<~~ n pc:r~n and the $pedal lmpol1at1Ce of the family i.n our :society. Tlte:se fund.<'! · meotnl ~~~l ud were in the Dldcnbak.:r Bill of Rights. We as Ca.nailians .should eruure tbllt :~uch s~.;~hle institutions which l'sdJ:.ed bUild a s.uottg Canada are induded for all to :see. I alw

Maid ). 1911 CO.)IMO."'!S DEBATES 1167

f.cl • n IIJreocl-to chatter o( righLS shoo Id Clliurc Ca.nadi::uu tM riJ.ht to the enjoyment uf prop«ty, 1u this too b~&$ been of llrcll t lmpu.rt~~;nte in the building of Otit ec'~U tltty,

The YllnQOO\'tr amcndin& fomiUIII t•«..:1m. the- cqvi•lily of ull t>rOvinces und hiu the I'ICO:SIIIIt)' <l'ltrllt tcriAtitll of llelljbWt}' tnd 41 reo•nl(m, ble n1Hiooal consensus bcfott Ill\)' anu~ndmcnts arc lppf'OV<Id, h beuer rcllccti tbt reuht)' ot tlle fodtn l nlllu~ of Cu•da. 00f'l)f)O$td or di£feret~t )'cl cqu1.1 pt~.rtJlcl'$. and provkkt a AlCJII&rd from uodut <T.ntnbUhOII.

I fed .... rtfua.l 10 a«'qql Ood tl!ld nf~ to property fiPu h ,..., another- dil&t«)' tactic f« the ~ to amatd bid illtrodlklt t.bcst IXIIIUpU, 1o ..... ,.a.tc 1hc J.l'COIIk i•to • fabe ttmc of pa~ rot pantloc.U. 80 tMt ot.btr ilnportnl ucl W-lcadlilfll ~ •ull be •""'Ptrd .-ilflout qlldiiOn abotU tht lont·knn kt.s q/ fftdrrid•~l rf&hU h WO¥id IIOIIIUtPflst me: i_n tlte least if tile aovern.mcnt inttodllitrd thae mc~~urn atrcnillJ God and ptop..'1t) ri&biJ 11 a c-:anvc.nient time to try a11d dJ.,.ert ~uc.,tl(ln from otber contr~.n·cr.Ual Mpci:tll ol1ts p;u::kage.

1'hc ConstilUiion sbouJd be Ill(. ~111111 or btu.td <:on.scm.sus ir h la tO be re.p.-ch:d IICr<m the country. We tani)QC n.m the risk of IIPIIWIIfnll sccrelil'C or Stnli o.Stct~livt 01III1111JHIOOII tl'ld movemenb as 11 resuh or unfuir, •fbi!r,uy .nll unl!.Dter•l

OOfliUtvllUI\AI ~Jtt. Some counuic' send ltbillllr)' 4i~ tit~ <I'll from the ccm.t.re <01 ptrftmt:ftt 10 t l)' lftCI ronttollho people, alld •c bear ol tbe •u•fcwh,l.ft.lltc rc:M~Itt of wch arbi· tnl')'.ctioli.

We in C.uda are bt~ta~.tt eo~ f~ o( rdtaioo aad · ·or.•lp aad (rftdom o( &.1i$CV!bly ia ordcT 10 P'•«* '*' dilfrtc:ru rclipq. Tboc Fatkrs ol CaefcdcnU.:.. (ouil'ldtd CaMdoL rccotni..tin.s the s.u.prcmacy o( Ood, t.hc lmp;,~tluc:e or the f~o~~mily :.nd pri .. te propcny. and tht: rctP«t for moral and .Jplrh~o~v..l value$. Jun like propcny ri&bU.. people havc fought tutd died o~c-r rtll~:ioo:t klkrs for ocnturiCJ kc:ause of the 111ron' fec:IJna tbey in~ti l. Tbc Did'enbnkcr l}ill of Rights fec<>a.nlzcd lbe importance of thi;o~ quali ty of C.•u.dwn life in ita wor41na.

My ridiJlll. of Hastin.gs-Frontetltlc-lcr~nox :md Addh•atotl i~ one of the oJdcst scuk'd areat in Ont11rio. In 178" m~.Kb or the •re• •••s tc.Hied by United Empire l.oyt;Jim ,.,,bo ldt tbc. Unhed Sqlcs btca!;liC they cboo:e to f•ee INirdt.hiJM and lhr uftkftO•u to rrtain tbeiT qy o( life. T'hc:w: I"'09k tbi'OIIIJ}I oo.Metion. tan• and bard wort scttkd the area a.ct ~ to tJ.Iild tmlt l:w:c:ule Ue ution ot C.udl. fkauc of tllcil ftiall. Llto.ah thcu- laard won. aM ••toDJb tbc: ...,k atd f.aitb of Olkt IJWP' acrosi CMI!ds tk ~I fabr~ of o.t mdoa Wti ctCtlc4. h b bec-.rbk oltk Stn)q bdiot(s 3Mf b;anJ wort or our forrfatl\cr;, tll<tt we ba~ suc:h a Jrdl cwouy todoty. w~ ~~ n01 llflttbcist statt .. as -some COtllnluniat ('il)jjntrla prole~~ 11:1 be. C~an:ada wu txlllt on high pri11.:irta.. nron.a hc:ritaae and rcllaloou:t bclicrs.

• u•~n You f:ll ftllOt do a good job on sucll an i•nfl(lrlll lll doounw:nl

N:'pcc.tinl the oonocpt of Can;1da whet~ whlll f<l'l Me lryill.JJ 1<J ~ ~ ehange lh~ conc:epc or Calllda in • uni!Jtcral fashion.

r.t COtUt.itfldOif

The pcrnment 11hoold slow d(lwn u.nd listtn t() rca~o,.,

bocause rra.son is th~ fu ture qf 111 ttrooa C;.n;~d:t b:•:~QIJ on a wortabk i)'!IIC!IIl lluOuiJb the broadeu pos.1ible conknsus. Tbere ill oo reoson flit' ptf)(H'Ial ttmbi,k>n.$ or nri:litrilry dead· lines in all i'-'II.IC u important as. th~ Conlltihll.)on o( 011r OOUtllt)'·

C:anuct, is C:001f1014cd or 1en prm·ineti and two temtU~OO. Tbe rodtt•l governrncrn ._hou)d 11(1( for:gel thi5 fac:t. We. bl~ OOt or l.be llllf:!ol t'OUIIlrlct "' Lbt •'OfkL Out 10 ~crsphic cxp~IISC. by dcfinkkwl. mcu· ot the ~· paru t1 Cu:adl difret Ct'QII)' wit. rapca. lO dimatC. topOt,taphy,

mouree alloel1w. and ""'*' .u.dants. Propk •• d•ffft'Cfll pliU o( ea ... ca. have wrr rala8d 4iffttee~l pobkm~ 10 recr u a rcw.lt ol tkir klcattoft ud hcti~ Ttis is u •Ski ror aay- co.anuy h a<kb ~lrcrtath und cotou.r to 1bc C•n;.diia ...,..;.;.

Pl>v.·.:u :u1d ,_pom.:lbcllty in lbc BNA Act au &i'ft":ll 10 the fcde~u l aovernmcnt nnd others nrc given to 1hc provinoc:a.. P<Vl'·ers of a nwxe &oc.l l\llhtre w«e ~cncrally grsntcd to the pro~inocs in order to hn\'f: n gqn::mmrot in twch with und in uDdcrstaOOing or the .,.ari<tUK ~o~ r~ique provioci:al ooncern~ In <Ufft~nt arcu tlCr01U thl5 vaS! country. On the other hand, Utc feder•l £1:Y''eTntnc.nl wa1 alven l'(l'WCI"'I 0\'« matte!'$ o( a "'''~' and more nat~al OOWIOCI n, This. ~)'5tem bas sctVod us rathel .. >tll ~r the )'Cil'j •• tile varlou11 ~en t~et out ln the BNA ACI '~~'Cte illtcrprctcd and utdiU!d.

The baik pt:mitc' cl C.IU41. it lU.t it is a fcdetadoe o(

pow...cu.. QCb '"th tu o-o ~ ~ loll'llcd

~ io a frdcnl IC"e • illl • wrtteUa fcdenJ ~ ~Met. 7k pnwifl(t$ aod the fcdcrd pttaec:at arc ptrt•rt

in con!eckr.niolll. Tllcr vurred coofcdentioo with '" •vcelll<'llt to ddine 1bdr roles in tJIB CIOfitlll)'. They arc pannus la Can:t~. Th.:y • re alt lntrtral al'ld impotltlat «<mpotle.nt• in ~onfcOcration . No OM purt b 11 backpott.nd or OucCt14tin,a impl)ft;H.et, 001 e~.:ry pr<Wirll:c. a lortg witb the (i:dttal ~<ern• mcn1, is .-n a~ti~ pnnnc.r • •h b fi)!Dc.t hina I() ~;ontri blll c, 1t is importtlnl 10 renli1.o thltl h .,. .. ll tbc region~ o( this Brhls.h North Anw:rit'.r Uta! C:rcfiiCd Can~Hb and not the rcder:tl •••te 111.11 created lhc JM't)\'inocll. Thh i5 imporw.nt to a s.~ron.a pa.nnetsbip. somtthif\1 .,. hlch lbc federal gcwc:mmcnt d0t:1 hOC t~«m to u.llder~t.!l ..S,,

Fodmti·J'IfO''i.nrial tdatiofts have MliTcrod creatly u.lllkt tbt: p-e;tJII to'Vnmtol,. h ~ tile frdttaJ to''C:nl:mtAl JOe$ OIU

of its • -ay With 111~br qu.tlliOD to tr.amplc the illlnati fll lhe ~ nis • eo -.y eo oa.t a putllef, and «t11..iety 1:101 a proper ttrno&pllcft JO crat~ .,. tk midst tJI tht ~ 0\('llfs puslt for COMtiualiolul d111ap. lllis i:$ • f*nl state, 11101 a u.n.it:u')' onoe. If tbe fcder11&ov«olltJCo.t COiltinucs to tty to writ.e the prU¥inocs out of con/c6cr•tioo ,.,.e could be l:cadina for a unitary state~ tbll t iJ not tbe CaiNidian. way. The PNW• lnM 1e:tli1.e this a nd they are •und.ing up for t.h~ir ri_&hll$, IMir fuhlrc, and boc:n~»ethcy nrc aoOO Cant~di~n5, for CO.!Y• da's future.

We in the Pr()SrttOJwc CCH'Illl!l'~uth·c 1•:u1v a..~e in r,no1,11r of JIIHriation ol the DNA Aet 10 Canad.l. Pitriation c:ould k done quici:J)• to j.et our documoetn ol llltionbood where it

7$68 COMMONS DEBATES March 3, 1 qsJ

Tilt> C<m~liluliQit bclong.1 wichout OOtbcring lo uoubJe any otbu country with oor f,)wn <."Q~rll$, Once. hofl)e lt shouJd be am-ended by Canadians using an amending formula acrced upon bct'l''tCn tlt.e federal ~rnmcn1 and the pf"<Winces.

One a:spoct or 0111 prese.nt feder:el :tfl";lng'COlent.s ••bi<:b 1 reel is impcNitivc to lntlintain ~~ wr comtiluliooal monatdty. Any :ett~mpt tO ;~her or downpiay dtis traditioft. which i$ ()ne ()it be main re,uoM our counuy d the btst pl011..:e •o lj~ in the world. ..-·ill onl)' WOI':icn llle division "''bieh exists. Tbe ffiO(Ia~by is tOO deeply rOOted in out cuhure and his1<1ry to be rcfllO''Cd from 001 politjcal expo."tlenee. 'J'h.cre iJ no room in Canada (or a thre:H by cunning people. or govetnmtt~t. to up!>et politiC'o~l order and remake i1 aoootding t<1 tlleir desire. I am opposed to 31.'1)' dfof'lj to rcducr: the role or tbe monarcby. I su.ppo.rt the rc•encion Q( Her Majest)' as the h1:2d or $1:Hc jn ~n11.d11..

The loyalists took prlcJc. in their IO'Ioe or God aDd the mQn!\rCh. Tllty $10011 up for wbat they believed in to protect ll w-ay of life l.hoey ehcri.1~ !Or fut ure genenutons, I am bonoured to be 3 de.soc:00.1n1 ol such a group of people. I ~ppred~te the Canad.a they su~·t to create .. I do nl)l forget oita.ke for granted thek sacrifices. I think ..-·e. O"''C tbem and oth~r piol'lcers the deoei)C;)' and respect to preserve the-uadf.. tion a nd w<~y oflire tbey bclped pt~ss on to us.

Nq :syst~m of gO't-ern.meut is pcrf«t. Mr. Spi:akcr, but I, (or myself. reel that our i)'llt~ i:l <.11:1c of tbe bc::st. 1 am proud or our !u: riuge. :lnd tradition re.sptttcd here aM 3tOu•w! the -world. Let u:s n:merobet wbcre ..--e c--.sme from .sq tb:ll we c;~n better koow '<''l.ere we :•n: goins. The govett~mcflt seems to Jt:i~ II)S.t $ight Q( this.. but the people o( Can:ada ha'-t n<)C...

I thjnk tha t with the concerns 1>f tnall)' o~r the i$iluo or women's richts and opportunitie~ f()r ..,vmc,, •·e teod to rorget the Ctl~ble and hi&hly respected st.a.ndard set over tbe years by Qur ! r:edous head of .state, Her Majcst)' Queen FJiv.tbctb tbe Se<:ond. With estimates ol $01ntwh<l!t 0\'Cr half~~ national poput;uioo bein& woll\eQ, their plaoe as equal hu•rutn bci.ngs. is oc:rt.ain)y c:~tabfisbcd in Caot~da and should be ensured for the future. There are diiYering vk•1$ put for•oud ~oooeming the need for tJ;e rights of the uobom child and r 'lo'OuJd SU$&t.1t tbat our time: would be. better .spent con.,idcr:ing all a.spccts o( this issue ..

Por the. people of :t <:()tJntry eo make tbe <:OnslitutiQn \lo'Ork they mu!il re.q"~Cet •·bac il scands fot. To commtlnd this rtllpect it must be just . fair 3nd ins1>irins oow and i.nto c.he rucure. The people must uust their sovernm<nt to lead tb<:m into tb:. t fultJrc with promises. rights and (rccdoms the- ConttitutiQn promises to uphold.

Th<: present @0\'Ctnmcm hail m:edc 1.11)(1 broten many promi.s.es In Lhis :t!llf previous Parliament$.. Jt has consistentl)' refu.scd to (lea I witb .such serious mancrt of eonotnl eo C:enadi· aos as higb interest r.n~, inflation ue,tl uocmpiQ)'ment. Tbue i.t n(l e»tnpn:hcmsh·c industria) polioC)' to help cana.diao busi· oe:;:s and illdustry plan and grow for th~ futu.re. Can;ed:e':s -StMdatd or living h:u :olippc:d and <K~r c;;onoroy has S«O better d.Jiy!i. 1'he pcc*nt £Q'I'ernment. under the Prime Minister. has had more than enough time to deal with thde mntter$.

Canadians are now being oonfront«< ••ith oonstilutioeluJ proposals put for-...-ard by this same @'OVCtnlllctlt which bie.~

d<lt'le-so liul.::. for CamedillM over t.bc yel.l.l"'$. Uo""' C<*O C~.trtad i · ans put trust and faith in such proposals room s~.~~.it a go~o· mem? The answer is they cannot. How <:tln Caoadians tes~t a 8(W\"rnrnt:nt WhKh lric.$ IC) get :e fi.J{e~gn country, f<>r whM:b (....,.fllldin 0$ h<lve long-.standing rcspoct, do its dirt)' work and then. ot the same time. blame that eouJtuy (or e~-efy Uttk thing th.ll t <:r(lps up'! Great llri c~in desc.rves bea ter cre;~unent 1h:~o Ibis , Mr. Speaker. WeQ\Io'e her thal much.

Natioolal unit y, our economy and enctt:Y .s:ci(·Sllff'tcienc;y are all suJ(et'ing bec3u~~e the gc:wcrnnt~IH will ·ooc list~n t() Cal\:ufi· :en.'l . In (.':!t:~ltd~ we buvc grl!<f; t pQtcntijat, with energy $tJVT«S,

ra•· matetiah aDd human. resouroes t.hat tiny country • ·ould Jlo:. proud to pMSCSS.. yet tbe (dlc:ral t()vernmcnt C:tnnOt dig<:$1 re., lily. Mr. $penk.er. the pceseol t<.Wernment with it3 myriad of ivory·tQ-..·er. sbon·gain progran~ is h3roting Ca0:1.dn. a t()untry ~bout v.·biel1 l fed very .uron.J1)'·

The 8'1\·crnnee.nt $.b()uld lis:tcn I() reul!on on tbc ~OI'i$ litutional issue aDd patriate the BNA Act to C.anada. ·with a n aece.ptable amcndi.n.g fon:nula. with d1e pN"Wiru.'l.'S in Canada I() ena\e 2 mendmenl.\ in C•nad:e. this would be the bc:tter to.)UNC f\V

Canadia:ns. Pauial.ion could be aebiC\·ed quickly a nd the ~0\'· ernment oould $C-l oo wltl• the r~) Issue~ facins Caetadi:tnt. pr(Widiug k :u.kflbi.p. $UJIPI)Tl ;end dircc•fon w th;u ind\L'S-lt)' and business can plan for tbe (uture.

The prc:~ent gO"I-ernmCJ~t has been nipping away a t t.he C.anada we know ttild love fo.- some tllnc t'IO'W. Linle chaoll\'S bc:rc: und little- cl!.~flge• there gr:ulu.1Jiy ()ver time ' re blljng their toll. I, alon:g .,,dill many other Canadiaos. dQ not lil:e. what I am secing and I am concerned for the future of o11r ~TIIJ)'·

Mr. Sp.:akcr, rony I qJI il tell o'Qock'!

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PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

(Englis.\0 A enotion to adjQurn the: i lcJU$C unelcr St.;ndcng Ot dcl 'I(J

dl:ccned t<.t lt.Oivc been ~'Cd.

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1-ioll. Si•~·llir Stcn:DS O'ork~Pc~): Mr . .'SJto..~kef. my OOm• mcrus tonight oenli"C on a quc:~tion a rtd aMwct, ~:; roeordcd iB HOJrSard of Febtuary 2-1 at page 7606, between myself a nd lhe Minister ol f'i n:.e;n1:c (Mr. MlltE:nil..:n) . At tl•at tiene I 'fl~,; que:>lioni:n3 the Mini$•<:r of Finan.;c cooccrni.n.JJ. wmc stutemcnu th:u 11ppcarcd to be quite misl<:flding i.n his addt~s IQ 3 lun<:lw:<m meeting uf the C:en:edi:tn Club of Montreal 00 February ZJ.

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